??? Native tribes on the Iranian Plateau and in Kurdistan NEVER spoke Semitic languages. Sumerians came from an area where Semitic languages are and never have been spoken.
Old dated Kurgan theory from the 50s is pretty much dead. We live in the year 2013 and not in 1950, lol. Even Maciamo’s R1b theory destroys Kurgan theory. According to the Kurgan theory proto-Indo-Europeans came from North Europe. But that’s impossible because native haplogroups of that area are hg. N1c and I.
show me evidence their dead because what i have seen almost every expert agree's. and R1a and R1b found in these cultures totally backs up those very intelligent theory's of the 1950's. They had bones and art just like we do just a little more and they where just as smart. Actulely according to the krugen theory Indo europeans started around eastern Ukraine and central russia possibly the caucus because of maykop 6,000 year old kurgen burail but their was also a 6,000 year old kurgen found in southeastern poland(near Ukraine). The kurgen burail spread with Indo European languages.
Y DNA N1c came to northeast europe with urlaic languages and Kunda culture 8,000ybp Y DNA N is a mongloid haplogroup. y DNA I is native to europe.
Maciamo’s theory that Indo-European R1b came from the Iranian Plateau DESTROYS the Kurgan theory.
no it does not he clearly shows R1b L51 later R1b L11 migrating from southern Russia and Ukriane to western Europe and R1b M73 migrating from central russia to central asia with Indo iranien languages. He does have some pre Indo European R1b.
Also the theory that Maykop Culture from West Asia, Indo-Europized the Yamna Horizon folks destroys the Kurgan theory.
R1b theory of Maciamo & Maykop Culture is in favor of the ANATOLIAN Model!
Actulley not really the reason why people think maykop was indo european is because they had a kurgen burail, but like i said before a 6,000 year old kurgen was also found in southeast poland. So it is hard to say if it was Ukrainiane and russia whowhere the first Indo European speakers or north caucus people they where probably orignalley from west asia but may have gooten their indo european side from niflunce by urkianen and russians.
Caucus is not Anatolia. There is no strong evidence of Indo European r1a and R1b branches spreading from Anatolia and the first Indo European people in Anatolia where the Hittites in 1,800bc. Maykop seems to have a west asian origi besides maybe the indo european parts that does not mean Anatolia. that is like saying because Germanic languages where in northern Germany 4,000ybp that the German language originated in France.
If Maciamo’s theory about R1b is right then you like it or not proto-Indo-Europeans possessed mostly of West Asian aDNA component. Proto-Indo-Europeans were not Northeast Europeans at all. NorthEast European foragers were actually Mongoloid people.
wait a second where is the evidence of a west asian component and indo european languages. No Indo European languages spread from west asia except maybe proto Indo European. Indo Iranien spread with R1a1a1b2 from Yamna- Sintashta culture etc. Balto Slavic spread with R1a1a1b1 with Yamna-Corded ware culture. Germanic Italo Celtic spread from Russia Unknown culture- conquering Bell Beaker and forming into Nordic Bronze age culture for Germanic and Unetice culture for Itao Celtic.
There is a sign of a north euro aust. DNA component in indo iranien speaking ethnic groups that people in the same area who dont speak indo iranien dont have. Also remains from very very early Indo Iranians show they are European and had mainly light hair and eyes and closest relatives are north east Europeans(that does not mean the language originated there they may have been conquered by earlier Indo Europeans from Russia). there is no west asian connection with European Indo European languges. Once again they most likely spread more north euro aust dna because aust. DNA from neloithic european farmers had over 59% med and less than 29% north euro while modern europeans in the same area have usuelly over 50% north euro. aust. DNA from european hunter gathers in the nelothic age had over 71% north euro which could just mean eventulley hunter gathers became the dominte group genetically.
but sardine people who have been isolated genetically on that island for over 5,000 years have 71% med and modern Iberian have over 50% they faced indo european invasions only 2,700-2,500ybp and non indo european basque have 59%.
also from 6,000 and 5,000 year old indo european yamna culture reamins in southern russia almost all had brown eyes they also had pale skin same genes as modern Europeans. theyw here conquered by Uralic cultures 5,000-4,000ybp non Slavic Uralic ethnic groups in that area of Russia have almost only brown eyes unlike Slavic Russians so they most likely mainly decend from yamna culture. also they have some of the highest amount of north euro in Europe at over 70% so Yamna had at least or more.
only R1b M173 on maciamo's map has to do with Indo Iranians and it obliviously shows it spreading from russia
also he shows in his R1a map indo iranien r1a Z93 taking the same route.
He shows R1b M343 originated in iran 18,000 years ago well before Indo european languages. honestly i think proto proto indo european was spoken by caucus or people in Armenia 7,000-8,000ybp possibly sumerians spoke a related language or they spoke another non afro Asiatic lanuage. with high amounts of r1b m269. maciamos maps explain so much which i have been trying to shape in my head it helps alot.
