It's not like "some people don't like to believe these things" (*boohoo* *sob sob*), the problem here is that these things are only in your self-hating brains, and you have been pathetically trying to establish some sort of very far-fetched connection based on Neolithic ancestral genetic components and phenotypes since the first post with cherry-picked pictures to try to confirm your crackpot theory about Proto-IE peoples.
Self-hatred is better than racism, isn't it? I have never denied that the majority of Iranians have dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermediate skin tone, but you clearly don't believe the same thing about Italians and for this reason you started to play with images, dark ones from Iran and light ones from Italy!
I may agree with your general point but I disagree that it's only (or mainly) a matter of pigmentation. It is Moja insisting on the importance of pigmentation. Although that is a factor too, I maintain that a significant majority of times it is easy to tell apart an Iranian from a Southern Europe thanks to facial traits alone. As simple as that, there's nothing racist in that. If anything it is racist to state the opposite IMHO.
So what? The dude below is from my region in Italy. He's not the average look of course, but good luck to find some 100% Ethnic Iranian like him..
Beside, that Iranian player's would be more at home in say Georgia or Ossetia than Europe and the differences between Italians and Iranians in phenotype are abyssal, despite Italians are for the majority brunette .
I actually played in your game about the importance of pigmentation, this is just your imagination that there is a big difference between Iranians and Italians, the famous Italian actress Monica Bellucci played as an Iranian woman in a movie and now the majority Iranians think she is an Iranian who lives in Italy. In some Iranian websites she has been compared to some Iranian actresses to prove this thing!
So what.
Can't you understand that Iran and Italy are very distant genetically as any PCA chart or autosomal study will tell you.I actually played in your game about the importance of pigmentation, this is just your imagination that there is a big difference between Iranians and Italians, the famous Italian actress Monica Bellucci played as an Iranian woman in a movie and now the majority Iranians think she is an Iranian who lives in Italy. In some Iranian websites she has been compared to some Iranian actresses to prove this thing!
Cipollini might belong to Napoléon branch of e1b1b1
there is a tester person with surname Cipollini under napoleon branch or extremely close to it
Mario Cipollini - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
no,
you are correct just mention it as an option he could be e1b1b1
but he could belong to any other y haplogroup
I didn't knew it was that common surname there
anyway i still agree with a statement
that you wouldn't find an iranian who look like him
i understand
My "Like" for this post was in error.
EEF:What about maps for EEF and WHG?
Case Closed.
EEF:
big differences between Italy and Iran?!
