Iosif Lazaridis: Proto-Indo-Europeans had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermediate skin tone
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Wow. This has turned into an Apricity thread. 
Ok, let's compare the crowded images.
Roma fans at the Stadio Olimpico: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ASRomaOlimpico.jpg
Rome current Temperature: 14°C
Esteghlal F.C. fans at the Azadi Stadium, Tehran:
Tehran current Temperature: -3°C
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HereToLearn
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Like in Kabul, in neighboring Afghanistan. Interesting and relevant information.
Taremi was born in Bushehr, the most southern city in Iran, but what is the difference between him and Italian players in Inter Milan? https://cms-sportsdunia-prod.s3.ap-...nt-image/football-prediction/inter milan.jpeg
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Do you really mean between Middle-Eastern looking Taremi and fully European-looking Acerbi, Di Marco, Barella and Bastoni? Okay bro... Now I know for sure you are not being serious
I'm outta here, I've had fun though thanks.Do you see any difference?! Compare them with the more famous Iranian players, like Voria Ghafouri:Do you really mean between Middle-Eastern looking Taremi and fully European-looking Acerbi, Di Marco, Barella and Bastoni? Okay bro... Now I know for sure you are not being serious
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Anyway this is what genetic studies say: Genetic history of Italy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Italy
"In addition to the pattern described in the main text, the SARD sample seemed to have played a major role as source of admixture for most of the examined populations, especially Italian ones, rather than as recipient of migratory processes. In fact, the most significant f3 scores for trios including SARD indicated peninsular Italians as plausible results of admixture between SARD and populations from Iran, Caucasus and Russia."
"In addition to the pattern described in the main text, the SARD sample seemed to have played a major role as source of admixture for most of the examined populations, especially Italian ones, rather than as recipient of migratory processes. In fact, the most significant f3 scores for trios including SARD indicated peninsular Italians as plausible results of admixture between SARD and populations from Iran, Caucasus and Russia."
Those are certainly Iranians but the main point is that a large number of Italians have also Iranian ancestry and there is not a big diiference between the majority of Iranians and Italians. A minority of blonde, blue eyed people in Italy and Iran can't change this fact.Iranians look like what they are, Middle Easterners. An Iranian who is ashamed of this is a self-hater.
Iranians from northwestern Iran
You are confusing modern Iranian ethnicity with an ancestral component based on Neolithic samples. It is like saying someone who has Steppe-ancestry comes from Russia or Ukraine, or someone who has EEF comes from Turkey.
As any decent PCA shows Italians and Iranians are far apart.
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So what? The dude below is from my region in Italy. He's not the average look of course, but good luck to find some 100% Ethnic Iranian like him..
Beside, that Iranian player's would be more at home in say Georgia or Ossetia than Europe and the differences between Italians and Iranians in phenotype are abyssal, despite Italians are for the majority brunette .
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So why Italian websites talk about similarities between Itanians and Iranians in phenotype? For example about Iranian player Sardar Azmoun and Italian actor Ricky Memphis:
So what? The dude below is from my region in Italy. He's not the average look of course, but good luck to find some 100% Ethnic Iranian like him..
Beside, that Iranian player's would be more at home in say Georgia or Ossetia than Europe and the differences between Italians and Iranians in phenotype are abyssal, despite Italians are for the majority brunette .
Retroscena Azmoun, conosce Ricky Memphis: "Ci assomigliamo"
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Azmoun e il meme virale con Ricky Memphis: “È vero ci assomigliamo, lui è famosissimo in Iran”
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The resemblance between these two is more apparent than real and based on the hair style.So why Italian websites talk about similarities between Itanians and Iranians in phenotype? For example about Iranian player Sardar Azmoun and Italian actor Ricky Memphis:
Retroscena Azmoun, conosce Ricky Memphis: "Ci assomigliamo"
Il neo acquisto giallorosso stupisce tutti e conferma la somiglianza con il noto attore romano
Azmoun e il meme virale con Ricky Memphis: “È vero ci assomigliamo, lui è famosissimo in Iran”
L’ammissione del calciatore tra le battute degli amici. La fiction “Distretto di Polizia” è stato un successo internazionale arrivato fino a Teheran. Sul web s…
Calciatori, somiglianze clamorose: Gattuso-Crowe, Migliaccio-Vin Diesel, Felipe-Rovazzi
Le somiglianze più eclatanti tra calciatori e personaggi del cinema o protagonisti di altri sport
HereToLearn
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What's your obsession with us dude? Please leave us alone and go channel your self-hate on some other Southern Euro country, or even better go to The Apricity where you belong
Pax Augusta
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Woman is Italian, man is likely Iranian (but could also be Turkish).
The fact that there are some Italians who can pass for Iranian and vice versa means nothing. It certainly does not prove that they are the same people. This is untenable on a genetic level, cultural level and everything else. Then if you like to think you are Italian and that Iran and Italy are the same thing, good luck. I guess you don't know Italians very well.
Since this conversation has really become an Apricity thread as Vallicanus says, could we please get back on topic?
This thread is about Proto-Indo-Europeans who had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermediate skin tone and their CHG ancestry, I just said that other than Iran and some other Asian countries, this ancestry also exists in Greece and Italy in the south of Europe but it seems some people didn't like to believe these things, whether about phenotype/ancestry of Proto-Indo-Europeans or about the common genetic origin of some Iranians and Italians.