Immigration What should Europeans do with illegal immigrants?

[bicicleur 2]

Well, I see people.

well you would let anybody in
you'd even grant citizenship to a dog with a nice hat

 

[bicicleur 2]

Here is another example of bad Muslim Arabs helping refugees more than Europeans:

Egyptian billionaire is buying an island to settle and help refugees. Imagine this guys! Greedy rich Arab is sharing his wealth, with poor desperate refugees! You wouldn't predict this in a million years!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-island-for-refugees_55f48e37e4b077ca094f5abc

Egyptian telecommunications magnate Naguib Sawiris is providing new details about his plan to buy an island shelter for hundreds of thousands of refugees trying to reach Europe.">

he is a Coptic Orthodox Christian

sorry, you are trying so hard to find a good muslim
and you don't find one?

 

[LeBrok]

he is a Coptic Orthodox Christian

sorry, you are trying so hard to find

How about good Arab Christian? No good words about him either from you?

a good muslim
and you don't find one?

So you're sure there is no good Muslim in this world?

 

[LeBrok]

well you would let anybody in
you'd even grant citizenship to a dog with a nice hat

Again it speaks tones about your humanity.

 

[bicicleur 2]

How about good Arab Christian? No good words about him either from you?

So you're sure there is no good Muslim in this world?

I'm sure there are good muslims, just you have a hard time finding them.

Please stop your bias.

I don't need your lessons.

 

[bicicleur 2]

Again it speaks tones about your humanity.

there is a difference between humanity and naivity

and stop insulting me

it is clear that you are out of arguments

 

[epoch]

Wow. Germany seems to be panicking

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachric...and-bricht-aus-us-allianz-gegen-russland-aus/

 

[LeBrok]

it is clear that you are out of arguments

Argument to your virtual reality or whatever this is?

well you would let anybody in
you'd even grant citizenship to a dog with a nice hat

 

[LeBrok]

Wow. Germany seems to be panicking

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachric...and-bricht-aus-us-allianz-gegen-russland-aus/

I can see finally some initiative of EU, instead of hiding behind US shield all the time.

 

[Yetos]

Here is another example of bad Muslim Arabs helping refugees more than Europeans:

Egyptian billionaire is buying an island to settle and help refugees. Imagine this guys! Greedy rich Arab is sharing his wealth, with poor desperate refugees! You wouldn't predict this in a million years!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-island-for-refugees_55f48e37e4b077ca094f5abc

Egyptian telecommunications magnate Naguib Sawiris is providing new details about his plan to buy an island shelter for hundreds of thousands of refugees trying to reach Europe.">

Lebrok he is Egyptian Koptic church
and he wants to buy Rhodos island
he was owner of Wind telecoms (ex telestet)
and he wants to make an Ellis island full of hotels and swimming pools etc,
come on

 

[julia90]

I'm guessing that you are not aware of Spanish program granting permanent residence to Spanish speaking South Americans, who want to emigrate to Spain and live in these empty villages. As you see these villages are being given to none Europeans already. Your stand reminds me a story about a gardener's dog. It never had use for anything from the garden but didn't let anyone else using it either. You just guard, you guard the empty villages and empty houses, just for the sake of guarding, sake of your duty, and sake of owning something even things useless for you.

There are many other reasons to help these immigrants to settle in Europe. Firstly from being human and helping human beings in times of great need. Are you vaguely familiar with feeling of compassion? Secondly, they will benefit all Europe as workers and customers. Thirdly, many if not most of them, need only a shelter for few years till they can go back to their countries. And who knows, in few hundreds of years, when Ice Age start covering Europe with Ice again, Europeans will look for land south to resettle. Well, Near East will say, screw you now for your great help when we need it. Freeze to death Europeans.

they wont ever go back

the question is what and if we have resources for them..and how many can we decently host with our resources

 

[LeBrok]

Lebrok he is Egyptian Koptic church
and he wants to buy Rhodos island
he was owner of Wind telecoms (ex telestet)
and he wants to make an Ellis island full of hotels and swimming pools etc,
come on

So you object to making empty uninhabited island a great place to live for people who lost their country? This won't cost Geeks or you personally anything, and actually it will financially benefit Greeks from selling the island and business taxes Greece would collect every year from enterprises employing these migrants in the future.
So why are you against it?

 

[LeBrok]

they wont ever go back

What a bold statement, Julia! Put yourself in their situation. If something bad happens to Italy, and you have to escape with your life and Bosnia or Canada would accepted you as refugee. Would you say that you will never go back to Italy, when finally peace returned?

the question is what and if we have resources for them..and how many can we decently host with our resources

There is 750 million Europeans with 17 trillion GDP, and you say they never find resources for it? Canada of 35 million people finds resources every year for 300 thousand people.
There is about 10 million migrants living in Germany. It means Germany found resources for that many, Germany alone. Not mentioning that they work their and pay taxes and benefit Germany. Look and after few decades of intense immigration, Germany is the strongest country in Europe in many ways!

 

[Yetos]

So you object to making empty uninhabited island a great place to live for people who lost their country? This won't cost Geeks or you personally anything, and actually it will financially benefit Greeks from selling the island and business taxes Greece would collect every year from enterprises employing these migrants in the future.
So why are you against it?

he does not want to buy an empty island
he wants to buy 175 000 m2 at rhodos island, to make a kind of 'Ellis island' and take money to work it from EU and UN amnesty international,
and after that to turn it to big private business
his plan is to build huge hotels under the cover of aid immigration,
or 738 000 of the NATO base at Crete

Συγκεκριμένα το 2010 είχε δείξει ενδιαφέρον για την έκταση 175 στρεμμάτων στον Δήμο Αφάντου στην Ρόδο καθώς και για την έκταση 738 στρεμμάτων στην πρώην αμερικανική βάση στις Γούρνες στην Κρήτη.

http://news247.gr/eidiseis/weekend-...llhniko-nhsi-gia-toys-metanastes.3657273.html

the man is the master of mobile telecoms at N Korea
as you see it is not a new story but 6 years old,
starting from 2009 and officially at 2010,
he offered to buy Rhodos island to make Hotels and Touristic business in an area that locals decide to stay at quality-agrotourism with no big Hotels, but small rent rooms
now he returns to buy again the same in the name of aid immigrants,

 

[Tomenable]

Some statistical figures: http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

Can you see this - 72% of all refugees are adult males. How is this possible ?!

How many women and children do you see in this photo? I can see 1 woman and 1 child:

So these lazy COWARDS have abandoned their families and are now coming to Europe.

Meanwhile women have to fight ISIS (and you know what happens if they get captured):

Maybe we should let in only women and children, and send all these pathethic cowards back ?!

 

[Yetos]

Some statistical figures: http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

Can you see this - 72% of all refugees are adult males. How is this possible ?!

How many women and children do you see in this photo? I can see 1 woman and 1 child:

Syrrians and Kurds travel with their families

Pakistanis and Afganis males only,
when they get citizenship they travel back and buy a woman

 

[bicicleur 2]

Some statistical figures: http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

Can you see this - 72% of all refugees are adult males. How is this possible ?!

So these lazy COWARDS have abandoned their families and are now coming to Europe.

Meanwhile women have to fight ISIS (and you know what happens if they get captured):

Maybe we should let in only women and children, and send all these pathethic cowards back ?!

of those who arrive in Brussels +/- 50 % are young males from Baghdad, which is not in the war zone
they all tell a similar story as if they were told so by 1 person / 1 organisation
these people are now all put in a temporary camp untill it is possible to check their story
what this story is exactly has not been communicated

and yes, this whole refugee story in Europe, it is as if some people want to buy a clean conscience by accepting these refugees and forget about all the misery that is still going in the war itself
it would be better to help these brave people who are trying to defend their homes

 

[LeBrok]

Some statistical figures: http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

Can you see this - 72% of all refugees are adult males. How is this possible ?!

How many women and children do you see in this photo? I can see 1 woman and 1 child:

So these lazy COWARDS have abandoned their families and are now coming to Europe.

Meanwhile women have to fight ISIS (and you know what happens if they get captured):

Maybe we should let in only women and children, and send all these pathethic cowards back ?!

Are you talking about Syrian men and Kurdish women fighters? According to you they should come together?

If you had wife and kids in the Turkish camp, and wanted to immigrate to Europe, wouldn't you leave them at camp and go by yourself to secure their future? Or you would take them onto dangerous trip where people are dying on boats and in abandoned vans?

 

[Tomenable]

^ Real Syrian refugees actually don't want to "secure their future in Europe", but to be able to return to Syria:

They want the end of war, and they want to rebuild their country. Just listen to what this Syrian Girl has to say:

According to what she says, Europe is taking in much more Non-Syrian immigrants than real Syrian refugees:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHFnvFbThDE

 

[LeBrok]

^ Real Syrian refugees actually don't want to "secure their future in Europe", but to be able to return to Syria:

They want the end of war, and they want to rebuild their country. Just listen to what this Syrian Girl has to say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHFnvFbThDE

Young woman speaks for all Syrian refugees? What if this war goes on for 5-10 years, do you want here to stay in tent in Turkey for that long?