Immigration What should Europeans do with illegal immigrants?

[bicicleur 2]

what kind of alternative you have in mind?

I'm not an expert on that matter, some people should no better.
And the situation has not become easier since 2012.
But I ask myself would Syria realy be better without Assad?
Is Lybia better without Khadafi, is Iraq better without Saddam now?
And why not give the Kurds a chance?

 

[Yetos]

Russia just finished building a new military airport in Syria. Russians will send their troops to support Assad. I wonder what is Putin's true intention? 100 dollar barrel of oil? All we need is bigger mess in Near East.

gush

man
one big airstrike before many years was enough to make Kantafi piss his pants from fear,
and yes Kantafi had some criminality, but what happens now?
(I repeat, I do not believe that Kantafi was a saint)

time of 'desert storm' and 'desert fox' what prices had oil? over 150 $ per barrel reaching 170$
was there bigger prize ever until today?
you want us to believe that Arab spring drop the prices?
Russia is the bad guy only? then think Bush times, just raise 50$ the barrel and you have the money to invade China,
(the above does mean that Sadam was a saint)

anf finally
When 'allies' invade IRAQ we where told that will find Toxic gas production able to kill half planet, nuclear heads, Scud and other missiles that could strike UK, etc etc
the known media policy that made Iraq and Sandam a monster,
and now again Russia is the monster,
I do not say that Russia is the good guy or Sadam was a saint,
But don't you think that the rest of the world, knows what is going on?
do you want us to believe that because Russia supports Assand and the Maronites oil price will raise?
and forget that oil reached 150$ when USA attacked Sadam?

come on, we all live in the same planet,

 

[Yetos]

HOW A COUNTRY CAN CHANGE AT FEW DECADES,

the bellow photo is from Hungary
village of Μπελογιαννη

the ones who do not know, there is the typical Wiki link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beloiannisz

and a historical photo Album

http://atexnos.gr/φωτογραφικό-αφιέρωμα-στο-χωριό-μπελ/#prettyPhoto

it was the time after WW2 and Greek civil war, distribution of refugees
Greeks who lived there until late 70's early 80's say the best words, and 1/4 of them remained as locals

a photo from today

I really, can not understand,
and I can not blaim someone yet, except the traffickers, the war industries, and 'big powers' (as prime minister of Bulgaria said) for that mess,
the change on how people think different, at just one generation, is amazing!!!!!!

 

[Tomenable]

Potential citizens are coming towards Liberland, and may help in future development of this young state:

https://liberland.org/en/about/

Development plan for Liberland (now dreams can come true with help of refugees!):

Liberland President granting citizenship (now he will have a lot of new potential citizens!):

 

[Tomenable]

Potential citizens are coming towards Liberland, and may help in future development of this young state:

https://liberland.org/en/about/

Development plan for Liberland (now dreams can come true with help of refugees!):

Liberland President granting citizenship (now he will have a lot of new potential citizens!):

 

[Tomenable]

Merkel was "feeding too many pigeons", it seems, and is now changing her mind:

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...l-who-cried-before-Merkel-gets-residency.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4bvFohf8Jk#t=39

[video=youtube;YDB6ESca3EM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=6&v=YDB6ESca3EM[/video]

http://www.rouming.cz/upload/dont_feed_the_pigeons.jpg

 

[bicicleur 2]

there are some reports about the refugee camp in Giessen, Germany
there are ethnic based gangs operating in the camp, they are very racist
there are rapes and forced prostitution inside the camp
the 1st report dates 18 august
but they want to keep the report secret, it would dammage the image of the peaceful refugee
psychiatrists claim this behaviour is normal in large camps

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buiten...lredactie&utm_medium=hootsuite&utm_source=hln

 

[Kardu]

Why would a Georgian care about the breakdown of European identity?

Anyone who has ever paid any attention to LeBrok's posts knows he's not a Marxist.

People who go around talking about "cultural Marxists" are usually Europeans of the racist, Nordicist variety.

If the shoe fits, have the courage to wear it.

Seems you yourself are a latent Nordicist stating that

There are Marxists and there are Cultural Marxists

If you have doubts about my background, in 2 weeks I'll be in NY and I can invite you for a coffee

 

[Tomenable]

Mayor of Duisburg: "I'd like to have twice more Syrians here, if I could give away a few Eastern Europeans for it." :

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/3lb2ie/mayor_of_duisburg_id_like_to_have_twice_more/

http://www.derwesten.de/politik/meh...-kritik-an-duisburger-ob-link-id11101801.html

:clap:

 

[Yetos]

FINALLY

I decide to vote the other solution,


why?
cause I agree with what the prime minister of Bulgaria said,
and I think is the correct solution,
(and this is not a hatred post my 'friend')

AFGANISTAN, First attack by USSR, then CIA create Taliban, Then USA went, WHAT EUROPE HAS TO DO WITH?
IRAQ, a loser USA president who believe that he could clean the world, and he is better than his father, enters tottaly and collapse every system existed.
SYRIA the true war is among Russia (Assant) and USA (Daesh) WHAT EUROPE HAS TO DO WITH?

I believe the solution is to gather all immigrants
AND SEND THEM TO USA AND RUSSIA,
LET THE ONES WHO CREATE THE MESS, CLEAN WHAT LEFT BEHIND, AND TAKE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES FOR WHAT IS GOING ON NOW,

so bring boats and trains and send them to RUssia and USA,
EU has nothing to do, except the stupidity that followed g Bush at Iraq,

EUROPE MUST FORCE USA AND RUSSIA TO TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THEIR ACTIONS

 

[LeBrok]

FINALLY

I decide to vote the other solution,


why?
cause I agree with what the prime minister of Bulgaria said,
and I think is the correct solution,
(and this is not a hatred post my 'friend')

AFGANISTAN, First attack by USSR, then CIA create Taliban, Then USA went, WHAT EUROPE HAS TO DO WITH?
IRAQ, a loser USA president who believe that he could clean the world, and he is better than his father, enters tottaly and collapse every system existed.
SYRIA the true war is among Russia (Assant) and USA (Daesh) WHAT EUROPE HAS TO DO WITH?

I believe the solution is to gather all immigrants
AND SEND THEM TO USA AND RUSSIA,
LET THE ONES WHO CREATE THE MESS, CLEAN WHAT LEFT BEHIND, AND TAKE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES FOR WHAT IS GOING ON NOW,

so bring boats and trains and send them to RUssia and USA,
EU has nothing to do, except the stupidity that followed g Bush at Iraq,

EUROPE MUST FORCE USA AND RUSSIA TO TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THEIR ACTIONS

I think Greeks let the unregistered refugees to flood the Europe on purpose. They did it to punish Germany for Greece financial troubles.

 

[Boreas]

EU has nothing to do

İf it is your real feelings, what a shame

 

[bicicleur 2]

Belgium is going to send back Iraqi 'refugees' who don't live in the war zone
50 % of the refugees that arrived in Brussels lately are such Iraqis
they claim their lives are in danger, they need asylum and also they need to be reunified with their family
the UN spokeswoman defends them, alltough as it appears now their stories are phony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AIbhqYtipU

https://youtu.be/7AIbhqYtipU

 

[LABERIA]

I think Greeks let the unregistered refugees to flood the Europe on purpose. They did it to punish Germany for Greece financial troubles.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...endum-as-no-agreement-with-creditors-in-sight

by Nikos Chrysoloras
2:20 PM CET
March 8, 2015
Greece may call new elections or hold a referendum if European finance ministers reject the government’s reform proposals, Varoufakis told Corriere della Sera. A referendum would only be held if negotiations with creditors fail, spokesman Gabriel Sakellaridis said by telephone.


http://www.businessinsider.com/panos-kammenos-threatens-to-flood-europe-with-migrants-2015-3
Greece's defence minister Panos Kammenos has threatened to "flood Europe with migrants", potentially including Syrian jihadists, if Europe fails to find a solution to the Greek debt crisis.
As reported by the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, he said that: "If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadis of the Islamic State too."


http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...droht-europa-mit-fluechtlingen-a-1022450.html

 

[LABERIA]

enikos.gr - Politics: Greek FM Kotzias: If Greece collapses, Europe will be flooded with migrants, jihadists
Greek foreign minister Nikos Kotzias warned that a financial collapse in Greece will bring millions of new migrants and thousands of jihadists in Europe.
Kotzias was speaking with reporters during a bereak in an informal EU foreign ministers' council in Riga, Latvia.
"Western Balkans are not stabilized, and then we have Ukraine, Syria, Iraq and northern Africa. This is a sickle," Kotzias said.

Greek Minister Threatens Europe With Flood Of Jihadists And Immigrants If Greece Fails | Zero Hedge

Nikos Kotzias, who showed how to bluff like the best of them, when he threatened that "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists, if you take out Greece" the minister said on before EU foreign ministers meeting in Riga.

 

[Yetos]

I think Greeks let the unregistered refugees to flood the Europe on purpose. They did it to punish Germany for Greece financial troubles.

No Greece of 9 000 000 can not hold 2-3 000 000 immigrants for the shake or rest EU,
Let rest EU take its responsibilities and send these people to USA and RUSSIA,

BESIDES LOOK CAREFULLY

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THEY DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN GREECE,
THEY WANT TO GO TO EUROPA

sorry, their will is stronger than borders

and just toi see at spring, when outside Hungary will be another Hungary (POPULATION EQUAL) made by Immigrants,
We are humans, we can not slain them, neither make amssacres for the shake of non European powers,

LET THE CHEERLEADERS OF USA AND RUSSIA TAKE THE WEIGHT OF WHAT THEY CREATE


as it seems EU is still weak, so weak that can not force USA and Russia, to take the result of their done,
so weak that even Arabian countries and Turkey seem stronger, in this case.


PS

are you ok man?
how to hold them?
we do not shoot them when they come, YOU WANT US TO SHOOT THEM WHEN THEY EXIT?
I belive you are a smarter man, but seems you are brainwashed by stupid propaganda,
IS THERE ANY STATE THAT SHOOITS OR HOLD ILLEGALS FROM LEAVING?
OR YOU BELIEVE THAT GREECE OF CRISIS IS THE PARADISE FOR 2 MILLIONS NEW IMMIGRANTS?

PS2
Indeed some of your posts show peculiar mentality, and brainwash
I hope you understand the behind, of the drama, and not the propaganda of some, who not even invite one just for humanitarian reasons,

 

[Yetos]

enikos.gr - Politics: Greek FM Kotzias: If Greece collapses, Europe will be flooded with migrants, jihadists
Greek foreign minister Nikos Kotzias warned that a financial collapse in Greece will bring millions of new migrants and thousands of jihadists in Europe.
Kotzias was speaking with reporters during a bereak in an informal EU foreign ministers' council in Riga, Latvia.
"Western Balkans are not stabilized, and then we have Ukraine, Syria, Iraq and northern Africa. This is a sickle," Kotzias said.

Greek Minister Threatens Europe With Flood Of Jihadists And Immigrants If Greece Fails | Zero Hedge

Nikos Kotzias, who showed how to bluff like the best of them, when he threatened that "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists, if you take out Greece" the minister said on before EU foreign ministers meeting in Riga.

True and not only him, even the vice president of SYRIZA/ANEΛ P. Kamenos said that.
we can not hold the millions of immigrants,
NEITHER WE CAN BE THE ELLIS ISLAND OF EUROPE,
AS IN THE VIDEO ABOVE THESE PEOPLE COME TO GO TO EUROPA, NOT TO STAY IN GREECE,

IF FRONTEX, EU, and UN do not Help, we can not feed these numbers, when same time Shauble Put the sword of Damocles upon our head for counting economics

BESIDES, WE DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A JIHADIST POWER LIKE ALBANIA OR KOSSOVA.
Besides and since
ALBANIANS AND KOSSOVARS ARE GOOD PEOPLE, WHY YOU DO NOT INVITE SOME IMMIGRANTS TO STAY WITH YOU?
TO HELP GERMANY, FROM THE BAD GREEKS?
WHY?

There is nothing more simple than that,we are in crisis as Schauble and IMF told, we can feed our shelves, how come to feed the hundrends of foreigners?
and since as Pirro claim USA does always good, and Albanians are good people,
come on invide some 20-30 000 and give them jobs and hope and peace,

DO NOT ASK FROM OTHERS TO DO, WHAT YOU DID NOT,
and you should be ashamed, cause your hate for Greeks guide you to post that, with an evil purpose to hide the truth,
which is that Greeks can not feed such numbers at the times of economical crisis

PS
are you promoted? from the Albanian embassy at Athens, I learn now you work for Rama goverment at Tirana, Is it true girl?

 

[Yetos]

İf it is your real feelings, what a shame

the same is in USA and RUSSIA, not me,
I am not the police of the world,
USA AND RUSSIA WANTS TO PLAY THAT ROLLE
so they destroy the middle East and North Africa, they must accept the results of their done
Neither Greece, Neither EU invade Afganistan,


SAME IS THIS

Aylan Kurdi from Kombanie Syrria,

Hanan Awad from Syrria,

and I should be ashamed?

I AM TIRED OF USA AND RUSSIA GAMES,
AND SEEMS EU IS NOT THE EU OF PAST,
BUT A WEAK EU WITH NO WILL,
with just a possibility that Sadam had chemical gas weapon EU entered Iraq,
and today when humanity is knocking the doors of EU
EU is not attempting to stop the war, BUT FIGHTS WITH CHAMICALS THE POOR IMMIGRANTS

Boreas, I am Proud, I do not feel shame for the actions of others who should be shamed, but hide behind words like Globalization, DemoKracy and Spring


PS
Aren't you ashamed for the support that Erdogan gave to DAESH?
or you feel proud cause he helped Islam's Holy saints against Maronites and Yezidi non Muslim?

 

[Yetos]

LEBANON AND BEIRUT

for those who still hide behind the fingers,
search how the population changed at Lebanon and Beirut at 20th century,
same is happening today at Syrria,
the few non Muslim populations that resist 1400 years,
are about to be genocided and disband with the help of USA and Russian politicks for the shake of what? Arab Spring?
I just hope for a miracle,
to appear a Sitting Bull at the middle East,

or there are some?

 

[LABERIA]

True and not only him, even the vice president of SYRIZA/ANEΛ P. Kamenos said that.
we can not hold the millions of immigrants,
NEITHER WE CAN BE THE ELLIS ISLAND OF EUROPE,
AS IN THE VIDEO ABOVE THESE PEOPLE COME TO GO TO EUROPA, NOT TO STAY IN GREECE,

IF FRONTEX, EU, and UN do not Help, we can not feed these numbers, when same time Shauble Put the sword of Damocles upon our head for counting economics

BESIDES, WE DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A JIHADIST POWER LIKE ALBANIA OR KOSSOVA.
Besides and since
ALBANIANS AND KOSSOVARS ARE GOOD PEOPLE, WHY YOU DO NOT INVITE SOME IMMIGRANTS TO STAY WITH YOU?
TO HELP GERMANY, FROM THE BAD GREEKS?
WHY?

There is nothing more simple than that,we are in crisis as Schauble and IMF told, we can feed our shelves, how come to feed the hundrends of foreigners?
and since as Pirro claim USA does always good, and Albanians are good people,
come on invide some 20-30 000 and give them jobs and hope and peace,

DO NOT ASK FROM OTHERS TO DO, WHAT YOU DID NOT,
and you should be ashamed, cause your hate for Greeks guide you to post that, with an evil purpose to hide the truth,
which is that Greeks can not feed such numbers at the times of economical crisis

PS
are you promoted? from the Albanian embassy at Athens, I learn now you work for Rama goverment at Tirana, Is it true girl?

It is the second time you call me in this way. Can you speak clearly? What is your problem? I am member of this forum from 2 weeks and i have read everything posted in this forum about Albania and Albanians in the last 2-3 years. I have read many of your posts and i can tell you that your writing style shows that you have serious problems with your mental health. I have read this your post:

@Lebrok

yes like Argentina2

anyway,

I grew in free in a family who teach me freedom,
at 1945-1950, communists took half of my grand father production, and 2 times they they try to execute my other grand father for ransom, as capitalist
today these 'communists' are rich enough,
i was born and grew the times of US Junda in Greece, and I was kid and I see 2 times my father to be taken by force from home, and accusing him for communism, and try to send him to exile,
growing up, I understand that every system, away from ideology, is rotten by its own supporters

According to this post you have an age between 40-50 years old. Is it normal for a person of your age to behave in this way?

P.S.
I am not a girl, i am a men. You probably confuse me with someone else.