Immigration What should Europeans do with illegal immigrants?

[Yetos]

Generally
it is a big problem

for 3 reasons,

1. Among these people are human beings, which have nothing to do with wars, and Islamofascists,

2. Europe must not turn to Eurabia

3. trafficking cheap human labour is something that is considered illegal and immoral,
it is the end of the word state/nation in name of cheap salaries to industry


so my proposal is

PUBLIC HANGING OF TRAFFICKERS,

SAVE SOULS BUT IN A WAY THAT CAN RETURN BACK TO THEIR HOMELANDS,
and not fresh meat to 'economic affairs' , or vultures of public Issues (like in my country with my com-patriots who ate most public issue money)

Europe is dying, lets keep another European generation before Eurabia comes

 

[Vallicanus]

Are you an evangelical christian? That would explain a lot.

No, he's some sort of Marxist throwback.

 

[epoch]

Generally
it is a big problem

for 3 reasons,

1. Among these people are human beings, which have nothing to do with wars, and Islamofascists,

2. Europe must not turn to Eurabia

3. trafficking cheap human labour is something that is considered illegal and immoral,
it is the end of the word state/nation in name of cheap salaries to industry


so my proposal is

PUBLIC HANGING OF TRAFFICKERS,

SAVE SOULS BUT IN A WAY THAT CAN RETURN BACK TO THEIR HOMELANDS,
and not fresh meat to 'economic affairs' , or vultures of public Issues (like in my country with my com-patriots who ate most public issue money)

Europe is dying, lets keep another European generation before Eurabia comes

Tow them back, sink their boats and punish the smugglers. Next to that: sent asylum seekers back. And have Germany behave in a normal way: i.e. not grant asylum to every Syrian refugee, thereby bypassing every attempt to enforce rules set by the EU. Germany is currently destroying every attempt to handle this.

There is no need for death punishment.

 

[Vallicanus]

Generally
it is a big problem

for 3 reasons,

1. Among these people are human beings, which have nothing to do with wars, and Islamofascists,

2. Europe must not turn to Eurabia

3. trafficking cheap human labour is something that is considered illegal and immoral,
it is the end of the word state/nation in name of cheap salaries to industry


so my proposal is

PUBLIC HANGING OF TRAFFICKERS,

SAVE SOULS BUT IN A WAY THAT CAN RETURN BACK TO THEIR HOMELANDS,
and not fresh meat to 'economic affairs' , or vultures of public Issues (like in my country with my com-patriots who ate most public issue money)

Europe is dying, lets keep another European generation before Eurabia comes

Europe is finished now.

Just look at the calibre of leaders in the EU. Come on!

 

[epoch]

Europe is finished now.

Just look at the calibre of leaders in the EU. Come on!

I would call it their "Weimar moment".

 

[Vallicanus]

I would call it their "Weimar moment".

Damn!

Is there an evil dictator coming?

 

[epoch]

Damn!

Is there an evil dictator coming?

Lets take analogies not too far. I meant to say that the Weimar republic was considered a joke by its people. While that greatly contributed to the rise of National-Socialism I'm not stating that this is the inevitable outcome. However it's good to realize socialists and other Weimar parties that made such a colossal mess never felt the slightest responsibility for the rise of the NSDAP.

 

[Vallicanus]

Europe is run by Socialists and faux Conservatives, which is nearly as bad.

 

[epoch]

Europe is run by Socialists and faux Conservatives, which is nearly as bad.

Exactly. And these people also won't own up to their colossal failures. I mean, thanks to Germany and their decision to grant all Syrians asylum the EU's migration and asylum regulations and policies are effectively made by people smugglers in the Middle-East.

 

[LeBrok]

Originally Posted by epoch
Are you an evangelical christian? That would explain a lot.


No, he's some sort of Marxist throwback.

Now this is precious! For an atheist I'm a Christian. For Christian I'm a Marxist.
So much fun here looking for humanity, for one just and compassionate human.






"The Syrians are coming, Europe is over!" lol Can you check on definition of psychosis?

 

[Vallicanus]

Now this is precious! For an atheist I'm a Christian. For Christian I'm a Marxist.
So much fun here looking for humanity, for one just human.

You are laughably self-righteous.

We are all entitled to our opinions!

 

[epoch]

Europe has sent 50 million emigrants to America in 20th century, not mentioning, millions of Asians, Africans, Muslims, Buddhists, etc, etc. I'm sure America is dead by now, lol.

In Jared Diamonds "Gun, Germs and Steel" he describes how a Blackfoot Indian cursed his white boss:

It was therefore a shocking disappointment to me when, one Sunday morning, Levi too staggered in drunk and cursing after a Saturday-night binge. Among his curses, one has stood out in my memory:
"Damn you, Fred Hirschy, and damn the ship that brought you from Switzerland!"

It is always very, very telling to hear the colonists of North America explaining how successful they are dealing with immigration and completely, utterly forgetting to mention the original Americans. It goes to show how irrelevant these indigenous peoples have become in their own lands due to that same migration.

 

[bicicleur 2]

Generally
it is a big problem

for 3 reasons,

1. Among these people are human beings, which have nothing to do with wars, and Islamofascists,

2. Europe must not turn to Eurabia

3. trafficking cheap human labour is something that is considered illegal and immoral,
it is the end of the word state/nation in name of cheap salaries to industry


so my proposal is

PUBLIC HANGING OF TRAFFICKERS,

SAVE SOULS BUT IN A WAY THAT CAN RETURN BACK TO THEIR HOMELANDS,
and not fresh meat to 'economic affairs' , or vultures of public Issues (like in my country with my com-patriots who ate most public issue money)

Europe is dying, lets keep another European generation before Eurabia comes

I like your way of thinking.
I suggest :

Collect all refugees in a large camp of 100 km wide along the border.
Let ISIS have it's way till nobody else but ISIS is left in Syria and surroundings.
Then bomb the whole area till there is no more bloody ISIS people left.
Then empty the large refugee camp by sending them all back to where they came from.

A neat and clean solution, don't you think so?

 

[Kardu]

Anything on a subject of immigrants destroying Western civilization in Europe and America? Or rather you wish they destroyed it? Anything other than 100 year old prophecies and your wishful thinking? How about how to solve this crisis?

Enough with silly insinuations. I am asking you again do you reduce the West to your liberal quasireligion?
Yes, I do want it gone then, so Europe is free again from its rotting influence.
This so called crisis (in reality an invasion) is caused by idiotic laws imposed on European nations. So you want the solution? Then for starters amend these laws.

 

[Vallicanus]

You are laughably self-righteous.

We are all entitled to our opinions!

Syrians don't worry me.

Subsaharan Africa does, with its population boom and millions flowing into Europe through Italy in coming years and decades.

Lebrok has only liberal platitudes and anecdotal evidence to offer but no sensible solutions.

 

[Kardu]

And this is happening in a country where migrants and locals have generally same ethnic background and culture:

"In the communities where refugees are concentrated, the friction is palpable.


“They are breeding camps for terrorists and disease,” said Ali Rahimi, a shopkeeper in the nearby town of Talabaya.


“The Lebanese are being squeezed because of them. They have less food. They don’t have jobs,” said Rahimi, who is a Shiite Muslim. “If this situation continues much longer, there will be war” between the refugees and the native population."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...58b284-9c15-11e4-86a3-1b56f64925f6_story.html

 

[Taranis]

Europe is finished now.

Just look at the calibre of leaders in the EU. Come on!

If anything is going to finish Europe, its hysteria, populism and creeping fascism (UKIP in the UK, Front National in France), not immigration. You're talking about human beings, not some kind of zombie apocalypse or a hostile force of "colonizers" that is out to take away your land. I find personally that it tells volumes that you get the biggest riots in those parts of Germany that are amongst those with the smallest percentage of immigrants.

Mind you, I'm not saying that they should all come to Germany. But you should consider that Oriental Christians (and other religious minorities, for example the Mandaeans and the Yazidi) have no future in the Near East. They won't be able to return for the foreseeable future. And this is something that can be blamed entirely on the so-called "Coalition of the willing" that happily marched into Iraq (on the whim of a blatant lie), without any plan for the "after", without any care for the potential consequences. So, in my opinion, I see these countries as more in the duty to take these people.

 

[Kardu]

. And this is something that can be blamed entirely on the so-called "Coalition of the willing" that happily marched into Iraq (on the whim of a blatant lie), without any plan for the "after", without any care for the potential consequences. So, in my opinion, I see these countries as more in the duty to take these people.

Peoples of Europe were not asked for a permission when those governments (whose allegiance is quite suspiscious) marched into those disastrous wars and now they are the ones to have to pay price for the consequences?!

 

[epoch]

If anything is going to finish Europe, its hysteria, populism and creeping fascism (UKIP in the UK, Front National in France), not immigration. You're talking about human beings, not some kind of zombie apocalypse or a hostile force of "colonizers" that is out to take away your land.

First, to call UKIP a fascist party is an insult to its voters, represents a colossal misunderstanding of fascism and is sign of the kind of lazy thinking that is blinding the left.

I find personally that it tells volumes that you get the biggest riots in those parts of Germany that are amongst those with the smallest percentage of immigrants

There are no riots in the Netherlands but the discontent is no less. It is just that it is considered culturally taboo. I would reckon that it is even more so in Germany. However, the east of Germany is far less influenced by the events of the 60s and its cultural offspring: Political Correctness.

Mind you, I'm not saying that they should all come to Germany. But you should consider that Oriental Christians (and other religious minorities, for example the Mandaeans and the Yazidi) have no future in the Near East. They won't be able to return for the foreseeable future.

Ah, you want to take in 16 million people, the number of Christians in the Middle East? Well, of all people coming to Europe in these boats in the first half of 2015 only 5% were from Syria. The rest came from elsewhere. You want to take these to? If not, the issue simply reappears: What are you going to do about the other migrants?

And this is something that can be blamed entirely on the so-called "Coalition of the willing" that happily marched into Iraq (on the whim of a blatant lie), without any plan for the "after", without any care for the potential consequences. So, in my opinion, I see these countries as more in the duty to take these people.

You want to punish them with migrants?

 

[epoch]

If anything is going to finish Europe, its hysteria, populism and creeping fascism (UKIP in the UK, Front National in France), not immigration.

There is a second thing that bugs me about your response. When Joerg Haider came into power in 2000 (in a coalition government) the response of the left complete hysteria. A number of nations wanted sanctions against Austria and privately I recall people commenting that fascism had re-emerged. The FPÖ governed for a while and were swept away the next elections.

No trains to a new Auschwitz. No mass expulsions. No putch. No anti-democratic action undertaken. No militia's ruling the streets. They took part in a government and were elected out again. They kept playing by the democratic rules. I remember hearing the same with Danish People's Party that took part in a democratically elected government and made way for the next when elected out. Playing by the democratic rules.

The essence of fascism is anti-democratic and militaristic. That is how it envisions society after their project would succeed, that is how Mussolini defined it. So we have *proof* that these parties aren't fascist. However, you call them that way, which in my view is also a form of hysteria.