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Immigration What should Europeans do with illegal immigrants?

Kardu said:
Like a good cultural marxist he dreams to once and for all break the back of European identity and culture which are like a bone in the throat of their heaven on the earth utopia...
(and as a usual tactic he will deny this and name some heartbreaking issues like compassion and human rights)
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Why would a Georgian care about the breakdown of European identity?

Anyone who has ever paid any attention to LeBrok's posts knows he's not a Marxist.

People who go around talking about "cultural Marxists" are usually Europeans of the racist, Nordicist variety.

If the shoe fits, have the courage to wear it.
 
DejaVu said:
You are using to much sugar. You know sugar is added in many foods and drinks and make people depressed, anxious and stressed.
Racism? There is no race between humans only mutations. You should know that by reading all DNA information.
Talk about jesus is not related and you got a lot of preconceptions.
If you are going to act as a good zionist remove this message and the rest that was discussed in the message that was removed.
Leave no traits.
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This is why many scientists want nothing to do with genetics research; it's because the hobbyist community is infested with hyper-nationalist, racist, or anti-Semitic troglodytes who distort every bit of evidence, no matter what it takes.

Instead of studying like demons to get advanced degrees and working sixty or seventy hours a week to advance themselves, these often young people waste hours a week on proving who's supposedly superior.

Anti-Semitism, in particular, is the refuge of LOSERS who can't compete, jealous of the accomplishments of others. I'm sick to death of having to read the filth imported here by posters from the racist anthrofora world or ultra-nationalist groups guilty of who knows what crimes. If Le Brok doesn't delete **** like that, then I will...
 
LeBrok said:
It was an example for Epoch to point to well being of locals surrounded by migrants. He's claim is that locals always suffer if they allow migrants in.
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there is a big difference between being surrounded by humble servants or by foreigners who come to claim a small piece of your land
that is the difference, essentially
 
bicicleur said:
there is a big difference between being surrounded by humble servants or by foreigners who come to claim a small piece of your land
that is the difference, essentially
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Stop comparing the situation of 'native' Europeans to that of the Native Americans after 1492. That comparison does not hold up, not even by a long stretch. The displaced people from the Near East are decisively not technologically superior criminals-turned-entrepeneurs with a nag for gold that as a lovely side effect spread pandemic diseases in your place that en-masse cull the native population. Get real, folks.
 
How do we know who is who, when immigrants dont have any documentation with them.
Many of them can be and are terrorists and murderers.
Security threat for EU.
 
Angela said:
This is why many scientists want nothing to do with genetics research; it's because the hobbyist community is infested with hyper-nationalist, racist, or anti-Semitic troglodytes who distort every bit of evidence, no matter what it takes.

Instead of studying like demons to get advanced degrees and working sixty or seventy hours a week to advance themselves, these often young people waste hours a week on proving who's supposedly superior.

Anti-Semitism, in particular, is the refuge of LOSERS who can't compete, jealous of the accomplishments of others. I'm sick to death of having to read the filth imported here by posters from the racist anthrofora world or ultra-nationalist groups guilty of who knows what crimes. If Le Brok doesn't delete **** like that, then I will...
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Anti zionism is a veto to not expose zionist agenda.
 
DejaVu said:
I dont know, google it and post if you want.
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Googled it, and the Zionist agenda was to create a Jewish homeland in the land of Israel, this was completed 67 years ago, so as far as I know, no agenda.
 
LeBrok said:
It is like saying, I'll be an ******* to Syrians because all the world is too. Position worth of Catholic Christian.
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Speaking about Catholic Church if parishes took some refugees I would support them. But I doubt that is what Syrians expect. However far as I know the program of sharing refugees lobbied by Angela Merkel and EU does not include Catholic Church involvement.
 
matbir said:
How many refugees ware given the shelter in Israel?
Just 1000 - just one thousand! Israel do not have immigrant crisis, they are building fence on the Israeli-Syrian border to stop the wave of refugees. See what Benjamin Netanyahu sais abbot crisis: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Po...cant-absorb-Syrian-or-African-refugees-415374
If Hungary had taken the same effort as Israel to give shelter for refugees it would have been 1000 refugees in Hungary at all instead of 2000 crossing border illegally every day. Just to compare Israel has population of 8.3 mln people and Hungary has 9.9 mln, so they're demographic potential is quite alike. While Hungary is under constant attack from western politicians for being not open enough.
Why refugees do not go to Iran which is Shiite country, so they are god shelter from Sunni extremism?
Why countries that are culturally close cannot help Syrian refugees? Why People want to go to Germany 4000 km from their homeland?

That is the result of bankruptcy of European welfare state. People from poor countries are going to "Eldorado" the place where everything is easy and money fall from the sky. But instead of enriching our countries they are building Middle Eastern society in Europe from which they fled.
Now Germany wants to "export" their problems to countries Like Poland and Hungary instead of reforming social policy.

BTW Poland have already 800 000 Ukrainian residents, that fled from war. We did our job, and no one cried for that.:wink:


Come on, I do not believe in that statistics. There are people with agenda that are creating such "statistics" to prove their imagined multiculti thesis. If it were so then there wouldn't be the problem with Pakistani jihadists from families that live in Great Britain from 1970'.
Europe have big problem with Muslims. We have enough seeing what is happening in European capital of rape which is Stockholm.
We cannot risk to make the same mistake what did north-western Europe. I think that Poland is secure country and I would like it to stay that way. Let the US to pay for their actions, because they are responsible for creation of ISIS, and collapse of Assad regime
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How many immigrants have many east European countries accepted? Israel has around 55,000 (as of 2012) immigrants from Sudan and Eritrea thank you very much [http://www.piba.gov.il/PublicationAndTender/ForeignWorkersStat/Documents/סיכום שנתי 2011.pdf] (please be aware that the article is in Hebrew). Be so kind as to provide a source for the 800,000 refugees from Ukraine?
 
When i google it I found this http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
This article was first published on Global Research April 29, 2013 - By Israel Shahak.
“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East

Is this anti-semitism or anti-zionism? My view is that zionists are extreme nationalists, is this right or wrong?
Its not about what i believe but the information exist on the web and can be shared if someone want to question it?
There are extreme nationalists in every country and of course it does not represent all people and what they want.

 
Isis fighters posing as refugees are being smuggled to Europe on migrant boats, report says


http://www.tvm.com.mt/mt/news/kelli...fikaw-eluf-ta-estremisti-baxx-baxx-fl-ewropa/

This is from local National news. Sorry I could not find an English version. Basically what its saying is that an ISIS spokesmen relieved that ISIS has already sent 4000 fighters posing as refugees to Europe. The fact that I did not find the news anywhere else is a little suspicious.
 
DejaVu said:
When i google it I found this http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
This article was first published on Global Research April 29, 2013 - By Israel Shahak.
“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East

Is this anti-semitism or anti-zionism? My view is that zionists are extreme nationalists, is this right or wrong?
Its not about what i believe but the information exist on the web and can be shared if someone want to question it?
There are extreme nationalists in every country and of course it does not represent all people and what they want.
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In truth I'm tired of tags like Anti-Semitism. Zionism by definition is Jewish nationalism, big deal. The greater Israel is a myth, it was abandoned years ago, it can't be done.
 
Taranis said:
Stop comparing the situation of 'native' Europeans to that of the Native Americans after 1492. That comparison does not hold up, not even by a long stretch. The displaced people from the Near East are decisively not technologically superior criminals-turned-entrepeneurs with a nag for gold that as a lovely side effect spread pandemic diseases in your place that en-masse cull the native population. Get real, folks.
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who's talking about Native Americans after 1492 ?
I'm not, but you seem pretty annoyed with that
I suggest you read the previous posts, starting here
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...gal-immigrants?p=466246&viewfull=1#post466246
and after you've done that then tell me about it
 
John Doe said:
How many immigrants have many east European countries accepted? Israel has around 55,000 (as of 2012) immigrants from Sudan and Eritrea thank you very much [http://www.piba.gov.il/PublicationAndTender/ForeignWorkersStat/Documents/סיכום שנתי 2011.pdf] (please be aware that the article is in Hebrew). Be so kind as to provide a source for the 800,000 refugees from Ukraine?
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can't read it
you say immagrants, or where they refugees?
and on what criteria were they accepted?
 
matbir said:
Speaking about Catholic Church if parishes took some refugees I would support them. But I doubt that is what Syrians expect. However far as I know the program of sharing refugees lobbied by Angela Merkel and EU does not include Catholic Church involvement.
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There are many sponsorship programs through Christian groups. Many in the U.S. (and some in Canada) which focus on Christian refugees seem to be affiliated with Evangelical groups, like the groups associated with the Church of the Nazarene. Individual families are in some cases offering to take a Middle Eastern Christian family to live with them. In other cases, the Churches are collecting money from members to sponsor families.

http://rcav.org/refugee-sponsorship-program-sponsor/
http://www.mercuryone.org/hear_the_call_take_action_now
https://www.evangelicalfellowship.ca/MiddleEastRefugees

In Canada, there's been quite a few Catholic Archdioceses that are involved, particularly the Archdioceses of Vancouver and Toronto. In just one trip from one diocese, 700 families were interviewed and approved.
http://www.catholicnews.com/service...t-sponsorship-of-iraqi-christian-refugees.cfm

The Archbishop of Toronto has been particularly active. I think he is dead wrong not to prioritize Christian families, however. You help your own first. Also, to ignore the security implications involved with sponsoring Muslim families, especially Muslim men, should be obvious. I wouldn't want to take the responsibility for vetting them.
http://www.catholicregister.org/ite...ooking-to-sponsor-100-syrian-refugee-families

I've been appalled that the Catholic Church in the U.S. hasn't been as proactive as the Canadian Church, but that is starting to change.

The problem is that even when the Churches or private individuals are ready to provide the assistance, the governmental paperwork takes forever.

As I said, in my personal opinion, the U.S. and Canadian governments should fast track the paperwork for the Christians. The Muslims are more problematical and all the PC talk in the world isn't going to change that. The economic migrants are a still yet different group. Even aid workers in Europe have reported that the aggressive behavior is by economic refugees who often don't even come from Syria or Iraq, but who are using the crisis as a cover.

Speaking of aid in Europe itself, I'm sure that some individuals are trying to help the families in need. I don't know about individual parishes, but I do know that Church relief organizations are active both in the Middle East and in Europe.

CNEWA works with the Christians in the Middle East itself.
http://www.cnewa.org/default.aspx?ID=2597&pagetypeID=8&sitecode=HQ&pageno=1

Caritas works with the refugees in Europe. It was asked to help specifically by the Hungarian government.
 
Sile said:
How many syrian immigrants have the gulf states accepted............zero
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Well, they sure as heck aren't going to accept the Christian ones...you can't even hold Christian services in Saudi Arabia. That's why the Christian refugees have to be processed separately.
 
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