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For skin colours I made also % states based on the data found in the first post of this thread. the labelling from left to right is: "dark", "dark"(less), "intermediary", "light", "very light" - based on European pop's "intermediary" is just a less white skin, kind of 'mediter' one. But...

For skin colours I made also % states based on the data found in the first post of this thread. the labelling from left to right is: "dark", "dark"(less), "intermediary", "light", "very light" - based on European pop's "intermediary" is just a less white skin, kind of 'mediter' one. But...

You make big conclusions based on little, we don't know for sure concerning P312* but as a bet I doubt it was born in Iberia, ather in central Europe. The fact is first Iberian BB's had not Y-R1b at all. Concerning the paper, they say if I recall well, that the majority of DF27 in these...

I had begun a thread on this and didn't go farther than hair colours - It was based on GENETIKER's "work" - I'll try to go further on - some lacks: only two eyes colour!!! when you have dark and light eyes, you have always between hues - same for the skin: Europeans, even if less light than...

Where have you seen a confimed L51 was present in Iberia since Neolithic??? Even P12??? I find this paper good enough. autosomes genealogic approach is always kind of proxi's use. What have you to reproach to the use of Germany BB? What would you put in its place? Iberian BB's? Too mixed. don't...

There is a phoetic trait of some interest but it concerns nly P-Celtic dialects. The French and western Romances evolution of *W- into *Gw- an then /g-/ had been considered in France as a Germanic effect spite it is completely foreign to Germanic trends (Germanic *W- stayed /w/- only in Britain...

follow: From an archaeological perspective, the appearance of channelled pottery within collective burials reflects a connection of NE Iberia with Central Europe<a data-track="click" data-track-action="reference anchor" data-track-label="link" data-test="citation-ref" title="Ruiz Zapatero, G...

In south, Gauls tribes were sharing territories with Aquitanian tribes in S-W and Ligurian ones in S-E. No suprise if by time they mated wth people of the other etnies. Even in West, I think they have had to share with pre-Celtic people of some sorts before IA when it seems more Celts plus some...

So much Y-T ?!?

It's true that it depends on what criteria you take as relevant...

I didn't manage to open these docs, spite I downloaded the PDF system!!! Problem!

The surprising thing is that they imply a southeastern Iberia BA input spite an allover increase in Steppe-like input between FBA and EIA. I cannot help thinking in a SE to NE spread of Iberic speakers, maybe at the cost of some kind of Ligurians? (just a specultion). However...

It seems a "southern" (rather Balkanic + light Germanic) input concerned the alleged region for the Slavs possible craddle. I think it would be very interesting to search for Y-I2a1b specific subclades involved in the Slavs genesis. It could have been the cause of the definitive break between...

more: lalde and colleagues<a data-track="click" data-track-action="reference anchor" data-track-label="link" data-test="citation-ref" title="Olalde, I. et al. The genomic history of the Iberian Peninsula over the past 8000 years. Science 363, 1230–1234 (2019)."...

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Marina Bretos Ezcurra, Adam B. Rohrlach, Luka Papac, José Ignacio Royo Guillén, Rodrigo Barquera, Fabiola Gómez Lecumberri, Rafael Laborda Lorente, Roberto Risch, Johannes Krause, Jesús V. Picazo Millán, Wolfgang Haak & Vanessa Villalba-Mouco Introduction European prehistoric genetic diversity...

Marina Bretos Ezcurra, Adam B. Rohrlach, Luka Papac, José Ignacio Royo Guillén, Rodrigo Barquera, Fabiola Gómez Lecumberri, Rafael Laborda Lorente, Roberto Risch, Johannes Krause, Jesús V. Picazo Millán, Wolfgang Haak & Vanessa Villalba-Mouco Introduction European prehistoric genetic diversity...

I'll try to translate a digest based on a French one, thanks to Bernard Sécher. https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-025-08668-7 Good reading.

Itsn't y take here. They are trying to reread history. Africans cattle herders had surely some good knowledge about their own cattle and this knowledge could have been exploited by colonizators in America. But the mounted cow-boy's work is another thing and I doubt owners of cattle would have...

fom FamilyTreeDNA: The R-BY3951 paternal line was formed when it branched off from the ancestor R-BY1823 and the rest of humankind around 1600 BCE. This date is an estimate based on genetic information only. With a 95% probability, the ancestor R-BY1823 was born between the years 2218 and...