My branch prior of year 1000 ac (800bc) has a connection with One guy from asturias
This is your Y haplogroup tree in yfull (your branch is R-BY95973, that is equivalent to R-Y86612 in Yfull tree):
As Duarte explained, you would have to pay both FTDNA for the .BAM file and the fee from yfull to have your sample included in the tree.
There is an space for the information about most distant ancestors, but this is optional (like FTDNA). So you'd probably need to contact the owners of the samples.
Ok. Yor mtDNA was imported from FTDNA too?
Yes, you need to take the mtDNA test.
There is a tendency to assume that R1b and other similar clades have spread in recent times solely from the far north fringes to the south (Reconquista). Still, I can't see why they couldn't have expanded naturally with bell-beakers and what later became Celticized tribes. The peninsula is prominent, and there is no barrier to these people moving quickly to Andalusia and other areas for settlement. Indeed, the process wasn't unique to the North…and if anything, these people didn't sit in the North and then decided to miraculously all at once move south. It is far more logical that several waves moved in different paths in their expansion. What do you think? The Lusitanians, for example, expanded entirely south; they aren't northern fringe tribes, and our clade was found in the Roman period in Lusitania territory, dating in more central-south locations. Conimbriga, for example, etc. I am not saying our clade is uniquely Lusitanian, as it was found in north Spain and even in North East France, Rhine area Germany and a brand new sample even appears from Bulgaria… despite being probably the most Iberian-shifted r1b-df27 subclade to date, it shows surprising levels of modern diversity.
So in your opinion before the 'Reconquista' we are Mozarabs?
I have always had great doubts about the meaning of the term Mozarab, as opposed to other terms used to describe Christians and Muslims, ethnic and non-ethnic, in the Iberian Peninsula during the Muslim occupation. This causes doubt even in understanding the analyses of cultures identified in Iberian archaeological sites in the supplementary tables of academic studies. Sometimes they speak of Moors, sometimes they speak of Mozarabs and other times they only speak of Christians and Muslims. If I am wrong, please correct me: The Iberian Christians who lived under Muslim rule in Al-Andalus, those that were called Mozarabs, were descendants of the ancient Hispano-Gothic Christians who became Arabic speakers during Muslim rule. From the mid-9th century, the language of the rulers, Arabic, was widely adopted by the Mozarabs and so was their culture. These Arabized Christians were given the name Mozarabs. In contrast to the term Mozarab, the term Muladi was used. The Muladis were Christians who abandoned Christianity and converted to Islam and lived among Muslims. They were different from the Mozarabs, who remained Christians in areas under Muslim rule. Among the Muladis were populations of Hispano-Roman and Visigothic origin who adopted the religion, language and customs of Islam in order to enjoy the same rights as Muslims in Al-Andalus. In short, the Iberian Arab world was multiethnic and multicultural.
Yeah, the correct one is to rank ourselves as Bell Beakers, we R-DF27.
Yes normally when I mean the Mozarabes phalus of Christians who have adopted the Arabic language.
I wouldn't know how to refer to an individual who was a native of the Emirate of Córdoba in the 9th century. Emirati? Considering the language spoken at the time in the region of origin of his haplogroup, I would consider the timeline shown by the dynamic map in this Wikipedia article:
So Galician or Mozarabic.I wouldn't know how to refer to an individual who was a native of the Emirate of Córdoba in the 9th century. Emirati? Considering the language spoken at the time in the region of origin of his haplogroup, I would consider the timeline shown by the dynamic map in this Wikipedia article:
Língua moçárabe – Wikipédia, a enciclopédia livre
pt.m.wikipedia.org
Yes. Probably. Your ancestor with whom you share the Y haplogroup spoke a Romance language: Galician or Mozarabic, or even both, who knows (bilingual). From the example given in the Wikipedia article, it can be seen that Mozarabic, Castilian, Portuguese and Galician are very similar and mutually intelligible. With the Reconquista, the Galician expanded southwards, becoming Galician-Portuguese, and today Galician and Portuguese are distinct languages (some linguists still say that both are only one language, with two variants). The Mozarabic was pushed southwards until it completely disappeared at the end of the 14th century.
