K12b Where do Medieval Italian samples from Antonio et al. 2019 come from?

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Using the Dodecad K12b data provided by Jovialis's Ancient Rome Test v1.0, I ran each Medieval sample separately against modern populations. As Angela pointed out, many of the skeletons from the Latium region that were tested may have been pilgrims from other parts of Italy or Europe. This should provide better insight for the personal matches of anyone who uses the genetic distance calculator. I have listed the samples by burial location.

Palazzo della Cancelleria, central Rome (771-1411 calCE)

Those samples are very heterogeneous in origin and none seem to be local. R1219 looks Austrian, R1220 may come from Southeast France or the Alps, R1221 and R1224 from Aosta Valley, R1283 from the Marche, R1285 and R1287 from Corsica, Tuscany or Romagna, R1285 and R1286 from Germany, R1288 might be from modern Belgium, and R1289 from northern Spain.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1219_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD100, align: right"]8.84970056[/TD]
[TD]German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA900, align: right"]10.01800878[/TD]
[TD]Bosnian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA500, align: right"]10.13850088[/TD]
[TD]Hungarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7700, align: right"]11.50648513[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEC00, align: right"]8.04748586[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB200, align: right"]9.75453536[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA500, align: right"]10.13612352[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9C00, align: right"]10.41686613[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8F00, align: right"]10.79907015[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9EFF00, align: right"]4.64912579[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EDFF00, align: right"]6.95658106[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.90496758[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDC00, align: right"]8.53031893[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.58839543[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #90FF00, align: right"]4.24054059[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]7.26176700[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.26022472[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBB00, align: right"]9.49466166[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB400, align: right"]9.70334478[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #62FF00, align: right"]2.87198851[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8EFF00, align: right"]4.18285716[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #98FF00, align: right"]4.48059148[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]6.91392002[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A9FF00, align: right"]4.95855987[/TD]
[TD]France_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.72900515[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.73295543[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]6.52601027[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1286_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #86FF00, align: right"]3.95170849[/TD]
[TD]German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BBFF00, align: right"]5.49035518[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]6.10737259[/TD]
[TD]Dutch[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]4.49812139[/TD]
[TD]France_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A9FF00, align: right"]4.96607873[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]5.31727374[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DBFF00, align: right"]6.44594865[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DFFF00, align: right"]6.54767058[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1288_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]8.79032991[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]9.14831132[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.25266988[/TD]
[TD]German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.48304276[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB200, align: right"]9.75376338[/TD]
[TD]Dutch[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.07975393[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]5.33575674[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.34399716[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E3FF00, align: right"]6.67958831[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]7.09184743[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Villa Magna (820-1430 CE) in Anagni (Frosinone)

In contrast to the Cancelleria, most samples here appear to be local or South Italian. The exceptions are R55 and R61 (both North Italian), R62 (French/Belgian), and R63 (Spanish).

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R52___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A7FF00, align: right"]4.92471681[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A8FF00, align: right"]4.93031297[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]6.18603791[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.22434237[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R53___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6BFF00, align: right"]3.15041274[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #78FF00, align: right"]3.51527325[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8BFF00, align: right"]4.07746796[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #95FF00, align: right"]4.36937066[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R54___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #56FF00, align: right"]2.52721698[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #59FF00, align: right"]2.61053788[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #80FF00, align: right"]3.75606789[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #85FF00, align: right"]3.91256502[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4EFF00, align: right"]2.29520807[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #62FF00, align: right"]2.87308736[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #62FF00, align: right"]2.87533233[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A2FF00, align: right"]4.77416171[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R56___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4DFF00, align: right"]2.25696832[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #75FF00, align: right"]3.44506251[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #78FF00, align: right"]3.51524181[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A4FF00, align: right"]4.83193995[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R57___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9200, align: right"]10.70661252[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8700, align: right"]11.03871677[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6D00, align: right"]11.78143879[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6700, align: right"]11.98106694[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6600, align: right"]11.99134796[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R58___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #74FF00, align: right"]3.41588144[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A2FF00, align: right"]4.75263800[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A9FF00, align: right"]4.96906024[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B6FF00, align: right"]5.34821138[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.46218015[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R59___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7FFF00, align: right"]3.72085286[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #95FF00, align: right"]4.38579362[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9FFF00, align: right"]4.68549549[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ACFF00, align: right"]5.05756513[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R60___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8AFF00, align: right"]4.05517053[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #97FF00, align: right"]4.43348482[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B0FF00, align: right"]5.18685107[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.09799295[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R61___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.24222877[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E5FF00, align: right"]6.74439441[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EDFF00, align: right"]6.96378579[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF500, align: right"]7.79813033[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R62___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]8.76040524[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD100, align: right"]8.84359655[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC400, align: right"]9.22279784[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9C00, align: right"]10.40246125[/TD]
[TD]German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9400, align: right"]10.65894929[/TD]
[TD]Dutch[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R63___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]5.79568805[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]6.83400322[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.74857406[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF600, align: right"]7.75888523[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R64___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #86FF00, align: right"]3.94673853[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8CFF00, align: right"]4.12297053[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #90FF00, align: right"]4.22461876[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #96FF00, align: right"]4.40196184[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R65___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #36FF00, align: right"]1.57936886[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6FFF00, align: right"]3.26591345[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #76FF00, align: right"]3.46294744[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #97FF00, align: right"]4.43626867[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A8FF00, align: right"]4.94872186[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6AFF00, align: right"]3.11799546[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7DFF00, align: right"]3.66645142[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A3FF00, align: right"]4.80833734[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]5.40362887[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Tivoli Palazzo Cianti(1600-1700 CE)

All samples appear to be relatively local.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #88FF00, align: right"]4.00665172[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8BFF00, align: right"]4.09387954[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8DFF00, align: right"]4.14478033[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BDFF00, align: right"]5.55050881[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.45594025[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C0FF00, align: right"]5.66019272[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]6.13176304[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]6.92250590[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R973__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #36FF00, align: right"]1.58242335[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5EFF00, align: right"]2.75668750[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #75FF00, align: right"]3.45154284[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #78FF00, align: right"]3.51985014[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Here are now the samples for the Late Antiquity.


Mausoleum of Augustus, Rome (300-700 CE)

Very mixed. One German, one North Italian, one Calabrian, one Sicilian and one Jew.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R30___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #87FF00, align: right"]3.97577175[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.01773213[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]6.37718943[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DBFF00, align: right"]6.43644203[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E3FF00, align: right"]6.67999251[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R31___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B1FF00, align: right"]5.19241755[/TD]
[TD]German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]5.93676680[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.03682036[/TD]
[TD]Dutch[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R32___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D3FF00, align: right"]6.19178205[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E4FF00, align: right"]6.71056525[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EDFF00, align: right"]6.96393062[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6FF00, align: right"]7.22982165[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #65FF00, align: right"]2.98170029[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #89FF00, align: right"]4.01654299[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8CFF00, align: right"]4.11704240[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9DFF00, align: right"]4.61137897[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9DFF00, align: right"]4.63166321[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.08936268[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R34___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9FFF00, align: right"]4.68439964[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]5.40817899[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]7.04337791[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]7.63757160[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazy_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Crypta Balbi, Rome (400-600 CE)

Four out of seven samples are North Italians. One appears West German or Belgian. One from Abruzzo/Campania. R104 doesn't match any modern population but is closest to population with high European Neolithic Farmer ancestry.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R104__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.32309273[/TD]
[TD]Sardinian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0053, align: right"]17.44959025[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0084, align: right"]18.88248924[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B0FF00, align: right"]5.18126337[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]5.85537531[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00, align: right"]6.00541827[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.03021194[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.03941873[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R106__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAF00, align: right"]9.86028397[/TD]
[TD]Mixed_Germanic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]10.24173813[/TD]
[TD]German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6D00, align: right"]11.79750821[/TD]
[TD]Dutch[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6900, align: right"]11.91622004[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R107__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.46984823[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C5FF00, align: right"]5.80777978[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]6.29398824[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]6.79053054[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R108__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4FF00, align: right"]7.17376279[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]7.44007124[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE900, align: right"]8.15129536[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.07077794[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R109__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A4FF00, align: right"]4.83398785[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.22388243[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DDFF00, align: right"]6.50759556[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE400, align: right"]8.28935716[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B0FF00, align: right"]5.16933976[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]5.22525239[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C7FF00, align: right"]5.84723782[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.07875337[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DFFF00, align: right"]6.56645110[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Celio, Rome (400-600 CE)

One local from Lazio and one South Italian.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R35___Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5FFF00, align: right"]2.78705669[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6FFF00, align: right"]3.25545174[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #94FF00, align: right"]4.33982864[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #95FF00, align: right"]4.38907504[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5BFF00, align: right"]2.67098933[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #62FF00, align: right"]2.88050343[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6AFF00, align: right"]3.12280611[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

S. Ercolano Necropolis, Ostia (400-600 CE)

All from Lazio, Marche, Abruzzo or Campania.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R117__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9BFF00, align: right"]4.56126364[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.08336945[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.09341415[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.27776433[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R118__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ACFF00, align: right"]5.05516350[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DAFF00, align: right"]6.39966984[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]7.09165002[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5DFF00, align: right"]2.72502807[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #83FF00, align: right"]3.86621831[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #91FF00, align: right"]4.25041174[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #84FF00, align: right"]3.87610681[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #87FF00, align: right"]3.97489115[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]4.50175943[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AFFF00, align: right"]5.13760917[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R122__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #64FF00, align: right"]2.95552127[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #74FF00, align: right"]3.40354781[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #75FF00, align: right"]3.44436133[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B3FF00, align: right"]5.26539754[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
All of the samples to which I get reasonable hits are the ones which could be labeled Central Italian(possibly mostly "local") or Northern Italian, so it all makes sense.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Angela[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]6.16793320[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D3FF00, align: right"]6.20598904[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]6.88215809[/TD]
[TD]R111__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]9.01179227[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.10498215[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.25520934[/TD]
[TD]R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBE00, align: right"]9.40529638[/TD]
[TD]R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.46954592[/TD]
[TD]R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.61917356[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB100, align: right"]9.80181106[/TD]
[TD]R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAF00, align: right"]9.85873217[/TD]
[TD]R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA000, align: right"]10.29759195[/TD]
[TD]R118__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9000, align: right"]10.76144972[/TD]
[TD]R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8C00, align: right"]10.89582948[/TD]
[TD]R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8B00, align: right"]10.91793937[/TD]
[TD]R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8200, align: right"]11.16737659[/TD]
[TD]R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8100, align: right"]11.21531542[/TD]
[TD]R113__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4F00, align: right"]12.66933700[/TD]
[TD]R52___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4600, align: right"]12.94033230[/TD]
[TD]R969__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4300, align: right"]13.02701424[/TD]
[TD]R835__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3E00, align: right"]13.18377791[/TD]
[TD]R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3C00, align: right"]13.22393663[/TD]
[TD]R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3C00, align: right"]13.23101281[/TD]
[TD]R970__Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2900, align: right"]13.78290245[/TD]
[TD]R121__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2200, align: right"]13.98591792[/TD]
[TD]R836__Imperial_Era__Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

The rest are probably merchants, pilgrims or other travelers.
 
I’m more Medieval than Modern:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]LUPIAE[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #54FF00, align: right"]2.49000000[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5EFF00, align: right"]2.78107893[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #73FF00, align: right"]3.39329162[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Rs Top 10
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]LUPIAE[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #54FF00, align: right"]2.49000000[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5EFF00, align: right"]2.78107893[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9DFF00, align: right"]4.62665106[/TD]
[TD]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9FFF00, align: right"]4.66386106[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A1FF00, align: right"]4.74364838[/TD]
[TD]R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A6FF00, align: right"]4.88130106[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A7FF00, align: right"]4.90240757[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ACFF00, align: right"]5.04985148[/TD]
[TD]R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AEFF00, align: right"]5.10057840[/TD]
[TD]R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.45748110[/TD]
[TD]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
@Maciano

For your records, if you want

below is the R1 sample protoVillovan ..................female
born Nis Liburnia and died in Picene lands ( Marche )

using your method


[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3.19263925[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4.59394558[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4.79243154[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.36235312[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.41730100[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.48928753[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.14541374[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.75545261[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.93031835[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7.40857611[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.03419075[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.25871769[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.51680265[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.77139620[/TD]
[TD]France_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.87357841[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.98590263[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.81695528[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.20153028[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22.17265551[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


interesting is

Target: R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
Distance: 2.4220% / 2.42202404 | ADC: 0.5x

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]92.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Veneto[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]7.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Apulia[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
Distance: 2.2913% / 2.29129837 | ADC: 0.25x[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]84.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Veneto[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Apulia[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]4.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
Distance: 2.2777% / 2.27773577[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]79.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Veneto[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]11.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Apulia[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]8.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]


It would mean that the Apulian "illyrians" came to Apulia ( landing firstly in Foggia lands ) via what Italian scholars state, from the Iapodes Illyrians that lived next to Liburnians ( most likely shipped by Liburnian navy which was the only fleet from modern Corfu to Trieste in the early iron age )
 
torzio said:
@Maciano

For your records, if you want

below is the R1 sample protoVillovan ..................female
born Nis Liburnia and died in Picene lands ( Marche )
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Where is the evidence that Proto-Villanovan R1 sample was born in "Liburnia"?
 
Maciamo said:
Using the Dodecad K12b data provided by Jovialis's Ancient Rome Test v1.0, I ran each Medieval sample separately against modern populations. As Angela pointed out, many of the skeletons from the Latium region that were tested may have been pilgrims from other parts of Italy or Europe. This should provide better insight for the personal matches of anyone who uses the genetic distance calculator. I have listed the samples by burial location.

Palazzo della Cancelleria, central Rome (771-1411 calCE)
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Rome was the center of Christianity, it is not so strange that there were many foreigners. Not only pilgrims, but also friars, priests, bishops etc. from all over Europe and Italy.

For example, the Palazzo della Cancelleria was part of the Vatican institutions.
 
Pax Augusta said:
Where is the evidence that Proto-Villanovan R1 sample was born in "Liburnia"?
Click to expand...
my error, not Nis , but Nin

A Proto-Villanovan female from Martinsicuro in the Adriatic coast (ca. 890 BC), of mtDNA hg. U5a2b, is the earliest mainland sample available showing foreign ancestry:

Martinsicuro is a coastal site located on the border of Le Marche and Abruzzo on central Italy’s Adriatic coast. It is a proto-Villanovan village, situated on a hill above the Tronto river, dating to the late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age (…) finds from the site indicate an affinity with contemporaries in the Balkans, suggesting direct trade contacts and interaction across the Adriatic. In particular, the practice of decorating ceramics with bronze elements was shared between the Nin region in Croatia and Picene region of Italy, including Martinsicuro.
​
The sample clusters very close to the Early Iron Age sample from Jazinka (ca. 780 BC), from the central Dalmatian onomastic region, on the east Adriatic coast opposite to Marche lands, possibly related to the south-east Dalmatian onomastic region to the south. However, there is no clear boundary between hydrotoponymic regions for the Bronze Age, and it is quite close to the (possibly Venetic-related) Liburnian onomastic region to the north, so the accounts of Martinsicuro belonging to the Liburni in proto-historical times can probably be extrapolated to the Final Bronze Age.
 
torzio said:
my error, not Nis , but Nin

A Proto-Villanovan female from Martinsicuro in the Adriatic coast (ca. 890 BC), of mtDNA hg. U5a2b, is the earliest mainland sample available showing foreign ancestry:
Martinsicuro is a coastal site located on the border of Le Marche and Abruzzo on central Italy’s Adriatic coast. It is a proto-Villanovan village, situated on a hill above the Tronto river, dating to the late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age (…) finds from the site indicate an affinity with contemporaries in the Balkans, suggesting direct trade contacts and interaction across the Adriatic. In particular, the practice of decorating ceramics with bronze elements was shared between the Nin region in Croatia and Picene region of Italy, including Martinsicuro.
​
The sample clusters very close to the Early Iron Age sample from Jazinka (ca. 780 BC), from the central Dalmatian onomastic region, on the east Adriatic coast opposite to Marche lands, possibly related to the south-east Dalmatian onomastic region to the south. However, there is no clear boundary between hydrotoponymic regions for the Bronze Age, and it is quite close to the (possibly Venetic-related) Liburnian onomastic region to the north, so the accounts of Martinsicuro belonging to the Liburni in proto-historical times can probably be extrapolated to the Final Bronze Age.
Click to expand...


Where did the text you posted come from? The text comes from blogger Carl Quilles, who is not an academic scholar but at most he can be considered a hobbyist. According to his own biography, he has no university background in this subject. So, no evidence.


This is the original text and it doesn't mention any birth of R1 in the Balkans. The text speaks of an affinity in material culture suggesting trade, interaction and contacts, which is a well-known fact.

0kBaNE8.png
 
Pax Augusta said:
Where did the text you posted come from? The text comes from blogger Carl Quilles, who is not an academic scholar but at most he can be considered a hobbyist. According to his own biography, he has no university background in this subject. So, no evidence.


This is the original text and it doesn't mention any birth of R1 in the Balkans. The text speaks of an affinity in material culture suggesting trade, interaction and contacts, which is a well-known fact.

0kBaNE8.png
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I think it was via sizzi attachment
 
torzio said:
I think it was via sizzi attachment
Click to expand...

on a lap top now
a sizzi thread attachment in italian ..............I got a english version

Do you think all Villanovan sample are only etruscans ?
even when they held Rome for over 200 years and claimed naples from the greeks ..............or even arriving in Adria on the adriatic coast

hope you do not think that only etruscans can have Villanovan or proto-villanovan
 
torzio said:
on a lap top now
a sizzi thread attachment in italian ..............I got a english version

Do you think all Villanovan sample are only etruscans ?
even when they held Rome for over 200 years and claimed naples from the greeks ..............or even arriving in Adria on the adriatic coast
Click to expand...

Proto-Villanovan R1 is Proto-Picene/Proto-Italic.

Villanovan R1015 is Etruscan.




 
Pax Augusta said:
Proto-Villanovan R1 is Proto-Picene/Proto-Italic.

Villanovan R1015 is Etruscan.
Click to expand...

As long as you do not think every Villanovan is not etruscan .................I will check on R1015



[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9.24585840[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.47190348[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.59439172[/TD]
[TD]France_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.67138183[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11.32346900[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11.45354578[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.15522425[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.35516815[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.48426575[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.52109061[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.14121316[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.18462380[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17.92780238[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.70868739[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23.67064439[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25.60013410[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26.16214227[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26.41047302[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]28.64339688[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]




Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 8.1764% / 8.17643111 | ADC: 0.5x

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]56.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]33.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]9.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Swiss_Italian[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 8.1328% / 8.13276039 | ADC: 0.25x[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]57.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]42.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 8.1324% / 8.13237277[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]57.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]43.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]


At best this person is mostly likely a Gallic-Ligurian mix
 
My closest match is R110

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6DFF00, align: right"]3.20856666[/TD]
[TD]R110__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #88FF00, align: right"]3.99085204[/TD]
[TD]R474__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]6.33544000[/TD]
[TD]R105__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F0FF00, align: right"]7.06787097[/TD]
[TD]R55___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.72353546[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.81421781[/TD]
[TD]R33___Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.08064973[/TD]
[TD]R109__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]8.43316074[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_____Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]8.48432083[/TD]
[TD]R473__Iron_Age_____Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD500, align: right"]8.72169708[/TD]
[TD]R63___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]8.97703737[/TD]
[TD]R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBF00, align: right"]9.39635036[/TD]
[TD]R1021_Iron_Age_____Boville_Ernica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBE00, align: right"]9.42583683[/TD]
[TD]R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9F00, align: right"]10.31083411[/TD]
[TD]R851__Iron_Age_____Ardea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9B00, align: right"]10.42913707[/TD]
[TD]R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9700, align: right"]10.55089570[/TD]
[TD]R435__Iron_Age_____Palestrina_Colombella[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]10.67592619[/TD]
[TD]R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8600, align: right"]11.06633634[/TD]
[TD]R61___Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5B00, align: right"]12.32318546[/TD]
[TD]R36___Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4C00, align: right"]12.76021160[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4B00, align: right"]12.80834103[/TD]
[TD]R111__Imperial_Era__Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4400, align: right"]13.01039584[/TD]
[TD]R108__Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3E00, align: right"]13.18746754[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2600, align: right"]13.89386195[/TD]
[TD]R120__Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1E00, align: right"]14.11668871[/TD]
[TD]R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
torzio said:
As long as you do not think every Villanovan is not etruscan .................I will check on R1015At best this person is mostly likely a Gallic-Ligurian mix
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It's not so difficult to understand, Torzio. Trust me. Is Villanovan R1015 at best a Gallic-Ligurian mix? You're so funny. So are you suggesting that in 900 B.C. in Veio, a well-known Etruscan city in southern Etruria, lived both Gauls and Ligurians? There is always something new to learn.


Proto-Villanovan culture is a Bronze Age culture, Villanovan is an Iron Age culture. They are called similarly because the Villanovan culture was discovered earlier than the Proto-Villanovan culture by two different archeologists. Although they have kept these names, further distinctions have been made in recent years by archaeologists, because there's a huge difference between the two. The Villanovan culture is the most ancient phase of the Etruscan civilization, while the proto-Villanovan culture is a supranational bronze culture not only ancestral to the Etruscans.
 
torzio said:
As long as you do not think every Villanovan is not etruscan .................I will check on R1015



[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9.24585840[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.47190348[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.59439172[/TD]
[TD]France_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.67138183[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11.32346900[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11.45354578[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.15522425[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.35516815[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.48426575[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.52109061[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.14121316[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.18462380[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17.92780238[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.70868739[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23.67064439[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25.60013410[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26.16214227[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26.41047302[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]28.64339688[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]




Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 8.1764% / 8.17643111 | ADC: 0.5x

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]56.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]33.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]9.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Swiss_Italian[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 8.1328% / 8.13276039 | ADC: 0.25x[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]57.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]42.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 8.1324% / 8.13237277[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]57.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]43.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]


At best this person is mostly likely a Gallic-Ligurian mix
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Stop making up your own idiosyncratic definitions for these samples. Neither is "Sizzi" an unimpeachable source. From what I've read at his site he doesn't even know that the people with one of the largest proportions of Anatolia Neolithic are Northern Italians.

This sample is an Etruscan, buried in an Etruscan context. What is the difficulty here???

The closest MODERN population is Lombards according to K12b, but the area generally might be described as northwestern Italy as should be clear to anyone who looked at the Antonio et al PCA.
Nlops9w.png

My match with it:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.61917356[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

To reiterate for those who have forgotten, these "modern" results are from a list mistakenly claimed to be from an academic paper but actually the product of samples compiled by this "Sizzi".

Results should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

Using the original Dodecad:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]5.24512154[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.03976368[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]8.21257572[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8D00, align: right"]10.85773457[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7200, align: right"]11.64063572[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6400, align: right"]12.06155048[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6100, align: right"]12.15138675[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5500, align: right"]12.49035628[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4D00, align: right"]12.74874111[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4900, align: right"]12.84337962[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4300, align: right"]13.02558636[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1800, align: right"]14.29485922[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.48704249[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.48716673[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0E00, align: right"]14.59809577[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.02812031[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.03589040[/TD]
[TD]Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0004, align: right"]15.10769340[/TD]
[TD]Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0021, align: right"]15.97660790[/TD]
[TD]Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0036, align: right"]16.59626464[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0063, align: right"]17.91761982[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CB, align: right"]20.96794697[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00DF, align: right"]21.55915815[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8A00FF, align: right"]25.93064596[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8100FF, align: right"]26.20529908[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.61917356[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

As usual, the original dodecad result is congruent with the findings of the academic paper, i.e. Etruscans are between Northern Italians and Iberians.
 
Angela said:
Stop making up your own idiosyncratic definitions for these samples. Neither is "Sizzi" an unimpeachable source. From what I've read at his site he doesn't even know that the people with one of the largest proportions of Anatolia Neolithic are Northern Italians.

This sample is an Etruscan, buried in an Etruscan context. What is the difficulty here???

The closest MODERN population is Lombards according to K12b, but the area generally might be described as northwestern Italy as should be clear to anyone who looked at the Antonio et al PCA.
Nlops9w.png

My match with it:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.61917356[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

To reiterate for those who have forgotten, these "modern" results are from a list mistakenly claimed to be from an academic paper but actually the product of samples compiled by this "Sizzi".

Results should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

Using the original Dodecad:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]5.24512154[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.03976368[/TD]
[TD]N_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]8.21257572[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8D00, align: right"]10.85773457[/TD]
[TD]Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7200, align: right"]11.64063572[/TD]
[TD]Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6400, align: right"]12.06155048[/TD]
[TD]Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6100, align: right"]12.15138675[/TD]
[TD]Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5500, align: right"]12.49035628[/TD]
[TD]TSI30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4D00, align: right"]12.74874111[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4900, align: right"]12.84337962[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4300, align: right"]13.02558636[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1800, align: right"]14.29485922[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.48704249[/TD]
[TD]Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1100, align: right"]14.48716673[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0E00, align: right"]14.59809577[/TD]
[TD]Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.02812031[/TD]
[TD]Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]15.03589040[/TD]
[TD]Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0004, align: right"]15.10769340[/TD]
[TD]Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0021, align: right"]15.97660790[/TD]
[TD]Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0036, align: right"]16.59626464[/TD]
[TD]O_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0063, align: right"]17.91761982[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CB, align: right"]20.96794697[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00DF, align: right"]21.55915815[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8A00FF, align: right"]25.93064596[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8100FF, align: right"]26.20529908[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.61917356[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

As usual, the original dodecad result is congruent with the findings of the academic paper, i.e. Etruscans are between Northern Italians and Iberians.
Click to expand...

to test yout theory

here is R1 with original dodecad

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3.19263925[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4.59394558[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4.79243154[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.36235312[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.41730100[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.48928753[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.14541374[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.75545261[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.93031835[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7.40857611[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7.51609606[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_North[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7.76251248[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_Kosovo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.03419075[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.25871769[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.51680265[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.77139620[/TD]
[TD]France_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.04893352[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.06029880[/TD]
[TD]Romanians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.41974708[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.87357841[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.83403101[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.98590263[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.35866553[/TD]
[TD]Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.81695528[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.20153028[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


similar to the above



[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]92.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]5.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Albanian_Kosovo[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]2.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Albanian_North[/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
Distance: 1.7286% / 1.72862196 | ADC: 0.5x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]80.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]9.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Albanian_North[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]8.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Albanian_Kosovo[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Nganassan[/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
Distance: 0.9911% / 0.99106208 | ADC: 0.25x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]83.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Albanian_North[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]3.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek[/TD]

Target: R1____Iron_Age_____Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
Distance: 3.1926% / 3.19263925 | ADC: 2x

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]100.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Veneto[/TD]



which is better post #5 or this for sample R1 ?
 
Salento said:
I’m more Medieval than Modern:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]LUPIAE[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #54FF00, align: right"]2.49000000[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5EFF00, align: right"]2.78107893[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #73FF00, align: right"]3.39329162[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Rs Top 10
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]LUPIAE[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #54FF00, align: right"]2.49000000[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5EFF00, align: right"]2.78107893[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9DFF00, align: right"]4.62665106[/TD]
[TD]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9FFF00, align: right"]4.66386106[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A1FF00, align: right"]4.74364838[/TD]
[TD]R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A6FF00, align: right"]4.88130106[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A7FF00, align: right"]4.90240757[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ACFF00, align: right"]5.04985148[/TD]
[TD]R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AEFF00, align: right"]5.10057840[/TD]
[TD]R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.45748110[/TD]
[TD]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Click to expand...

Damn Salento go back to your own time and quit messing around with time travel!:grin:
 
if I leave in the Sardinians, Spanish, french and Albanians ....the results for R1015 are

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(46.03313279690697, 100%, 50%)"]9.24585840[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(36.22477215787474, 100%, 50%)"]10.47190348[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(35.2448662085889, 100%, 50%)"]10.59439172[/TD]
[TD]France_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(34.628945371865086, 100%, 50%)"]10.67138183[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(29.412248032308483, 100%, 50%)"]11.32346900[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(28.371633733652104, 100%, 50%)"]11.45354578[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(22.758205991884665, 100%, 50%)"]12.15522425[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(21.158654804783225, 100%, 50%)"]12.35516815[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(20.1258739725168, 100%, 50%)"]12.48426575[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(19.831275140391284, 100%, 50%)"]12.52109061[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(17.252963059755345, 100%, 50%)"]12.84337962[/TD]
[TD]Spaniards[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(5.641126273471897, 100%, 50%)"]14.29485922[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-1.1297052914767107, 100%, 50%)"]15.14121316[/TD]
[TD]Italy_FriuliVG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-1.4769904138228185, 100%, 50%)"]15.18462380[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-23.42241900065696, 100%, 50%)"]17.92780238[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-29.669499150628553, 100%, 50%)"]18.70868739[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-44.6838231278349, 100%, 50%)"]20.58547789[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_North[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-45.69848279329537, 100%, 50%)"]20.71231035[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_Kosovo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-47.743575733915975, 100%, 50%)"]20.96794697[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-52.47326517463509, 100%, 50%)"]21.55915815[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-69.36515509163766, 100%, 50%)"]23.67064439[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-84.80107280969011, 100%, 50%)"]25.60013410[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-87.4451676949839, 100%, 50%)"]25.93064596[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-89.29713813619145, 100%, 50%)"]26.16214227[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(-91.28378413877385, 100%, 50%)"]26.41047302[/TD]
[TD]Italy_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]



Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 5.5356% / 5.53559013 | ADC: 1x
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]51.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]28.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Spaniards[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]20.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 3.8825% / 3.88254771 | ADC: 0.5x
[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]57.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Italy_Lombardy[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]23.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Spaniards[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]11.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]8.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Sardinian[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: R1015_Iron_Age_____Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia
Distance: 2.1920% / 2.19198126 | ADC: 0.25x
[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]67.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]20.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Sardinian[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]8.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]France_Corsica[/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]3.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Spanish[/TD]
 
If these coordinates of modern Italians included in the updated DODECAD K12b spreadsheet were produced by the “Sizzi” that writes in link below, they must be disregarded.

https://ilsizzi.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/il-dna-autosomico-europeo/

The man is a racist. This is his conclusion of the "article" contained in the referred link:

“[FONT=&quot]Le distanze genetiche delimitano popoli, etnie, subrazze e razze, alla faccia di chi continua a ripetere come un disco rotto che le razze non esistono. Pensate anche solo alla biodiversità italiana, dove il gruppo settentrionale è ben distinto sia da quello toscano e centrale che da quello meridionale, soprattutto. Quanto basta per poter parlare di gruppi etnici differenti. Figuratevi se dovessimo parlare di gruppi razziali.”

Racists are sick people who should not be given credibility or a platform to spread their absurd ideas.[/FONT]
 
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