Where did haplogroup T first originate

Where did haplogroup T first originate

  • The levantine coast (Lebanon, Israel,Jordan)

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • The Persian gulf region ( southwestern Iran)

    Votes: 11 34.4%
  • The pamir knot (Afghanistan/Tajikistan) frontier

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • By the Red Sea (Saudi Arabian coast.)

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32
DYS 393 : 13 , DYS 390 : 22, DYS 19 : 14 , maybe not in the topic, but can someone explain what that means?
 
T haplogroup is dravidian?
 
T haplogroup is dravidian?

yes, A small branch from east India ...a migrational branch ...............the Haplogroup would be also part aryan and zorastrian IMO
 
During the Greek invasion of the Middle East against the Persian empire, many Babylonians (carriers of haplogroup T) fled to the Horn of Africa & India, while others who fought as mercenaries for the Persians and others who cooperated with the Persians were enslaved in Greece and the Balkans. That's why your map of haplogroup T looks as it is. A good knowledge of history helps you understand.
This is the true history that nobody will ever tell you!
 
During the Greek invasion of the Middle East against the Persian empire, many Babylonians (carriers of haplogroup T) fled to the Horn of Africa & India, while others who fought as mercenaries for the Persians and others who cooperated with the Persians were enslaved in Greece and the Balkans. That's why your map of haplogroup T looks as it is. A good knowledge of history helps you understand.
This is the true history that nobody will ever tell you!

You can’t claim that:
“This is the true history that nobody will ever tell you!”
without providing Links to reliable Studies.
Until then, all that you said means absolutely ZERO.
 
You can’t claim that:
“This is the true history that nobody will ever tell you!”
without providing Links to reliable Studies.
Until then, all that you said means absolutely ZERO.

agree

do you have anything on this T sample

R1543
mtDNA: H1e
Y-DNA: T-Z709
 
do you have anything on this T sample

R1543
mtDNA: H1e
Y-DNA: T-Z709

Jovialis posted R1543 Dodecad K12 numbers.
Look below: You can run it with vahaduo

R1543,8.61,0,6.43,0,21.01,9.18,0.27,0.24,15.01,0.04,39.07,0.15

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/


Imperial Necropolis of Monte Agnese
R1543 (200 AD) Culture Roman:

... The necropolis of Mazzano Romano, on Monte Agnese, is located about 50 Km north of Rome on the border with the Province of Viterbo and dates from the Roman imperial period. The chamber tomb has revealed the remains of 20 individuals, 16 of which are adults ...
 
@ Salento

I match the Wels sample


I also match the same in YHRD which I did 2 years ago

Can you check the numbers for this sample ?





 
@ Salento
I match the Wels sample
I also match the same in YHRD which I did 2 years ago
Can you check the numbers for this sample ?


… The file I downloaded was too small, … I’ll look for a better file.
 
@Salento
If the french reddish part is form Vosges Grand Est ...........then clearly this sample fits me very well
 
@Salento
If the french reddish part is form Vosges Grand Est ...........then clearly this sample fits me very well

Project: PRJEB52852 says: "WARNING: DO NOT use the "MAPPED" Runs ..." I guess all .Bam processed results may be faulty.

They're trying to fix them.

... "All the "RAW" Runs are OK to use! We apologize for the inconvenience, and will remove this message once the issue is resolved"...


https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB52852?show=reads
 
@Torzio ... this result could change, ... and as the mapped files are still faulty, I mapped an unmapped raw, … y could be R1b ... and mt U5b2a2a1

Code:
R10665_Dodecad_K12b,6.98,1.96,0,0,33.96,28.08,1.40,0.32,7.81,0,19.49,0.01

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R10665_Dodecad_K12b[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8AFF00, align: right"]4.05566271[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Friuli_VG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C4FF00, align: right"]5.76662813[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]5.93342228[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]6.47427216[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]7.45494886[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
@Torzio ... this result could change, ... and as the mapped files are still faulty, I mapped an unmapped raw, … y could be R1b ... and mt U5b2a2a1

Code:
R10665_Dodecad_K12b,6.98,1.96,0,0,33.96,28.08,1.40,0.32,7.81,0,19.49,0.01

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]R10665_Dodecad_K12b[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8AFF00, align: right"]4.05566271[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Friuli_VG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C4FF00, align: right"]5.76662813[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]5.93342228[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]6.47427216[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FDFF00, align: right"]7.45494886[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


thanks...admixture fits my father mix and mine
 

Old theory

new theory .............added that T split into 3 groups on the southern caspian sea area
 
as of post #116

the 2019 paper states that T-M184 ydna was only ever north of the Zargos mountains and never south of it at this stage ................theory is that this Ydna was in Azeri lands on the caspian sea or just south of these lands .................M184 split into 3 group 13500 years ago....T1a1, T1a2 and T1a3

The other noted markers on the attached book looks fine as per studies
 
Surely same as G haplogroup.
 
Surely same as G haplogroup.
G haplogroup is not part of Haplogroup K-M9 of which T ydna is part of
Also part of K-M9 is haplogroups R1a, R1b, N, O and L ..................they are all "cousins"

G looks more Middle-East
 
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