What is origin R1b-S8172?

[hapiness15]

What is location origin R-S8172? and who probably did spread this haplo? I can't find any information about this haplo , Y-Tree look most shifted to north than italy , i don't know why

 

[Wōden98]

What is location origin R-S8172? and who probably did spread this haplo? I can't find any information about this haplo , Y-Tree look most shifted to north than italy , i don't know why

Hello Happiness, I am also R-S8172. If you wish to converse, we can.

I too have interest in this group, as it seems rare and is Far downstream, not to mention the parent haplogroup being found in Scandinavia.

That said, I am NW European and majority English, and Scottish. My Maternal ancestors were from Orkney, and I'm U5b1 MtDNA wise. Ancestry and 23nMe read differently, but only slightly.

Attached below are my G25 calcs, and DNA results. I am mostly of Western Steppe Herder aDNA admixture and throughly Celto-Germanic. I am a Bathory fan (Black/Viking Metal band, Hægl Quorthon!) So excuse my username, which I'd a reference to a Bathory song from the Album "Twilight of the Gods"

I only dump this information as I have work later, and need to sleep soon thus I may be awhile getting back to you.

Good day, Cousin. For sure, but how? Maybe very far removed as I have no Southern European, not recently anyhow. Though, I've had ZERO luck tracing where my Paternal lineage came from, as the records hit a wall at my 5th GGF. So, who knows. More than likely, based upon my Surname and DNA admixture, they came from England. I've always assumed my Iron age ancestors were either Belgae, who may have brought this Y DNA to the isles (as they did settle in Southern England) or possibly even Germanic people who picked it up via admixture with local Celtic populations.

 

[hapiness15]

Hello Happiness, I am also R-S8172. If you wish to converse, we can.

I too have interest in this group, as it seems rare and is Far downstream, not to mention the parent haplogroup being found in Scandinavia.

That said, I am NW European and majority English, and Scottish. My Maternal ancestors were from Orkney, and I'm U5b1 MtDNA wise. Ancestry and 23nMe read differently, but only slightly.

Attached below are my G25 calcs, and DNA results. I am mostly of Western Steppe Herder aDNA admixture and throughly Celto-Germanic. I am a Bathory fan (Black/Viking Metal band, Hægl Quorthon!) So excuse my username, which I'd a reference to a Bathory song from the Album "Twilight of the Gods"

I only dump this information as I have work later, and need to sleep soon thus I may be awhile getting back to you.

Good day, Cousin. For sure, but how? Maybe very far removed as I have no Southern European, not recently anyhow. Though, I've had ZERO luck tracing where my Paternal lineage came from, as the records hit a wall at my 5th GGF. So, who knows. More than likely, based upon my Surname and DNA admixture, they came from England. I've always assumed my Iron age ancestors were either Belgae, who may have brought this Y DNA to the isles (as they did settle in Southern England) or possibly even Germanic people who picked it up via admixture with local Celtic populations.

As far as I researched, the major haplogroup our R-Z49 seems to have been born in the north of the Alps +- 2400 BCE and at some point they spread to various parts of the continent, a part of R-S8183 is very common in ancient venetii tribes, very common in northeast Italy, Slovenia, Croatia but other subclades of R-S8183 seem to have spread further north, this subclade seems to be complex to analyze as it is found in various parts of the continent