The diverse genetic origins of a Classical period Greek army

[Er Monnezza]

^the latter PCA perfectly shows the mixed Sicilian-Greek cluster.

 

[D.L.M]

Greeks in Italy seem to be more "conservative" genetically in comparison with Carthaginians. The bulk of the samples seem to be fully Greek and a proportion seems to be in between Sicanians.

It's clear to see that the colonization was not heavily male-biased. Many or most of the men came with women. The population of the cities grew very large, if most men had not come with women it would not make sense.


Carthaginians in Sardinia seem to be at least 50% native.

 

[Angela]

My results from the Himera sample:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Angela[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.72768010[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8.84477247[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med:I20163[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.24968108[/TD]
[TD]Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med:I7223[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9.61541471[/TD]
[TD]Baucina_MtFalcone_Sicani_Med_lc:I13128[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.07039225[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13376[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]10.64036654[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10950[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.48748885[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13391[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]11.96608541[/TD]
[TD]Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med:I7224[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]12.54354814[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13392[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.02239225[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13379[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.37797444[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13390[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.51600903[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13387[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]13.66643699[/TD]
[TD]Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med:I7225[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.01006424[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc:I17870[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.18050070[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13381[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.19401634[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13395[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.32944870[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13382[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.54101097[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13384[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.75138977[/TD]
[TD]Baucina_MtFalcone_Sicani_Med:I13125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]14.99513588[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I7218[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.02451663[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I7217[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.09980132[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.11542590[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13383[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.12952412[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13386[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.13336050[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13380[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.22054204[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13394[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.35309741[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13393[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.63564517[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13377[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.77139816[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I10948[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]15.90871145[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13385[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.16957637[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I10952[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.28912521[/TD]
[TD]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13378[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.79834218[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc:I20162[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]16.81956301[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I10945[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]18.57782549[/TD]
[TD]Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med:I17866[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]19.77844787[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I7219[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]20.44258301[/TD]
[TD]Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med_lc:I17884[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]21.84456912[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc:I20160[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]22.55855492[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med:I20166[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]22.83734223[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc:I17881[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]24.53851055[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc:I17887[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]24.62798408[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I7221[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]24.89996386[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc:I20167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]26.15365940[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med:I20161[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]27.64459260[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc:I17879[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]28.28553340[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med:I17432[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]29.71149104[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc:I17878[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]30.91633711[/TD]
[TD]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med:I20168[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]39.45401754[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Eurasian-Steppe:I10947[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]39.65591759[/TD]
[TD]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Caucasus_lc:I17872[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Going by this, the Sicani were quite different from the inhabitants of the Greek colony of Himera.

I wish I could cross check the first six relatively close samples with the isotopic study, but I think the sample numbers are different. I'm not denying that they could all be from somewhere further north than Greece in the Balkans, ike MKD or MNE, since my matches with Bronze and Iron Age samples from there are quite good, but given we don't have very many samples of a similar age from Northern and Central Italy, I wonder if that's also a possibility?

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Angela
Distance: 0.3543% / 0.35434401[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]39.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]27.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Polizzello_Sicani_Med[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]21.9[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Himera_480_BC_Battle_NE-Europe[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc[/TD]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Angela[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.64665253[/TD]
[TD]74.60% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 25.40% Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc:I17887[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.86805109[/TD]
[TD]64.60% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 35.40% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13393[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.90797210[/TD]
[TD]64.40% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 35.60% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13380[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.91086451[/TD]
[TD]61.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 38.20% Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med:I7225[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2.94301003[/TD]
[TD]46.20% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I10952 + 53.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc:I17870[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.00824595[/TD]
[TD]58.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc:I17870 + 41.20% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I7219[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.04963808[/TD]
[TD]63.40% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 36.60% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13384[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.10720701[/TD]
[TD]64.40% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 35.60% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13383[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.14008340[/TD]
[TD]64.60% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 35.40% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13386[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.16071546[/TD]
[TD]66.20% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 33.80% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13378[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.25054704[/TD]
[TD]65.40% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 34.60% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13377[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.31381741[/TD]
[TD]20.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Eurasian_Steppe_dup_of_I10949:I10944 + 79.20% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13391[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.31381741[/TD]
[TD]20.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_NE-Europe_dup_of_I10944:I10949 + 79.20% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13391[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.32488366[/TD]
[TD]45.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc:I17870 + 54.20% Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med:I7224[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.37073180[/TD]
[TD]45.20% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I10945 + 54.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc:I17870[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.42529481[/TD]
[TD]57.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 42.20% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13391[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.42531651[/TD]
[TD]61.00% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 39.00% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13379[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.46209088[/TD]
[TD]66.00% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 34.00% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13385[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.51847015[/TD]
[TD]61.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 38.20% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13390[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.52419275[/TD]
[TD]63.20% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 36.80% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13381[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.53083930[/TD]
[TD]32.60% Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med:I17432 + 67.40% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc:I17870[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.53289520[/TD]
[TD]54.20% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 45.80% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13376[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.57121760[/TD]
[TD]64.20% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc:I17870 + 35.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med:I7221[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.57217676[/TD]
[TD]23.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_NE-Europe:I10943 + 76.20% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13380[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3.60346117[/TD]
[TD]64.80% Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946 + 35.20% Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Again, the Sicani are quite different from the Greek colonists.

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Angela
Distance: 0.3543% / 0.35434401[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]39.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_W-Europe_lc[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]27.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Polizzello_Sicani_Med[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]21.9[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Himera_480_BC_Battle_NE-Europe[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med_lc[/TD]

This PCA puts the results in perspective. Also, look at the difference between the Bronze Age and Iron Age Bulgarian. The Iron Age one is, I believe, the E-V13 carrying one, yes?

 

[Angela]

Around Greeks but slightly more shifted toward Italy, I guess? If you have an average give it to me so I can add it.

It was included in PCAs, so it must be available, so I'll try to find it.

They were not included because they are low coverage samples.

Well, you included all the low coverage Mycenaean samples, so why not the low coverage Minoan samples? From the PCA including both the Mycenaean and Minoan low coverage samples, the Ogititria Minoan samples draw much closer to the Himera samples.

Why should it? XD

I would think that would be obvious. We have Greek colonists in Sicily. It wouldn't be informative to see how they compare to a Greek colonist in the Northern Mediterranean? We're not exactly swimming in Greek samples from the Iron Age and Classical World. Maybe the sample from Attica would be informative too, to see if the Greeks "did" get more "eastern" after the Iron Age and Classical period.

In this PCA I have included all new samples (excluding Caucasian, Eurasian, and Northeast European for better visualization) plus Minoans, Mycenaeans and Empuries.

Without low coverage samples

In a separate post you state that your PCA shows the "mixed" nature of the samples. Am I missing something here? I don't see that at all in the PCA of the samples without the low resolution ones. It shows remarkably Mycenaean like and Empuries like soldiers. Now, you'd have to know their isotope values to know if these were local hoplites, but given that some of the civilian populace also comes out Mycenaean like, I think it's a pretty good bet that they're locals.

There were no normal resolution samples from Himera residents? At least one seems more "northern", but according to the paper on the isotopes, the majority of the residents were raised near there, although they could be the children of migrants.

The Sicani are quite removed. I'm going to look up the samples in between.

 

[Angela]

Greeks in Italy seem to be more "conservative" genetically in comparison with Carthaginians. The bulk of the samples seem to be fully Greek and a proportion seems to be in between Sicanians.

It's clear to see that the colonization was not heavily male-biased. Many or most of the men came with women. The population of the cities grew very large, if most men had not come with women it would not make sense.


Carthaginians in Sardinia seem to be at least 50% native.

If you'll recall, based on my readings about the Phoenician trading empire, I've said for years that the Phoenician/Carthaginian outposts were trading marts and perhaps attached farms run by men. They would have mated with locals, diluting the "Levantine" or "North African" signal. Their armies were almost all mercenaries, many from Spain and northern Italy. In addition to the fact that many of them would just die or leave, the signal they "might" leave would be that of the "home" area of the mercenaries.

That brought nothing but derision, because for their own reasons many in the amateur community were determined to find a lot of "Levantine" in Italy, and the Phoenicians/Carthaginians were supposed to be a big part of that.

As for the Greeks, it's a mixed bag. There is documentary evidence about young men being sent to establish colonies. However, that wouldn't necessarily be the case in every area. The Empuries sample seems fully Greek, so they must have brought their own women with them. On the other hand, the colonists in Asia Minor seem to have married local women. Even if the colony was started by young men, women from the home polis might have arrived later.

At any rate, it's always been clear that change in genome for an area requires folk migration. The Phoenicians were traders. There was no folk migration involved. The Greeks were different. Their rocky home couldn't support them. There was mass migration out, which did indeed affect the colonial areas.

 

[D.L.M]

It's crazy how Empuries fits right in the middle of the cluster nearly 100% identical with the average. Very good luck that scientists got those 2 samples pretty early.
Some Mycenaeans seem even closer to Aegean Islanders (more Southern) than to Southern Italians but similarly in a "western direction". I think the lack of the samples to show all the genetic variation is inflating the Anatolian admixture by 10% in for example Cretans. Sometimes Cretans come up as more Anatolian than Greek.

Also look from how far some people have come. This could be lesson to not look at solely West Anatolia but beyond that when we discuss eastern shifts occurring in the Iron Age.

 

[Palermo Trapani]

It's crazy how Empuries fits right in the middle of the cluster nearly 100% identical with the average. Very good luck that scientists got those 2 samples pretty early.
Some Mycenaeans seem even closer to Aegean Islanders (more Southern) than to Southern Italians but similarly in a "western direction". I think the lack of the samples to show all the genetic variation is inflating the Anatolian admixture by 10% in for example Cretans. Sometimes Cretans come up as more Anatolian than Greek.

Also look from how far some people have come. This could be lesson to not look at solely West Anatolia but beyond that when we discuss eastern shifts occurring in the Iron Age.

This paper is now the 3rd recent one on ancient Italian DNA that has documented an Iranian_Neolithic signal that seems independent of any Steppe Admixture that came into Italy and Sicily which has been typically modeled as EHG+CHG. CHG and Iran_Neo being highly related/similar in terms of genetic profile. The Antonio et al 2019 (ancient Lazio/Rome) paper and the Fernandes et al 2020 paper (Steppe and Iranian ancestry) dealing with Bronze Age Sardinia and Sicily.

I think perhaps looking towards Iran and Iran_Neolithic related ancestry is one place to look beyond West Anatolia when trying to document more eastern shifts that you are alluding to. Again, we have 3 papers now in the extant literature that document an Iranian_Neo signal independent of Steppe admixture that had CHG/Iran_Neo type ancestry.

 

[Angela]

Around Greeks but slightly more shifted toward Italy, I guess? If you have an average give it to me so I can add it.

They were not included because they are low coverage samples.

Well, you included other low coverage samples like some of the Mycenaeans, so why not low coverage Minoan samples?

Why should it? XD

We're not exactly swimming in Classical Era Greek samples. We have Greek colonists in Sicily. You don't think it would be informative to see how they compare to a Greek colonist on the coast of Spain, especially since the authors say some of the mercenaries might have come from there?

In this PCA I have included all new samples (excluding Caucasian, Eurasian, and Northeast European for better visualization) plus Minoans, Mycenaeans and Empuries.

It would be helpful to see all the Southern Arc samples, imo.

 

[Er Monnezza]

In a separate post you state that your PCA shows the "mixed" nature of the samples. Am I missing something here? I don't see that at all in the PCA of the samples without the low resolution ones. It shows remarkably Mycenaean like and Empuries like soldiers.

I was referring to "Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med" and the northern end of the "Himera_480_BC_Battle_Med" clusters, which are halfway between IA Sicilians and Mycenaeans although they are few samples overall.

There were no normal resolution samples from Himera residents?

If you look closely there is only 1 of good coverage in the PCA, it falls in the southern end of the Mycenaean cluster near "Sephardic_Jew".

This PCA puts the results in perspective. Also, look at the difference between the Bronze Age and Iron Age Bulgarian. The Iron Age one is, I believe, the E-V13 carrying one, yes?

I5769 is a female. By the way, the plot in addition to being old was done with Eurogenes K15, a calculator that I personally do not recommend (Eurogenes K13 is better).

 

[Er Monnezza]

Well, you included other low coverage samples like some of the Mycenaeans, so why not low coverage Minoan samples?

In the first PCA I posted in this thread I used only Sicilian samples, not Mycenaeans. I've only put the Mycenaeans (both good and bad coverage) in those 2 new ones I posted a few hours ago.

It would be helpful to see all the Southern Arc samples, imo.

I may post it later but it will be a mess to visualize, it is too many samples.

 

[Just_a_Common_Guy]

I think Lazaridis is right about the genetic continuity between the Mycenaeans and the Classical Greeks.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...he_Genomic_Formation_of_Modern_Balkan_Peoples

View attachment 13612

 

[Salento]

@Salento,

Were the new HO modern samples for Greece and Italy made available too? If so, I think it would be great to have those as well. Sorry to make to be making requests like that, but it would be much appreciated.

I did not find a downloadable geno-data link for the new Greece and Italy modern samples.
Listing the new samples below, and if anyone knows how to locate them, please lets us know.

... by Alessandro Achilli, Anna Olivieri, Hovirag Lancioni:

[TABLE="width: 707"]
[TR]
[TD]VT035[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Bolsena (VT) / Northern Latium[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG722[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Fabriano (AN) / Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG470[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Ascoli Piceno (AP) / Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG739[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Ca' De Cio (AR) / Southern Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG128[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Perugia Case Nuove (PG) / Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG734[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Perugia (PG) / Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_477[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Bettolle (SI) / Southern Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG720[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Ascoli Piceno (AP) / Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_625[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Perugia (PG) / Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG775[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Perugia Stazione (PG) / Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_642[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Cupramontana (AN) / Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG723[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Perugia Montegrillo (PG) / Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_639[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Arezzo (AR) / Southern Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_242[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Castiglion Fiorentino (AR) / Southern Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_647[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Chiusi (SI) / Southern Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG731[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Central[/TD]
[TD]Montepulciano (SI) / Southern Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP211[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Modena (MO) / Emilia-Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP156[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Piacenza (PC) / Emilia-Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP202[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Bassano del Grappa (VI) / Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP278[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Borgonovo Val Tidone (PC) / Emilia-Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP134[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Cremona(CR) / Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP603[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Vernate (MI) / Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP533[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Torino (TO) / Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP67[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Borgo Val di Taro (PR) / Emilia-Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP392[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Busseto (PR) / Emilia-Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP68[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Alessandria (AL) / Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP73[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Cuneo (CN) / Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP108[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Treviso (TV) / Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP342[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Parma (PR) / Emilia-Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP277[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Domodossola (VB) / Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP481[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Sappada (BL) / Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP28[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Ferrara (FE) / Emilia-Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP76[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Bergamo (BG) / Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nei27[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Nogarè (TN) / Trentino-Alto Adige[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nei18[/TD]
[TD]Italian_North[/TD]
[TD]Taio (TN) / Trentino-Alto Adige[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP597[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Cetraro (CS) / Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP129[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Reggio Calabria (RC) / Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG46[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Martano (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG12[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Soleto (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG20[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Calimera (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_398[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Lamezia Terme (CZ) / Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG37[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Soleto (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NaN129RT[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Portici (NA) / Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_699[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Mileto (VV) / Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG33[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Sternatia (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PG2012_424[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Amendolara (CS) / Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG74[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Zollino (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ALP374[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Benevento (BN) / Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG28[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Martano (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG58[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Martano (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG17[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Soleto (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PuG66[/TD]
[TD]Italian_South[/TD]
[TD]Zollino (LE) / Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

... by George Stamatoyannopoulos:

[TABLE="width: 433"]
[TR]
[TD]AHA15[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Lefkasio/Ahaia/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ARG1[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Argos/Argolida/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ARK3[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Perdikoneri/Messenia/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ARK19[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Palaiohori/Arkadia/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CYCL1[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Koumaros/Cyclades/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CYCL2[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Amorgos/Cyclades/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CYCL3[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Amorgos/Cyclades/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CYCL12[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Tarampados/Cyclades/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CYCL16[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Triovasalos/Cyclades/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CYCL19[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Milos/Cyclades/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CYCL22[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Kea/Cyclades/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CYCL23[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Kea/Cyclades/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DOD1[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Paradisi/Dodecanese/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DOD2[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Lardos/Dodecanese/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DOD3[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Laerma/Dodecanese/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DOD4[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Archagelos/Dodecanese/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DOD5[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Malonas/Dodecanese/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DOD6[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Vati/Dodecanese/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DOD7[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Rodos/Dodecanese/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]IL4[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Douneika/Aitolokarnania/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]IL21[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Skliros/Messenia/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]KOR42[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Kariotika/Korinthia/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]LAK8[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Neapoli/Laconia/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAK103[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Hortiatis/Thessaloniki/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAK118[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Epanomi/Thessaloniki/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAK127[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Kassandrino/Halkidiki/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAK147[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Nikisiani/Kavala/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAK175[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Palaiohori/Halkidiki/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAK196[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Parthenonas/Halkidiki/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAK249[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Poroi/Pieria/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MAK337[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Doxato/Drama/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MES19[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Filiatra/Messenia/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]MES32[/TD]
[TD]Greek[/TD]
[TD]Kyparissia/Messenia/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_AN_18[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Ano Horio/Lasithi/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_AV_28[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Agios Thomas/Heraklion/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_IER_20[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Christos/Lasithi/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_KAN_18[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Kandanos/Chania/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_KIS_27[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Kalathenes/Chania/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_MOI_17[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Zaros/Heraklion/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_NE_11[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Vrachasi/Lasithi/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_SIT_4[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Papayannades/Lasithi/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_SIT_8[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Ziros/Lasithi/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_TZ_10[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Tzermiado/Lasithi/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]CRE_VIA_25[/TD]
[TD]Cretan[/TD]
[TD]Vianos/Heraklion/Greek[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[bigsnake49]

I am surprised that there are no samples from Thrace and pretty much nothing from Epiros and western Macedonia and Ionian Islands.

 

[Salento]

I am surprised that there are no samples from Thrace and pretty much nothing from Epiros and western Macedonia and Ionian Islands.

those are just the new modern samples, … they also used modern samples from 2019, 2014, 2012, … that we already have.

 

[bigsnake49]

those are just the new modern samples, … they also used modern samples from 2019, 2014, 2012, … that we already have.

Ah, thanks @Salento

 

[Angela]

Sicani sample:

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389
Distance: 361.6772% / 3.61677183
[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]78.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Sardinian[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Icaria[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]5.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Pontus[/TD]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #72FF00, align: right"]3.36640758[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15621[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A6FF00, align: right"]4.88876262[/TD]
[TD]BGR_MalakPreslavets_N:I1295[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B0FF00, align: right"]5.18474686[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14160[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B6FF00, align: right"]5.34237775[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N:I17981[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.48140493[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7137[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BCFF00, align: right"]5.51490707[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I20806[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.08691219[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I20810[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D1FF00, align: right"]6.13828152[/TD]
[TD]BGR_MalakPreslavets_N:I2216[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.24502202[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL_sister.I7133:I15622[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.26147746[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18116[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.33943215[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15616[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]6.79711704[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15618[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]7.08920306[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7131[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]7.10983825[/TD]
[TD]HRV_GornjaVrba_MN:I18827[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]7.35034013[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15620[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF800, align: right"]7.71698128[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7133[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]7.86775063[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7130[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.89919616[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7127[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.90011392[/TD]
[TD]ROU_N_outlier1:I7126[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.08182529[/TD]
[TD]SRB_ChLBA:I17914[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]8.10894568[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18115[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.37196512[/TD]
[TD]SRB_ChLBA:I17915[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.58949940[/TD]
[TD]CYP_PPNB:I4207[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]8.64190951[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_Chl_possible.dup.I18154_1d.rel.I7137:I18117_d[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]8.66002309[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14162[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

It's looking more likely to me that the Sicani were probably autochthonous, and the ancient writers got it wrong, AGAIN, about the source of the ancient Italian populations.

These people look mainly European farmer like, maybe 75% Anatolian Neolithic, and some WHG, and then maybe some steppe and/or Iran Neo, so definitely Southern European like, but not Mycenaean Greek like or Greek colonist like.

Of course, different tribes in different parts of Sicily and then mainland Italy itself may be different.

We'll have to analyze the samples more carefully once we know we have the official versions.
I

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389
Distance: 361.6772% / 3.61677183
[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]78.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Sardinian[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Icaria[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]5.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Pontus[/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389
Distance: 361.6772% / 3.61677183
[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]78.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Sardinian[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Icaria[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]5.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Pontus[/TD]

 

[Angela]

Sicani sample:

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389
Distance: 361.6772% / 3.61677183[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]78.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Sardinian[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Icaria[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]5.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Pontus[/TD]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #72FF00, align: right"]3.36640758[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15621[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A6FF00, align: right"]4.88876262[/TD]
[TD]BGR_MalakPreslavets_N:I1295[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B0FF00, align: right"]5.18474686[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14160[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B6FF00, align: right"]5.34237775[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N:I17981[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.48140493[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7137[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BCFF00, align: right"]5.51490707[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I20806[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.08691219[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I20810[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D1FF00, align: right"]6.13828152[/TD]
[TD]BGR_MalakPreslavets_N:I2216[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.24502202[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL_sister.I7133:I15622[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.26147746[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18116[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.33943215[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15616[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]6.79711704[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15618[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]7.08920306[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7131[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]7.10983825[/TD]
[TD]HRV_GornjaVrba_MN:I18827[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]7.35034013[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15620[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF800, align: right"]7.71698128[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7133[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]7.86775063[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7130[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.89919616[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7127[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.90011392[/TD]
[TD]ROU_N_outlier1:I7126[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.08182529[/TD]
[TD]SRB_ChLBA:I17914[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]8.10894568[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18115[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.37196512[/TD]
[TD]SRB_ChLBA:I17915[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.58949940[/TD]
[TD]CYP_PPNB:I4207[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]8.64190951[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_Chl_possible.dup.I18154_1d.rel.I7137:I18117_d[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]8.66002309[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14162[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

It's looking more likely to me that the Sicani were probably autochthonous, and the ancient writers got it wrong, AGAIN, about the source of the ancient Italian populations.

These people look mainly European farmer like, maybe 75% Anatolian Neolithic, and some WHG, and then maybe some steppe and/or Iran Neo, so definitely Southern European like, but not Mycenaean Greek like or Greek colonist like.

Of course, different tribes in different parts of Sicily and then mainland Italy itself may be different.

We'll have to analyze the samples more carefully once we know we have the official versions.
I

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389
Distance: 361.6772% / 3.61677183[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]78.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Sardinian[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Icaria[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]5.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Greek_Pontus[/TD]

If not autochthonous, then from mainland Italy. Very close to Sicily Bronze Age samples, but also the closest I've seen later samples come to Central Italian Neolithic. If people like this existed in Sicily in the Iron Age, then why are all the papers about Iron Age Southern Italy only about Italics and Greeks?

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Polizzello_Sicani_Med:I13389[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #67FF00, align: right"]3.03631355[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I10372:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #72FF00, align: right"]3.36640758[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15621[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8DFF00, align: right"]4.15817268[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3878:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A4FF00, align: right"]4.82849873[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I11442:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A6FF00, align: right"]4.88876262[/TD]
[TD]BGR_MalakPreslavets_N:I1295[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B0FF00, align: right"]5.18474686[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14160[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]5.32063906[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I10373:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B6FF00, align: right"]5.34114220[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_LBA_Marcita:I3876:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B6FF00, align: right"]5.34237775[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N:I17981[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]5.40682902[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3123:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.48140493[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7137[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BCFF00, align: right"]5.51490707[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I20806[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.08691219[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I20810[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D0FF00, align: right"]6.11332970[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna:I4065:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D1FF00, align: right"]6.13828152[/TD]
[TD]BGR_MalakPreslavets_N:I2216[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.24502202[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL_sister.I7133:I15622[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.26147746[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18116[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.33943215[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15616[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E7FF00, align: right"]6.79711704[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15618[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]6.94822279[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_MBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I4109:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]7.08920306[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7131[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]7.10983825[/TD]
[TD]HRV_GornjaVrba_MN:I18827[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]7.35034013[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15620[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]7.41258389[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3125:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF800, align: right"]7.71698128[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7133[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF700, align: right"]7.72373614[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian_N:R17:Antonio_2019[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]7.86775063[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7130[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.89919616[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7127[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.90011392[/TD]
[TD]ROU_N_outlier1:I7126[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.94647721[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana:I7807:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.08182529[/TD]
[TD]SRB_ChLBA:I17914[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]8.10894568[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18115[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE300, align: right"]8.32396540[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_EBA_Buffa_Cave_II:I3124:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.37196512[/TD]
[TD]SRB_ChLBA:I17915[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.58949940[/TD]
[TD]CYP_PPNB:I4207[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]8.64190951[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_Chl_possible.dup.I18154_1d.rel.I7137:I18117_d[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]8.66002309[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14162[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCF00, align: right"]8.89807844[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7135[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCF00, align: right"]8.91159918[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL_brother.I11906:I7134[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.12221464[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14166[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]9.31020945[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_EBA_Contrada_Paolina_Castellucciana:I7774_d:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBB00, align: right"]9.50671342[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I15619[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBB00, align: right"]9.50742867[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14165[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB900, align: right"]9.56288659[/TD]
[TD]Sicily_MN_Stretto_Partanna:I4062:Fernandes_2020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.64025933[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Stambolovo_IA:I15844[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.98194871[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA800, align: right"]10.06071568[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N:I11270[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]10.17709192[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I7136[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]10.17715579[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I14159[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]10.18056482[/TD]
[TD]C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Southpaw]

This is my closest match, a soldier described by the authors as a mixture of central and Balkan ancestry.
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]2.93308711[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]3.07253967[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]3.26599143[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]4.01203190[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]4.52730604[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]5.03992187[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]5.26428533[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Friuli_VG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]5.57457622[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]5.90759680[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.14992025[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.46255871[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]9.60735656[/TD]
[TD]French_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]9.83466827[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.21314349[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_Vardar[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.31406806[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.58307139[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_Kosovo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.72228054[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_South[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.87933362[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.30645391[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_Polog[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.36434336[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.42829821[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.50418463[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.63881867[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.68290632[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.83536227[/TD]
[TD]Austrian_Tyrol[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Closest ancient match for it from Southern Arc samples:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Himera_480_BC_Battle_Balkans_Cent-Europe:I10946[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5FFF00, align: right"]2.78644935[/TD]
[TD]HRV_BA:I18712[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #66FF00, align: right"]2.98871210[/TD]
[TD]MNE_LBA:I14498[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6EFF00, align: right"]3.23542887[/TD]
[TD]MNE_LBA:I13172[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #75FF00, align: right"]3.42943144[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Cetina_BA:I18088[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #76FF00, align: right"]3.47201671[/TD]
[TD]ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I16253[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7CFF00, align: right"]3.64773903[/TD]
[TD]MNE_LBA:I13775[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7DFF00, align: right"]3.69039293[/TD]
[TD]SRB_BA:I16803[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #80FF00, align: right"]3.77361895[/TD]
[TD]HRV_BA:I5074[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #89FF00, align: right"]4.03637213[/TD]
[TD]MNE_LBA:I13168[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8CFF00, align: right"]4.12242647[/TD]
[TD]MNE_LBA:I13169[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8CFF00, align: right"]4.12408778[/TD]
[TD]SRB_BA:I17913[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]4.51106418[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I8112[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A9FF00, align: right"]4.98124482[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10384[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]4.99731928[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Cetina_BA:I19027[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ACFF00, align: right"]5.04593896[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Anc_brother.I18831:I18830[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.07790311[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Cetina_BA:I18745[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AEFF00, align: right"]5.10918780[/TD]
[TD]MNE_LBA_brother.I13169_son.or.brother.I13776:I13777[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AEFF00, align: right"]5.12647052[/TD]
[TD]HRV_BA:I5080[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B0FF00, align: right"]5.17966215[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10377[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]5.31776269[/TD]
[TD]HRV_IA:I5729[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]5.42506221[/TD]
[TD]SRB_BA:I17912[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B9FF00, align: right"]5.44027573[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Cetina_BA:I18752[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BDFF00, align: right"]5.54583628[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10383[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BEFF00, align: right"]5.57596628[/TD]
[TD]MNE_LBA:I13171[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BEFF00, align: right"]5.60107133[/TD]
[TD]MNE_LBA:I14501[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Another mercenary probably from outside Greece or even the Greek world:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med:I7223[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.64100124[/TD]
[TD]French_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]12.37324937[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]12.42813679[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]12.43657509[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]12.95873836[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.19374094[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.25838225[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.94157452[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]14.84614765[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]15.66525135[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Molise[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]15.78862249[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]16.13977075[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]16.67125970[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]16.85838664[/TD]
[TD]Sardinian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]17.26569431[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]17.39979885[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.01935071[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Basilicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.02502427[/TD]
[TD]Albanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.39592890[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.47916293[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.50314568[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Athens[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.54495349[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.66551901[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi_Jew[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.74542611[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Central[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]19.42878792[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thrace[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

His closest ancient match:Bulgarian Early Bronze. Don't have time to look up their Admixture. Are they the steppe admixed ones?
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Himera_409_BC_Battle_Med:I7223[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A0FF00, align: right"]4.70157420[/TD]
[TD]BGR_ChL:I2428[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]4.99663887[/TD]
[TD]BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19456[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B1FF00, align: right"]5.20632308[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Stambolovo_IA:I15844[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.26763113[/TD]
[TD]BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19455[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]6.92255733[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13580[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]6.95267574[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19494[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4FF00, align: right"]7.17226603[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20183[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6FF00, align: right"]7.24458418[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18154[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F8FF00, align: right"]7.29233159[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20181[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]7.56946497[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA_father.or.son.I13518:I13506_d[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]7.65461952[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF900, align: right"]7.67619046[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I7233[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.91715858[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18115[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.02812556[/TD]
[TD]BGR_MalakPreslavets_N:I1295[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEC00, align: right"]8.05314845[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N:I17981[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEA00, align: right"]8.12438305[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13428[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD100, align: right"]8.85305597[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10387[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCF00, align: right"]8.91196948[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10390[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCB00, align: right"]9.03008306[/TD]
[TD]BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19451[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]9.16228138[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20186[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC400, align: right"]9.24948107[/TD]
[TD]BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19452[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]9.32417289[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Smyadovo_EBA_contam:I2176[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.48526225[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_Chl_possible.dup.I18154_1d.rel.I7137:I18117_d[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB100, align: right"]9.77989264[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10391[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB100, align: right"]9.79789773[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13579[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

If he's a local hoplite, some good Mycenaean like matches.

My closest Sicani match, far from Himera, so unlikely to be admixed with Greek colonists:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Baucina_MtFalcone_Sicani_Med_lc:I13128[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.87078914[/TD]
[TD]French_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.22172833[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.64501374[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.89294872[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.90777121[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.95357302[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]14.25368373[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]15.13331094[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]15.40216543[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]16.52666331[/TD]
[TD]Sardinian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]17.14383563[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]17.28939270[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Molise[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]17.40661943[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]17.80526888[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]17.81488703[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.64958612[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]18.97385570[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]19.04572655[/TD]
[TD]Albanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]19.64594106[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Basilicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]19.78599505[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Athens[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]20.00009500[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Central[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]20.05098751[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]20.17194091[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]20.21205333[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]20.30590308[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Canarias[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Closest ancient match:Bulgaria early Bronze. Again, given the modern matches, probably the steppe admixed samples.
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Baucina_MtFalcone_Sicani_Med_lc:I13128[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BDFF00, align: right"]5.54622394[/TD]
[TD]BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19456[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.33971608[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Stambolovo_IA:I15844[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FAFF00, align: right"]7.34815623[/TD]
[TD]BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19455[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.53493198[/TD]
[TD]BGR_MalakPreslavets_N:I1295[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.61467005[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18154[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF800, align: right"]7.71061606[/TD]
[TD]BGR_ChL:I2428[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF100, align: right"]7.91028444[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13580[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.07687440[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19494[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE800, align: right"]8.16639455[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_ChL:I18115[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]8.43653365[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20181[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCF00, align: right"]8.92420305[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N:I17981[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]8.96887953[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20183[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC400, align: right"]9.23262693[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.26365479[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I7233[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC000, align: right"]9.34211967[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10387[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAF00, align: right"]9.85924946[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA_father.or.son.I13518:I13506_d[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAC00, align: right"]9.94509930[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10390[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAA00, align: right"]10.00169986[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Smyadovo_EBA_contam:I2176[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA900, align: right"]10.02298359[/TD]
[TD]BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19451[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA700, align: right"]10.08827537[/TD]
[TD]BGR_TellKran_EBA:I19452[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9F00, align: right"]10.31731554[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13428[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9A00, align: right"]10.47995229[/TD]
[TD]ROU_Bodrogkeresztur_Chl_possible.dup.I18154_1d.rel.I7137:I18117_d[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9400, align: right"]10.63376697[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20186[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8F00, align: right"]10.80608162[/TD]
[TD]ROU_N_outlier1:I7126[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8400, align: right"]11.12893077[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10391[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Himera Civilian Population:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med:I20166[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.00146413[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Izmir[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.53941642[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Foca[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.16654150[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Fournoi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.36376112[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Icaria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.52355560[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi_Jew[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.68658161[/TD]
[TD]Moldovan_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.76209450[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]9.00281067[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Athens[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]9.62135645[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]9.82482061[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Lemnos[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.11706973[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Molise[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.17894887[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Central[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.23899409[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.38479658[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]10.73117887[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Kos[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.00641631[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.28183939[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Rhodes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.28560145[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.44035402[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]11.69727319[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Basilicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]12.68192809[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Jew[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]12.96513401[/TD]
[TD]Albanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.13688319[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thessaloniki[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.89746020[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jew[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]13.95732782[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thrace[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

The above sample compared to ancient samples from the Southern Arc:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Himera_Civilian_Pop_Med:I20166[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]6.52941039[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14831[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF600, align: right"]7.76007088[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Palace_of_Nestor_EIA:I19368[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE000, align: right"]8.39931545[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14820[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]8.50581566[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Marmara_İznik_Y.kapı_Byz:I14840[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.57726646[/TD]
[TD]TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I5249[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]8.79564097[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20187[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.27222196[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19490[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.64222485[/TD]
[TD]BGR_Anc:I19500[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.64535121[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc_outlier2:I10167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB400, align: right"]9.71665580[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20147[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB200, align: right"]9.75084099[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_PostMdv:I14823[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]10.20658611[/TD]
[TD]ALB_PostMdv:I14686[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9500, align: right"]10.60652629[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Marmara_Balıkesir_Byz:I14832[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9000, align: right"]10.75888935[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8C00, align: right"]10.88683609[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13577[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7800, align: right"]11.48303531[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13517_d[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7400, align: right"]11.58518019[/TD]
[TD]HRV_Cetina_BA_1d.rel.I19027.possible.1d.rel.I19020:I19022[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6C00, align: right"]11.81717394[/TD]
[TD]MKD_Anc:I10389[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6B00, align: right"]11.84901262[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Samantaş_Byz:I20265[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6800, align: right"]11.92806774[/TD]
[TD]ALB_Mdv:I14622[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6800, align: right"]11.94731351[/TD]
[TD]GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I19366[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6600, align: right"]11.99140943[/TD]
[TD]BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I19495[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6500, align: right"]12.01849824[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Samantaş_Byz:I20266[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.27979234[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Samantaş_Byz_brother.I20265:I20264[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5B00, align: right"]12.33088805[/TD]
[TD]TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Samantaş_Byz:I20259[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

So, even the inhabitants of the Greek colony who might have been admixed with the very different Sicani seem quite close to an EIA Greek in the Palace of Nestor.

I'm always slightly amazed how such an old calculator can come so close to modern qpAdm and Admixture analyses of ancient samples.

Both of those Balkan/Central-European are E-V13, which is interesting and might hint they came from similar region. What is your guess?

 

[Angela]

Both of those Balkan/Central-European are E-V13, which is interesting and might hint they came from similar region. What is your guess?

Given they're so close to HRV and MNE Bronze Age, and Albanian Cinamak ancient, I'd say coastal western Balkans makes sense.

Particularly makes sense also given where we found precursor of E-V13.

The closeness to modern Northern Italian populations doesn't indicate to me that they came from Italy, as northern Italians often get very close matches to these Bronze Age and Iron Age western Balkan peoples. I do myself.

I'd need to see strontium isotope analysis to be sure, but that paper said the "non-local" Himera samples came from either more mountainous locales or places from a more northern latitude. So that also fits.

(The isotope analysis might be able to distinguish between the western Balkans and the "Thracian" hypothesis which many seem to prefer.)

This is all speculation, of course, but I think it's informed speculation.

 

[Salento]

… I10944 and I10949 bams are duplicates, they’ve been the same for a month, … see the size of the bams below:

I reviewed the Y Haplogroup of the duplicate bams, it matches I10944 Himera 480-BC-Battle Eurasian-Steppe, … disregard / delete I10949, as of now.