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Northener said:
Trivial detail....due to corona crisis the Euro Song Festival is down the gutter......

For all the 'lock downers' here....the supposed to be Dutch contribution, the songtext reveals something more, a (personal) message, from me to everybody here ;)

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You just can't help yourself, can you? Even in the midst of all of this, practically every post has a personal or national insult. You think because it's subtle it's ok?

You've been exhibiting this kind of behavior since you showed up here, even on genetics threads with Maciamo. It didn't start with the Covid 19 discussions.

For your information I've been against the EU for ten years or more; it has nothing to do with any emotional reaction to Covid 19.

Did you think we wouldn't get your ethnic stereotyping that Southern Europeans are being too emotional? Or you thought that was the only way to do it and stay technically within the rules of the forum about insulting other people or ethnic groups?

What if I posted a thread asking if it's true that European surveys show the Dutch are considered the least sympathetic,most obnoxious people in Europe? Would that pass muster? How about if I asked whether there are higher levels of Asperger's Disease in The Netherlands? How about that?

I tried to give you a second chance, but you just won't stop. You are on permanent ignore as far as I'm concerned. You will get no responses from me.

If people are smart, they'll do the same thing.
 
Angela said:
You just can't help yourself, can you? Even in the midst of all of this, practically every post has a personal or national insult. You think because it's subtle it's ok?

You've been exhibiting this kind of behavior since you showed up here, even on genetics threads with Maciamo. It didn't start with the Covid 19 discussions.

For your information I've been against the EU for ten years or more; it has nothing to do with any emotional reaction to Covid 19.

Did you think we wouldn't get your ethnic stereotyping that Southern Europeans are being too emotional? Or you thought that was the only way to do it and stay technically within the rules of the forum about insulting other people or ethnic groups?

What if I posted a thread asking if it's true that European surveys show the Dutch are considered the least sympathetic,most obnoxious people in Europe? Would that pass muster? How about if I asked whether there are higher levels of Asperger's Disease in The Netherlands? How about that?

I tried to give you a second chance, but you just won't stop. You are on permanent ignore as far as I'm concerned. You will get no responses from me.

If people are smart, they'll do the same thing.
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We communicatie besides each other.

That mess thing is something about New York, you talk imo in a NY way, that's in our ears sometimes kind of rough....no problem with that. And if I listen well to Cuomo that is even part of the NY self awareness.

"Did you think we wouldn't get your ethnic stereotyping that Southern Europeans are being too emotional?"
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That's something that I didn’t mention in a single contribution. So I don't know what you are meaning. Based on nothing.

What if I posted a thread asking if it's true that European surveys show the Dutch are considered the least sympathetic,most obnoxious people in Europe? Would that pass muster? How about if I asked whether there are higher levels of Asperger's Disease in The Netherlands? How about that?
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Be my guest. To me it are kind of laughable questions. But make it to a topic. I consider it kind of humor.


I tried to give you a second chance, but you just won't stop. You are on permanent ignore as far as I'm concerned. You will get no responses from me.If people are smart, they'll do the same thing.
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The way you communicate does remind me of a sit com we saw in the eighties, the Golden Girls, you probably know it. And of them was Sophia Petrolli. Mark this is not stereotyping all Southerners or Italians (sic!), but you style reminds me very striking of her, wiki:

Sophia is best known for her wisecracks, put-downs and brazen remarks,
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You don't seem aware how much this marks this forum.....

My grandfather told me 'every bird sings as they were born', so no single problem with any style or whatsoever but a public and repetitive call for ostracism is IMO not fair, nothing more nothing less.

Live and let live Angela! And debate is an oxygen of a forum....even if you don't like the person or the opinions of the members!
 
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the statistics upon now published data
the order is according spread over population.


COUNTRY












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2
3


4
InfectedDeaths
5
1229956,4539954,92
6


7
8
9


10
InfectedDeaths
11
1058711,0170912,04
12


13


14


15


16
17
18


19
InfectedDeaths
20
668820,6929175,97
21


22
23
24


25
InfectedDeaths
26
575701,5538560,26
27


28


29


30


31
32
33
34
35
36


37
InfectedDeaths
38
2908970,65126898,05
39
40Albania 2877243150,08450,0617
41Slovakia 545036300,06660,0000
42Kossovo181011210,06190,0089


43Poland383862311330,06020,0143
InfectedDeaths
44
2503957,98167714,09
45Bulgaria 700039980,05700,0201
46Hungary9773492160,05030,0325
47Belarus 949215210,01600,0066
48Russia 1467452337170,01590,0073
49Ukraine 42031645170,01530,0264














Average Europe -Russia -Turkey603631447925302420,7420,068






[TD="width: 123"] Population /1000 [/TD]
[TD="width: 129"] Confirmed infected [/TD]
[TD="width: 120"] deaths upon confirmed [/TD]
[TD="width: 154, bgcolor: #FF66FF"] Confirmed infected /1000 people [/TD]
[TD="width: 129"] deaths /confirmed infected [/TD]
[TD="width: 48"]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 156"]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 145"]
[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] San Marino [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 33 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 236 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 26 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 7,1515 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,1102 [/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"] Europe with Spain's Statistics (No Russia-No Turkey) [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] Andora [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 76 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 376 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 12 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 4,9474 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,0319 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] Luxenbourg [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 614 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 2178 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 23 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 3,5472 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,0106 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] Feroe isls [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 52 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 169 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 3,2500 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,0000 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] Iceland [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 364 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 1135 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 3,1181 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,0018 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] Spain [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 46733 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 95223 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 8464 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 2,0376 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,0889 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] Swiss [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 8570 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 16605 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 433 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 1,9376 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0261 [/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"] Europe with Italy's Statistics (No Russia-No Turkey) [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] Italy [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 60318 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 105792 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 12428 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 1,7539 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,1175 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] Liechtenstein [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 39 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 68 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 1,7436 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0000 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] Austria [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 8903 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 10180 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 128 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 1,1434 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0126 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] Belgium [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 11516 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 12775 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 705 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 1,1093 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0552 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] EU [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 449507 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 396282 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 27863 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,8816 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,0703 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] Norway [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 5368 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 4641 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 39 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,8646 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,0084 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] Deutch [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 83149 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 71808 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 775 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,8636 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,0108 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] France [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 67022 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 52128 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 3523 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,7778 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,0676 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] Porugal [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 10277 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 7443 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 160 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,7242 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,0215 [/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"] USA with Spain's statistics [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] Netherlands [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 17425 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 12595 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 1039 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,7228 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF66"] 0,0825 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] USA [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 328240 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 188172 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 3873 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,5733 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,0206 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Esthonia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 1328 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 745 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,5610 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0054 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Ireland [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 6573 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 3235 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 71 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,4922 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0219 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Denmark [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 5823 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 2860 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 90 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,4912 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0315 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] sweden [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 10303 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 4435 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 180 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,4305 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0406 [/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"] USA with Italy's statistics [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Slovenia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 2100 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 802 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 15 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,3819 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0187 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] UK [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 67547 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 25150 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 1789 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,3723 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0711 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Malta [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 494 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 169 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,3421 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0000 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Czech [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 10650 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 3308 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 31 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,3106 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0094 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Finland [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 5521 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 1418 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 17 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,2568 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0120 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Cyprus [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 1189 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 262 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,2204 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0305 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Croatia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 4076 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 867 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,2127 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0069 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] Lettonia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 1920 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 398 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,2073 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF33"] 0,0000 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Lithuania [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2794 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 537 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1922 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0149 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Montenegro [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 631 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 109 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1727 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0183 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Turkey [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 82004 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 13531 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 214 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1650 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0158 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Severna Mac [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2077 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 329 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 9 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1584 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0274 [/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"] China with Spain's statistics [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Moldova [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2682 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 353 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1316 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0113 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Serbia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 6964 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 900 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 16 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1292 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0178 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Greece [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 10768 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 1314 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 49 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1220 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0373 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Bosnia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 3511 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 420 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 13 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1196 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0310 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Romania [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 19402 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2245 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 82 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1157 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0365 [/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"] China with Italy's statistics [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] mainland China [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 1427648 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 82279 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 3309 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,0576 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,0402 [/TD]
 
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Observations

the ratio among biggest confirmed infected country to lowest at EU is 70,52 times !!!!! (LUX/HUN)

East of Alps all countries are bellow average EU's infection !!!!!!

the graph on a logarithic scale shows a stability on Italy and Swiss, but a liitle tense for Spain, but under a control situation
estimation of full control can be done for the above but what meaning has to post it, some countries appear to have 2 booms.

Italy keeps the record of high confirmed mortality, while some other countries keep 0,00 like Latvia 0/398

EU compare to China
confirmed infection ratio 15.29 times
confirmed mortality 1.75 times.
only 2 countries bellow China's average.

comparing Mortality and spread over the population (virus effectiveness to bring death according virus spread)
Ukraine and Albania appear to have the biggest, while Feroe isls have lowest =0




The previous matrix according confirmed mortality.

COUNTRYPopulation /1000Confirmed infecteddeaths upon confirmedConfirmed infected /1000 people






1
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44Feroe isls5216903,25000,0000
45Liechtenstein396801,74360,0000
46Malta 49416900,34210,0000
47Lettonia 192039800,20730,0000
48Slovakia 545036300,06660,0000

[TD="width: 129"] deaths /confirmed infected [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] Italy [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 60318 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 105792 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 12428 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 1,7539 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,1175 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] San Marino [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 33 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 236 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 26 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 7,1515 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,1102 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] Spain [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 46733 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 95223 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 8464 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 2,0376 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,0889 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] Netherlands [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 17425 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 12595 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 1039 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,7228 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,0825 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] UK [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 67547 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 25150 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 1789 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,3723 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9999"] 0,0711 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] EU [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 449507 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 396282 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 27863 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,8816 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,0703 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] France [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 67022 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 52128 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 3523 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,7778 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0676 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] Albania [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 2877 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 243 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 15 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0845 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0617 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] Belgium [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 11516 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 12775 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 705 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 1,1093 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0552 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] sweden [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 10303 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 4435 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 180 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,4305 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFF00"] 0,0406 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] mainland China [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 1427648 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 82279 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 3309 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,0576 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,0402 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Greece [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 10768 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 1314 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 49 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,1220 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0373 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Romania [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 19402 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 2245 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 82 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,1157 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0365 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Hungary [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 9773 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 492 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 16 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0503 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0325 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Andora [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 76 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 376 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 12 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 4,9474 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0319 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Denmark [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 5823 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 2860 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 90 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,4912 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0315 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Bosnia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 3511 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 420 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 13 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,1196 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0310 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Cyprus [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 1189 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 262 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,2204 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0305 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Severna Mac [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 2077 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 329 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 9 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,1584 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0274 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Ukraine [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 42031 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 645 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 17 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0153 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0264 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Swiss [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 8570 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 16605 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 433 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 1,9376 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0261 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Ireland [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 6573 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 3235 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 71 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,4922 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0219 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] Porugal [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 10277 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 7443 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 160 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,7242 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00"] 0,0215 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] USA [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 328240 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 189510 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 3900 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,5774 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #66CCFF"] 0,0206 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Bulgaria [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 7000 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 399 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0570 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0201 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Slovenia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2100 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 802 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 15 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,3819 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0187 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Montenegro [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 631 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 109 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1727 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0183 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Serbia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 6964 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 900 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 16 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1292 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0178 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Turkey [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 82004 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 13531 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 214 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1650 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0158 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Lithuania [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2794 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 537 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 8 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1922 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0149 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Poland [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 38386 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2311 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 33 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0602 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0143 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Austria [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 8903 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 10180 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 128 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 1,1434 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0126 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Finland [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 5521 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 1418 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 17 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,2568 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0120 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Moldova [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2682 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 353 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,1316 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0113 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Deutch [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 83149 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 71808 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 775 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,8636 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0108 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Luxenbourg [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 614 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2178 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 23 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 3,5472 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0106 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Czech [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 10650 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 3308 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 31 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,3106 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0094 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Kossovo [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 1810 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 112 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 1 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0619 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0089 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Norway [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 5368 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 4641 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 39 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,8646 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0084 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Russia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 146745 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2337 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 17 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0159 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0073 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Croatia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 4076 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 867 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 6 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,2127 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0069 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Belarus [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 9492 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 152 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 1 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0160 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0066 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Esthonia [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 1328 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 745 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 4 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,5610 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0054 [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] Iceland [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 364 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 1135 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 2 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 3,1181 [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF99"] 0,0018 [/TD]
 
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Regio X said:
Could thalassemia be protective against Covid-19 too?

fyi

https://usnewstoday.live/the-residents-of-italy-have-immunity-to-the-coronavirus/

https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/italian-town-next-to-epicenter-of-covid-19-ou-880258.html
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Anemia Mediterranea ?

A lot of people have it in my town in Italy.

They test everyone for it, :thinking: and before couples get married too.
(I guess is not needed for some new Couples anymore) lol

Ironic, I’m negative for it ... and I thought I was so lucky :)
 
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Regio X said:
Could thalassemia be protective against Covid-19 too?

fyi

https://usnewstoday.live/the-residents-of-italy-have-immunity-to-the-coronavirus/

https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/italian-town-next-to-epicenter-of-covid-19-ou-880258.html
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Yes, Regio, I saw it in the Italian press too.

I'm surprised he says malaria is still present there, although I know it used to be in the areas around the Po, but it's certainly possible that people with long ancestry there might have higher levels of thalassemia.

Whether, if they carry it in higher numbers, it's protective, I don't know.

Interestingly enough, people who have malaria are given quinine, and hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is being tested because it seems to help some patients who have severe Covid 19. I hope they hurry up with the tests. People with autoimmune disorders like rheumatoid arthritis have been taking it for decades, and the only worrying side effect at "very" high doses is vision changes, so people are checked periodically.

The question of varying genetic susceptibility to Covid 19 is something I've been thinking about too. The common cold is a coronavirus too, after all, and some people are much more susceptible.

I was actually going to post this article.

"Yosuke Tanigawa and Manuel Rivas of Stanford University, who have also been involved in the Host Genetics Initiative, studied data from UK Biobank to look at leucocyte antigens and blood types to understand the role of genetics in Covid-19 infections. Their work, which has not been peer-reviewed, was published on preprints.org on March 24."

"Drawing on studies that found an association between more severe Covid-19 cases and individuals with lower lymphocyte – or white blood cell – counts, the two said that lymphocyte count “may play a role in susceptibility to viral infection and disease progression”.

Their study also found “significant and consistent risk reduction” for the coronavirus from people with type O blood, lending support to an earlier study by Chinese researchers
that found patients with type A blood had higher rate of infection and tended to have more severe Covid-19 symptoms, while those with type O blood had a lower risk of serious infection."
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...cs-race-uncover-who-most-susceptible-covid-19


 
Salento said:
Anemia Mediterranea ?

A lot of people have it in my town in Italy.

They test everyone for it, :thinking: and before couples get married too.
(I guess is not needed for some new Couples anymore) lol

Ironic, I’m negative for it ... and I thought I was so lucky :)
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"The gene for beta thalassemia is not evenly distributed among peoples. It is, for example, relatively more frequent in people of Italian and Greek origin, both of which are peoples from the Mediterranean. Because of this, thalassemia major has been called Mediterranean anemia.The name thalassemia was coined at the University of Rochester in upstate New York by the Nobel Prize-winning pathologist George Whipple and the professor of pediatrics William Bradford from the Greek thalassa for sea and -emia, meaning the blood. Thalassemia means "sea in the blood." But for the Greeks, the sea was the Mediterranean, so thalassemia also conveys the idea of the Mediterranean in the blood.
The reason that the gene for beta thalassemia is relatively common, for example, among people of Italian and Greek origin is that parts of Italy and Greece were once full of malaria. The presence of thalassemia minor (like sickle cell trait in Africa) afforded protection against malaria, and therefore, this gene thrived."

As far as Northern Italy is concerned, I would doubt it's common in mountain areas, but that's a guess. I'd have to do detailed research. Certainly, though, I think it was endemic around the Po plain.
With all the intermarriage that has gone on in larger towns, it may not be at high levels even there anymore.
 
"Japan Postal service is suspending international service to many countries as of 2nd April 2020. Been here 33 years and nothing like this has ever happened…. Take note and plan accordingly."

That means no incoming mail or packages from abroad? Are they totally self-sufficient or plan to be? If the rest of the world were to follow suit, I guess that would mean don't buy those defective masks and testing kits from China.
 
Another hypothesis being proposed is that the mild flu season in Italy this year, with fewer deaths among the elderly, left Italy with a bigger pool of susceptible elderly people.

I'm not sure what to think about this, especially given that I've seen stats from Mayors in the North showing a huge spike in deaths overall from the same weeks last year. I doubt that can all be explained by this.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/italy-s-mild-flu-season-may-solve-mystery-of-coronavirus-deaths

My own personal hunch, and that's all it is, is that in Lombardia this is a "skiing" event originally. The skiers were exposed and went home, and, given the level of interaction among family members in Italy, exposed their elderly parents or grandparents. The Atalanta/Valencia match did the rest.
 
Peak transmission in Spain: data from the epidemiological curve
https://as.com/diarioas/2020/04/01/actualidad/1585734724_554074.html

EUggyEHXYAEy0Do


Actualizado a: 01/04/2020 13:03

The Autonomous Community most affected is Madrid, where there are more infections (29,840 this Wednesday) and more deaths (3,865), and is followed by Catalonia (19,981 and 1,849) and the Basque Country (6,838 and 369). Castilla-La Mancha (7,047 and 774), Castilla y León (6,847 and 585) and Andalucia (6,392 and 308) lag behind all of these but add cases at a similar speed.


At the beginning of the first days of confinement, it was fatal for some regions such as Extremadura, Murcia or Andalusia, the displacement of Madrid residents with a second residence in these regions. At first there was no real scope of the situation and many thought 15 days because they did not spend divinely in their second residence without knowing that they were spreading the pandemic to other territories.


Even yesterday, the residents of a town in Almería denounced a couple who moved from Madrid to a house that her mother has in Almería. The urbanization cameras confirmed that they had skipped the confinement and will be expelled from the town.


This video explains all this mess of curves, one curve is not the same as the other, I think it is clear.
The video is in Spanish but it is an international language.

watch


He anticipates that confinement will continue through April 20. The daily contagion curve will be the one that best indicates when we are close to controlling the pandemic.
 
Salento said:
Anemia Mediterranea ?

A lot of people have it in my town in Italy.

They test everyone for it, :thinking: and before couples get married too.
(I guess is not needed for some new Couples anymore) lol

Ironic, I’m negative for it ... and I thought I was so lucky :)
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I think you're lucky. Protection against malaria would be the only positive aspect, afaik, and "perhaps" against Covid-19 as well (so far it's just an hypothesis).

Angela said:
Yes, Regio, I saw it in the Italian press too.

I'm surprised he says malaria is still present there, although I know it used to be in the areas around the Po, but it's certainly possible that people with long ancestry there might have higher levels of thalassemia.

Whether, if they carry it in higher numbers, it's protective, I don't know.

Interestingly enough, people who have malaria are given quinine, and hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is being tested because it seems to help some patients who have severe Covid 19. I hope they hurry up with the tests. People with autoimmune disorders like rheumatoid arthritis have been taking it for decades, and the only worrying side effect at "very" high doses is vision changes, so people are checked periodically.

The question of varying genetic susceptibility to Covid 19 is something I've been thinking about too. The common cold is a coronavirus too, after all, and some people are much more susceptible.

I was actually going to post this article.

"Yosuke Tanigawa and Manuel Rivas of Stanford University, who have also been involved in the Host Genetics Initiative, studied data from UK Biobank to look at leucocyte antigens and blood types to understand the role of genetics in Covid-19 infections. Their work, which has not been peer-reviewed, was published on preprints.org on March 24."

"Drawing on studies that found an association between more severe Covid-19 cases and individuals with lower lymphocyte – or white blood cell – counts, the two said that lymphocyte count “may play a role in susceptibility to viral infection and disease progression”.

Their study also found “significant and consistent risk reduction” for the coronavirus from people with type O blood, lending support to an earlier study by Chinese researchers
that found patients with type A blood had higher rate of infection and tended to have more severe Covid-19 symptoms, while those with type O blood had a lower risk of serious infection."
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...cs-race-uncover-who-most-susceptible-covid-19
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I read that rs2975033(A) for HLA-A*02:01 could perhaps affect how sick people get from Covid-19. If it's true, and apparently it's still just an hypothesis, the allele "A" would be the key here.

I wonder if I got infected already and was cured. If it's not true, than what I had was just a mild cold, coincidently. But I do fit in some groups of risk. I'm not old, but I'm not young (I reached the first half of 40s already), man, A+ (just one bro is O+, whereas the others are A+, as my parents), my hemoglobin levels used to be close to the upper limit (so nothing close to a thalassemia), I'm rs2975033(G;G) - or rs2975033(C;C) -, so not a single A (or T)... Well, at least I've never smoked, and I don't suffer from any disease. Still... I hope I don't have a foot in the grave. :)
 
Corona virus COVID-19 genetic susceptibility report - I don't know what this means, but who have interst, see in yourDNAportal:

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Angela said:
"The gene for beta thalassemia is not evenly distributed among peoples. It is, for example, relatively more frequent in people of Italian and Greek origin, both of which are peoples from the Mediterranean. Because of this, thalassemia major has been called Mediterranean anemia.The name thalassemia was coined at the University of Rochester in upstate New York by the Nobel Prize-winning pathologist George Whipple and the professor of pediatrics William Bradford from the Greek thalassa for sea and -emia, meaning the blood. Thalassemia means "sea in the blood." But for the Greeks, the sea was the Mediterranean, so thalassemia also conveys the idea of the Mediterranean in the blood.
The reason that the gene for beta thalassemia is relatively common, for example, among people of Italian and Greek origin is that parts of Italy and Greece were once full of malaria. The presence of thalassemia minor (like sickle cell trait in Africa) afforded protection against malaria, and therefore, this gene thrived."

As far as Northern Italy is concerned, I would doubt it's common in mountain areas, but that's a guess. I'd have to do detailed research. Certainly, though, I think it was endemic around the Po plain.
With all the intermarriage that has gone on in larger towns, it may not be at high levels even there anymore.
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I checked on the “Genomapp“ app.

The old Italian test was correct.

Happy Face means all OK.

... and I won’t pass it down the line.

The associated hypothetical protection from Covid-19 doesn’t apply to me.


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Regio X said:
I think you're lucky. Protection against malaria would be the only positive aspect, afaik, and "perhaps" against Covid-19 as well (so far it's just an hypothesis).

I read that rs2975033(A) for HLA-A*02:01 could perhaps affect how sick people get from Covid-19. If it's true, and apparently it's still just an hypothesis, the allele "A" would be the key here.

I wonder if I got infected already and was cured. If it's not true, than what I had was just a mild cold, coincidently. But I do fit in some groups of risk. I'm not old, but I'm not young (I reached the first half of 40s already), man, A+ (just one bro is O+, whereas the others are A+, as my parents), my hemoglobin levels used to be close to the upper limit (so nothing close to a thalassemia), I'm rs2975033(G;G) - or rs2975033(C;C) -, so not a single A (or T)... Well, at least I've never smoked, and I don't suffer from any disease. Still... I hope I don't have a foot in the grave. :)
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I think you can wait until you see 60 on the horizon. :)
 
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