New Archaiological discoverie in Makedonian tomps - off topic.

[Yetos]

Euridiki ,was she illyrian ?

for you se could be even Turkish, like you,

how that syndrom is called? when you see Albanians everywhere?
PSYCHOSIS?

 

[King Bardhyl]

for you se could be even Turkish, like you,

how that syndrom is called? when you see Albanians everywhere?
PSYCHOSIS?

*Reference: Sir William Woodthorpe Tarn He contributed many chapters to the Cambridge Ancient History—on the rise of the Hellenistic world, on Alexander the Great, and on Parthia—and parts of the chapters between the death of Caesar and the death of Cleopatra. His account of Alexander, which was published separately in 1948 as Alexander the Great with a companion volume, Alexander the Great: Sources and Studies, showed an admiration verging on hero-worship. F. Adcock,‘Sir William Tarn’, PBA, 54 (1958), 253–62 • The Times (8 Nov 1957)• WWW • Venn, Alum. Cant.• The Eton register, 5 (privately printed, Eton, 1908)• private information (1971)• personal knowledge (1971)• census returns, 1881 • A. B. Bosworth, Alexander and the East (1996)

P 1, ALEXANDER THE GREAT, W.W. Tarn, Beacon Press, Boston, 1956 - See more at: http://frosina.org/834/#sthash.q4yqBADt.dpuf

Sir William Woodthorpe Tarn, of the British Academy, regarded worldwide as having written the definitive work on Alexander the Great, states in the opening paragraph of his book Alexander the Great that “Alexander certainly had from his father (Philip II) and probably from his mother (Olymbia) Illyrian, i.e. Albanian, blood!” - See more at: http://frosina.org/834/#sthash.q4yqBADt.dpuf

 

[King Bardhyl]

for you se could be even Turkish, like you,

how that syndrom is called? when you see Albanians everywhere?
PSYCHOSIS?

The greek "net-warriors" have destroyed wikipedia with their tentatives to hide the truth,but some things have forgotten to erase.
It`s an possibility for you Yetos to learn something new.
About grand mother of Leka I Madhe aka Alexander The Great, Eurydice:
http://books.google.com/books?id=QsJ183uUDkMC&pg=PA286&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.stoa.org/sol-bin/search....&searchstr=karanos&field=any&num_per_page=100
http://books.google.com/books?id=Zb...r_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eurydice illyrian&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Qs...r_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eurydice illyrian&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=kf...r_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eurydice illyrian&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=uY...r_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eurydice illyrian&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Vs...en&sa=X&ei=-LvHU4adBYqM4gSYtYCwBQ&redir_esc=y
After the lecture I gave to the Albanian origin of the current President of Greece Karolos Papoulias, this is an another lessons.
No need to thank me.
Sirras' origin is disputed, scholars being divided on whether he was of Lynkestian origin, or of Illyrian (Taulantii) origin.<sup>[2][3]</sup> Plutarch explicitly stated that his daughter, Eurydice, was an Illyrian,<sup>[4]</sup> so does Libanius, as is stated in the 10th-century Byzantine encyclopaedia Suda.
King Amyntas III of Macedon married the young princess Eurydice in about 390 BC, probably in an effort to secured peace allies against<sup>[17]</sup> the Illyrians, after he was defeated by them in 393 BC.
Alexander fled Macedon with his mother, dropping her off with her brother, King Alexander I of Epirus in Dodona, capital of the Molossians.<sup>[41]</sup> He continued to Illyria,<sup>[41]</sup> where he sought refuge with the Illyrian King and was treated as a guest, despite having defeated them in battle a few years before.
So it`s clear, he found refuge to his own.
So talk about the history and not insulting the others.
In the evening i will continue the lessons, how is created the myth of greek origine of Alexander the great.Who is interested i inviting to read page 2 of this thread:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...tomps-could-be-Great-Alexander-s-family/page2

 

[King Bardhyl]

Lynkestian were illyrians, but greek "net-warriors" and phillhellenes don`t agree with this.

 

[Yetos]

one word,

PSYCHOSIS

Alexander's words,

<<ΠΛΕΙΣΤΟΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ>>
not kryesisht shqiptarë


from lake Lychnitis and south only Ellimians and Bryges lived, Ellimeians were Greek, Bryges were Thracians.

 

[King Bardhyl]

HAHAHAHAHA, you learned the albanian word Kryesisht.
How learned you this ? After my lesson about the name of one your prime ministers,albanian origin Mr. Kriezi or Kryeziu. You will learn a lot of things. Just read with attention my post.
BTW ,you are from greek macedonia, how many albanian villages are today in your region?

 

[King Bardhyl]

I agree with you he was albanian blood and culturally greek .
We are culturally american today ,but at the end of the day i am an PROUD ALBANIAN. And you what you are ,an prosfig or kutchovlah ?
BTW ,translate in english the greek word katsidiaris, pls.

 

[Sile]

The greek "net-warriors" have destroyed wikipedia with their tentatives to hide the truth,but some things have forgotten to erase.
It`s an possibility for you Yetos to learn something new.
About grand mother of Leka I Madhe aka Alexander The Great, Eurydice:
http://books.google.com/books?id=QsJ183uUDkMC&pg=PA286&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.stoa.org/sol-bin/search....&searchstr=karanos&field=any&num_per_page=100
http://books.google.com/books?id=Zb...r_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eurydice illyrian&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Qs...r_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eurydice illyrian&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=kf...r_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eurydice illyrian&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=uY...r_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eurydice illyrian&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Vs...en&sa=X&ei=-LvHU4adBYqM4gSYtYCwBQ&redir_esc=y
After the lecture I gave to the Albanian origin of the current President of Greece Karolos Papoulias, this is an another lessons.
No need to thank me.
Sirras' origin is disputed, scholars being divided on whether he was of Lynkestian origin, or of Illyrian (Taulantii) origin.<sup>[2][3]</sup> Plutarch explicitly stated that his daughter, Eurydice, was an Illyrian,<sup>[4]</sup> so does Libanius, as is stated in the 10th-century Byzantine encyclopaedia Suda.
King Amyntas III of Macedon married the young princess Eurydice in about 390 BC, probably in an effort to secured peace allies against<sup>[17]</sup> the Illyrians, after he was defeated by them in 393 BC.
Alexander fled Macedon with his mother, dropping her off with her brother, King Alexander I of Epirus in Dodona, capital of the Molossians.<sup>[41]</sup> He continued to Illyria,<sup>[41]</sup> where he sought refuge with the Illyrian King and was treated as a guest, despite having defeated them in battle a few years before.
So it`s clear, he found refuge to his own.
So talk about the history and not insulting the others.
In the evening i will continue the lessons, how is created the myth of greek origine of Alexander the great.Who is interested i inviting to read page 2 of this thread:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...tomps-could-be-Great-Alexander-s-family/page2

Alexander was treated as a guest , say you presented...........clearly indicating he was not illyrian.

Molossians are one of the 14 tribes of epirotes

 

[Yetos]

I agree with you he was albanian blood and culturally greek .
We are culturally american today ,but at the end of the day i am an PROUD ALBANIAN. And you what you are ,an prosfig or kutchovlah ?
BTW ,translate in english the greek word katsidiaris, pls.

The symptoms of Psychosis

the psychotic mania see everywhere consiparacy and mental illness

Now you tell us that Alexander was a psycho, that in day was Greek and at night Albanian?


for me is enough his words and his dedications,

as for me No Albanians in my area, never,
there were 7-10 000 Turk-Albans under Ottomans command, they had a tekke and a mahala/katounak
but we slain them all at WW1,
surprisingly, we let Turks live and exchange them at 22-23, but not their pets,
you see in Makedonia we say Ne De SKA.

 

[King Bardhyl]

Alexander was treated as a guest , say you presented...........clearly indicating he was not illyrian.

Molossians are one of the 14 tribes of epirotes

I am just quoting what greek "net-warriors" have forgotten to erase in wikipedia.

 

[King Bardhyl]

Alexander was treated as a guest , say you presented...........clearly indicating he was not illyrian.

Molossians are one of the 14 tribes of epirotes

And albanian are the descendant of epirotes. Look Sile if you want to discuss i will accept this but you have to use references and continue until the end the discussion. OIK?

 

[King Bardhyl]

The symptoms of Psychosis

the psychotic mania see everywhere consiparacy and mental illness

Now you tell us that Alexander was a psycho, that in day was Greek and at night Albanian?


for me is enough his words and his dedications,

as for me No Albanians in my area, never,
there were 7-10 000 Turk-Albans under Ottomans command, they had a tekke and a mahala/katounak
but we slain them all at WW1,
surprisingly, we let Turks live and exchange them at 22-23, but not their pets,
you see in Makedonia we say Ne De SKA.

I know that you are an "brave" man, i know very well. Just a little degraded as kalergi say but no problem.
I am speaking about villages with orthodox albanian in greek Macedonia. How many villages are?
And about the word katsidiaris i am very curios, pls translate in english.

 

[Yetos]

I know that you are an "brave" man, i know very well. Just a little degraded as kalergi say but no problem.
I am speaking about villages with orthodox albanian in greek Macedonia. How many villages are?
And about the word katsidiaris i am very curios, pls translate in english.

told you in my area none.
no arbanites in my area,
you see you know so little Greece,

there few families mostly Aromani from Bulgarec and moschopolis scattered,

you believe that Greece is full Arbanites, although max 150 000, and in Makedonia until 1990 NO Albanian, NO Arbaniti except some Aromani from N Epirus,
in the city of Thessaloniki might be some
told you, you got psychosis,
probably never came to Greece, to testify by your own eyes.

if and when you come, specially center makedonia, is easier to find a Slavophone (Skopje) than any Albanian,exception the immigrants from1990.

 

[King Bardhyl]

Sile this is an article of Golden Down, the greek fascist party about the history of Albania. I can tell you that i agree totaly with them about the history of my country. A serious article, i have nothing to add.Tell to Yeto the Albanian-slayer (Ἀλβανιτοκτόνος) to translate.
Golden Down: Albanians, the Dorians of modern Hellenism

 

[King Bardhyl]

Sile this is an article of Golden Down, the greek fascist party about the history of Albania. I can tell you that i agree totaly with them about the history of my country. A serious article, i have nothing to add.Tell to Yeto the Albanian-slayer (Ἀλβανιτοκτόνος) to translate.
Golden Down: Albanians, the Dorians of modern Hellenism

@ Sile
Our friend Yeto "the Albanian-slayer" not translated article, i am trying:

Hence the title is very telling: Greeks and Albanians: one people, one race, one homeland (OΈλληνες Αλβανοί: Ένας Λαός, μία Φυλή, μία Πατρίδα). The author who used an Albanian pseudonym (ΦΑΕΘΩΝ) complains of several attempts to downplay the prominent role of Albanians. He urges to re-evaluate the role of Albanians by exposing historical facts. According to the author who used an Albanian nickname, Albanians since Illyrian period have furnished Greece with valiant heroes as well as soldiers.
Some of the crucial points of that article are as following:

*To get a clear idea of Greece, one must not fail to remember the wars of Pyrrhus, Queen Teuta, Demetrius of Pharos, Genthios against Roman Empire.

*Throughout Byzantine period, Illyrian commanders like Velissarios and Vranas, but even the emperors like Constandine the Great (a Dardanian from Naissus), Anastasios, Julian and Leon Zguros give the proper answer to history.

*The sturdy warriors who died in battlefields of Peleponnesus, Rumelia and the islands, Epirus and several other regions did their best to help their southern brethren, who were revolted against Ottomans.

*Therefore, Albanians are rightfully deemed as Dorians of the new Hellenism (Αρβανίτες - Οι δωριείς του νεώτερου ελληνισμού

).

* Kokalis, Andrucos, Kacionis, Grindalis, Plaputas, Kacandonis, Mjaulis, Kolokotronis, Bubulina, Karajskaqis, Kunduriotis and Botsaris were all Albanians, who distinguished themselves on their anti-Ottoman wars.

In spite of several fractions and institutions, our honest opinion has not ignored the price of sacrifices. In the same vain, we regenerate our origin, by dealing with an important issue, by determining our descent and blood. By busting the propaganda of politics and ignorance, we should point to the history in order to find out undeniable similarities between Greeks and Albanians.

To start from the language, we are about to give a couple of comparisons between the language of Arvanites and that of Homer. (The article gives a list of some commonalities between the language of Arvanites and that of Homer…).

(...)Being aware of the value of war and the actions of our heroes, we express a historical justice by honoring their sacrifices regardless their origin. To get a clear idea of Greece, one must not fail to remember the wars of Pyrrhus, Queen Teuta, Demetrius of Pharos, Genthios against Roman Empire. Throughout Byzantine period, Illyrian commanders like Velissarios and Vranas, but even the emperors like Constandine the Great (a Dardanian from Naissus), Anastasios, Julian and Leon Zguros give the proper answer to history. The sturdy warriors who died in battlefields of Peleponnesus, Rumelia and the islands, Epirus and several other regions did their best to help their southern brethren, who were revolted against Ottomans. Therefore, Albanians are rightfully deemed as Dorians of the new Hellenism. Beyond the fanatical attempts to conceal one of the brightest elements of our history, appears the sacrifice of Arvanites during the national revolution of 1821. The sacrifice of Ghika family in Walachia and Moldavia, the courage of Buas, that of Shkurta family, Buzara, Bardhans, Lalas and Souliotes up to the rise of uprising in Messenia on mars of 1821 from Dredhes, numerous warriors who defended the islands of Hydra and Spetzai, outstanding figures like Kokalis, Andrucos, Kacionis, Grindalis, Plaputas, Kacandonis, Mjaulis, Kolokotronis, Bubulina, Karajskaqis, Kunduriotis and Botsaris. All of them distinguished themselves in the wars against Ottomans and they were descendants of Alexander the Great of Balkans, Scanderbeg along with the misunderstood personality of Ali Pasha.

* The author Antonios Androutsopoulos (aka Periandros) is of Albanian origin. He is being sentenced to 21 years imprisonment for the attempted murder of university student Dimitris Kousouris and another two people in 1998, outside the Evelpidon courthouses. The height of irony is that those leftists which were assaulted by Androutsopoulos always courageously defended Albanians in Greece.

So Sile the most extremist group in Greece, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party)
has this opinion about Albanians and all historical persons mentioned in article. All the Greece know this things only our friend Yeto "the Albanian-slayer" does not accept.

 

[King Bardhyl]

This is beautifull:
* "Kokalis, Andrucos, Kacionis, Grindalis, Plaputas, Kacandonis, Mjaulis, Kolokotronis, Bubulina, Karajskaqis, Kunduriotis and Botsaris were all Albanians, who distinguished themselves on their anti-Ottoman wars".
The author has forgotten many other names, heroes of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_War_of_Independence but no problem.
It`s an long list of president and prime minister of Greece all self declared PROUD ALBANIAN , but no problem.

 

[King Bardhyl]

And our friend Yeto "the Albanian-slayer" where is hidden now?

 

[arvistro]

This is beautifull:
* "Kokalis, Andrucos, Kacionis, Grindalis, Plaputas, Kacandonis, Mjaulis, Kolokotronis, Bubulina, Karajskaqis, Kunduriotis and Botsaris were all Albanians, who distinguished themselves on their anti-Ottoman wars".

Their surnames sound Lithuanian -as, -is, etc.
Based on above it is clear that Alexander was Balt.

On serious note - you have plenty of other threads to go on your Greek-Albanian discussions. This is the third or fourth one I see this discussion over and over. Surnames above have nothing to do with Aleksandr's origins. And even less with the tomb in subject. Guys, really...

 

[albanopolis]

Their surnames sound Lithuanian -as, -is, etc.
Based on above it is clear that Alexander was Balt.

On serious note - you have plenty of other threads to go on your Greek-Albanian discussions. This is the third or fourth one I see this discussion over and over. Surnames above have nothing to do with Aleksandr's origins. And even less with the tomb in subject. Guys, really...

Greek names or surnames 90% of the time end with an s. I think this is the case with the Lithuanian names as well. Even if the names will not end with an s Greeks will put one for you, because their sentence building rule will not allow a name with no s. But I don't know Greeks but Albanian language shows a distant link with the Baltic languages. If curious check wiki on alb language.
As for the Tomb found in Greek Macedonia the whole thing is amazing. It really shows the sophistication and reaches of Hellenic culture. It also shows that for some life was a blessing, for many a curse. Massive work in the Tomb shows the elite had enormous wealth accumulated on the back of others.
The Greeks would have owned a monopoly of antiquity if it was not for Albos.

 

[Yetos]

Psychosis

the man see Albanians everywhere,

what next?

Kolokotronis an Albanian since when?

in his memmories say other

Katsonis
Katsantonis
karaiskakis Albanians since when?

According to the local historical tradition of the Evrytania Prefecture, he was a Sarakatsanos klepht leader born in the village of Marathos, Agrafa. His real name was Antonis Makriyannis (Αντώνης Μακρυγιάννης), son of Yannis Makriyannis (born in Petrovouni, Epirus—not to be confused with Yannis Makriyannis born in Avoriti, Doris).

katsonis the same

-Katsan- shows sarakatsans

Are you making Sarakatsans now Albanians?
who is next?
Cretans? Grekani?

you made kolokotronis an Albanian

Wasn't his father that slay 10 000 Albanians who supported Turks after Orlov's revolt,
in His memories say his was Greek, not Albanian, you like to make him Albanian,
but in his memories he say: First for Albanian is money and crime,

wasn't the Albanian who Burned Arbaniti island of Spetses at 1770's? YES
wasn't the Albanians the ones who Slain all the Aigio citizens about 4 000? yes?

Kolokotronis in his memories say his father beat them at Tripolitsa at 1778/9


about golden dawn, I am not fun of them,but Let me remind 21st Waffen mountain Division or SS SKANDERBERG

THE NAZI ALBANIAN EAGLE?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Skanderbeg_(1st_Albanian)


and also let me remind you the Xylia
the Italo-Albanian organisation which later cooperate with Nazi's and execute the Greek Nobles and elected authorities in their houses
promoting Mazhar DINO and ShaLUKA and take part of Greece as Chameria

in the video all the documents that Nazis gave to Greeks after their retreat when war was lost for them

whatch every minute 2:13 and 3:59
the Authentic ITALIAN AND GERMAN DOCUMENTS

sorry
you ask for it,

how many times we have to send you back? how many times you invade our lands? with the help of Turks?

do not worry, next is near, IS is already in Balkans, we expect you Turk.


the wise old man warn us about you through his memories,

besides In Makedonia we know you from the times you burn down Moschopolis
cause took part in first greek revolt the Orlov's

you see in Makedonia NEDE SKA,

Sorry but from the times of Vallavan pasha you did nothing except obey the Ottoman Turks,
Slay every Liberty spirit in balkans,
and even at WW1 when Austrians saved you, you will still stay under ottomans.

PATHETIC