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OK, 23andme v5. I'm a bit more "matchy" than you to Toscana and North Italian (Bergamo?), but I'm half East Liguria/Tuscan, after all, and maybe more western shifted? My results using the v3 are worse, with again the K15 being worse than the K13.
You have more ancestry from Romagna, though, right? Mine is half Emilian. That might explain why you have closer numbers to Balkan people and I have closer numbers to Spaniards and Portuguese. You're always my closest, though. Emilia-Romagna strong!
K13
# Population (source) Distance 1 Tuscan 3.31 2 North_Italian 4.87 3 West_Sicilian 9.85 4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.26 5 Greek_Thessaly 11.19 6 Portuguese 12.77 7 Spanish_Extremadura 12.9 8 Spanish_Murcia 13.58 9 Spanish_Andalucia 13.68 10 Central_Greek 13.95 11 Spanish_Valencia 13.97 12 Spanish_Galicia 14.34 13 East_Sicilian 14.35 14 Spanish_Cataluna 14.57 15 Bulgarian 14.77 16 Romanian 14.85 17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.89 18 South_Italian 15.52 19 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 15.59 20 Ashkenazi 16.68
K15 v5
K15
# Population (source) Distance 1 Tuscan 3.96 2 North_Italian 5.66 3 Italian_Abruzzo 9.67 4 West_Sicilian 9.69 5 Greek_Thessaly 10.67 6 Greek 11.03 7 Spanish_Extremadura 12.42 8 Spanish_Murcia 12.45 9 Portuguese 12.53 10 Central_Greek 12.72 11 East_Sicilian 12.73 12 Bulgarian 12.86 13 Spanish_Andalucia 12.98 14 Spanish_Cataluna 13.32 15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.41 16 Spanish_Galicia 13.5 17 Romanian 13.59 18 Spanish_Valencia 13.85 19 South_Italian 14.22 20 Ashkenazi 14.61
Distance to: | Claire |
---|---|
6.23683413 | IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 |
10.08218230 | IA_Civitavecchia_R474 |
10.37367341 | BronzAgeBalkan |
10.70144850 | Vucedol_I3499 |
10.81427298 | EMBA_Croatia_I4331 |
11.41200245 | ScythianMoldova_SCY197 |
12.63404527 | BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332 |
13.02699121 | IA_Civitavecchia_R473 |
13.44933827 | ScythianMoldova_SCY300 |
14.74471431 | IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021 |
15.66575884 | IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015 |
15.74114672 | Bavaria_STR310 |
15.76888075 | IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016 |
16.55643681 | IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 |
16.60224684 | IA_Ardea_R851 |
18.01145469 | IronAgeBalkan |
18.58877080 | Scythian_SCY311 |
18.68457385 | IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435 |
18.91148857 | IA_Civitavecchia_R475 |
19.53576208 | MedievalHungarian_DA199 |
20.00811835 | Mycenaean_I9041 |
22.34370829 | BR2_Hungary |
23.08357425 | NorthItalian_HGDP01171 |
23.51881800 | IA_Ardea_R850 |
23.68841278 | Crimean_Goth_KER1 |
Stuvane K15 ancient:
Me, K15 ancient, using 23andme v5
Stuvane K13 Ancient
My K13 ancient
Are all the Antonio et al samples not included in the K13 ancient?
Just for the heck of it, this is the K15 ancient using ancestry
Distance to: Claire 6.23683413 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 10.08218230 IA_Civitavecchia_R474 10.37367341 BronzAgeBalkan 10.70144850 Vucedol_I3499 10.81427298 EMBA_Croatia_I4331 11.41200245 ScythianMoldova_SCY197 12.63404527 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332 13.02699121 IA_Civitavecchia_R473 13.44933827 ScythianMoldova_SCY300 14.74471431 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021 15.66575884 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015 15.74114672 Bavaria_STR310 15.76888075 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016 16.55643681 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 16.60224684 IA_Ardea_R851 18.01145469 IronAgeBalkan 18.58877080 Scythian_SCY311 18.68457385 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435 18.91148857 IA_Civitavecchia_R475 19.53576208 MedievalHungarian_DA199 20.00811835 Mycenaean_I9041 22.34370829 BR2_Hungary 23.08357425 NorthItalian_HGDP01171 23.51881800 IA_Ardea_R850 23.68841278 Crimean_Goth_KER1
@Angela,
You're right, this verifies that other calculators, in this case Dodecad K12b correctly puts me closer to the Iron Age sample 437, than Eurogenes.
An entire Ancient calculator on Dodecad K12b would be ideal for us, indeed. However, there is this odd error with the coordinates. Maybe mlukas can chime in for a solution.For one thing, his calculators are all made to give users more East European, which throws everything off for Italians and Iberians.
If you can upload these ancient samples to the K12b Dodecad on Lukas' site, that would be GREAT!
Some good guy send me K13 Italian regional breakdown (for modern of course). Check it out.
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm
Distance to: | Claire |
---|---|
2.99839957 | Emilia |
3.15726147 | Tuscany |
3.38475996 | Liguria |
3.67819249 | Tuscan |
4.30383550 | Romagna |
5.21252338 | Umbria |
6.16301874 | Lombardy |
6.22120567 | Marche |
6.24877588 | Lazio |
6.80908217 | FrenchCorsica |
7.16684031 | Veneto |
7.74483053 | Piedmont |
8.55386462 | Friuli-VG |
10.40681507 | Trentino |
10.78628759 | Swiss_Italian |
10.85248359 | Swiss-Italian |
11.19184971 | Albanian |
11.27902035 | West_Sicilian |
11.29719134 | Kosovo_Albanian |
12.46015249 | Abruzzo |
12.80389394 | Greek_Thessaly |
13.20890916 | North_Macedonian |
13.28875464 | Basilicata |
13.29574368 | Molise |
13.87101294 | Greek_Peloponnese |
Some good guy send me K13 Italian regional breakdown (for modern of course). Check it out.
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm
..............75.6 | Veneto | ................18.8 | Friuli-VG.............. | 5.6 | Bosniak_Sandzak |
Some good guy send me K13 Italian regional breakdown (for modern of course). Check it out.
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm
Distance to: | Carlos |
---|---|
4.58067681 | Swiss |
5.21342498 | Italian_North |
6.32596238 | Provancestralal |
8.82495326 | Montenegrin |
9.58610453 | Bulgarian |
9.71032955 | Macedonian |
9.96185224 | French |
10.18203320 | German-South |
10.39813926 | Romania |
10.98089250 | Portugese |
11.81142667 | Serbian |
11.99235173 | Italian-North |
12.01633055 | Gagauz |
12.54261934 | Iberian |
13.07867730 | Spaniard |
14.14526423 | Corsican |
15.24446129 | Ashkenazim_V |
15.42628601 | Kosovar |
16.11452140 | CEU |
16.14545757 | British |
17.35571952 | Greek_South |
17.50005143 | Orcadian |
17.72703585 | Austrian |
17.79018550 | German_V |
17.87579928 | Greek_North |
Target | Distance | Basque | Corsican | Croatian | Cypriot | Finnish-North | Georgian_Imereti | Georgian_Laz | German_V | Inkeri | Italian-Center | Italian_North | Kosovar | Latvian | Lumbee | Montenegrin | Moroccan | Mozabite | Polish_V | Sardinian | |
JuanCarlos | 0.76247348 | • | 4.0 | 6.8 | 18.2 | 1.2 | 2.6 | 0.8 | 0.2 | 1.2 | 3.4 | 11.0 | 7.8 | 6.2 | 6.6 | 0.4 | 4.2 | 4.6 | 0.6 | 5.2 | 15.0 |
Average | 0.76247348 | • | 4.0 | 6.8 | 18.2 | 1.2 | 2.6 | 0.8 | 0.2 | 1.2 | 3.4 | 11.0 | 7.8 | 6.2 | 6.6 | 0.4 | 4.2 | 4.6 | 0.6 | 5.2 | 15.0 |
Apulia is my number 1, so it is accurate in my case.
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