• Don't want to see ads? Install an adblocker like uBlock Origin or use a Europe-based privacy-friendly browser like Vivaldi or Mullvad.

Vahaduo NEW! All Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo ON-LINE

Salento said:
... you're not up-to-date :)

Most of the dod K12b Ancient are brand new.
Click to expand...

I know the samples are updated.

But, the calculator itself is outdated.
 
Progon said:
I know the samples are updated.

But, the calculator itself is outdated.
Click to expand...

I'm actually coordinating with someone to produce a brand new calculator.
 
Mine, based on #878 coordinates

Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè

4.67986111 Tuscan_HGDP01164
7.03622768 Tuscan_HGDP01163
7.49227602 Tuscan_HGDP01167
8.32751464 North_Italian_HGDP01152
8.76862019 Tuscan_HGDP01162
9.52916051 North_Italian_HGDP01154
9.60292143 Tuscan_HGDP01166
9.80676807 Tuscan_HGDP01161
9.81247166 North_Italian_HGDP01151
9.92054434 North_Italian_HGDP01172
10.00545851 North_Italian_HGDP01147
10.09604378 Tuscan_HGDP01168
10.22485208 North_Italian_HGDP01173
10.25717797 North_Italian_HGDP01157
10.60537600 Tuscan_HGDP01169
11.31080899 North_Italian_HGDP01177
11.32247764 North_Italian_HGDP01174
11.75348459 North_Italian_HGDP01155
12.97706438 North_Italian_HGDP01171
13.02615830 French_HGDP00520
13.71661766 North_Italian_HGDP01153
14.73681784 North_Italian_HGDP01156
16.98823416 French_HGDP00536
17.01347995 French_HGDP00516
18.62697775 French_HGDP00530

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 4.3794% / 4.37939048 | ADC: 1x
95.0 Tuscan_HGDP01164
5.0 North_Italian_HGDP01154

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 2.2311% / 2.23113672 | ADC: 0.5x
92.8 Tuscan_HGDP01164
5.0 Russian_HGDP00897
2.2 North_Italian_HGDP01154

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 1.2939% / 1.29385713 | ADC: 0.25x
86.6 Tuscan_HGDP01164
6.8 Russian_HGDP00889
5.2 North_Italian_HGDP01154
1.4 Bedouin_HGDP00639

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 0.0981% / 0.09807429
16.2 North_Italian_HGDP01177
15.6 Druze_HGDP00571
11.0 North_Italian_HGDP01147
7.2 North_Italian_HGDP01172
6.8 French_HGDP00533
5.4 Tuscan_HGDP01164
5.2 French_HGDP00534
4.4 Sardinian_HGDP01073
3.6 French_HGDP00538
3.4 Orcadian_HGDP00806
2.4 Tuscan_HGDP01161
2.0 Druze_HGDP00600
2.0 Russian_HGDP00879
1.8 North_Italian_HGDP01152
1.8 Sardinian_HGDP01066
1.4 Druze_HGDP00564
1.2 Tuscan_HGDP01169
1.0 Adygei_HGDP1382
1.0 French_Basque_HGDP01364
1.0 French_HGDP00520
1.0 Sardinian_HGDP01075
0.8 Sardinian_HGDP00670
0.4 Bedouin_HGDP00631
0.4 Bedouin_HGDP00649
0.4 French_HGDP00532
0.4 Mozabite_HGDP01258
0.4 Orcadian_HGDP00801
0.4 Sardinian_HGDP01068
0.2 Bedouin_HGDP00618
0.2 Bedouin_HGDP00630
0.2 Bedouin_HGDP00651
0.2 Mozabite_HGDP01268
0.2 Mozabite_HGDP01277
0.2 Orcadian_HGDP00797
0.2 Russian_HGDP00885
 
Last edited:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]RegioX(FTDNA)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(93.27604819642123, 100%, 50%)"]3.34049398[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01154[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(76.25777326198401, 100%, 50%)"]5.46777834[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01147[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(73.26630337754136, 100%, 50%)"]5.84171208[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01173[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(70.11751409562669, 100%, 50%)"]6.23531074[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01152[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(68.52243984025662, 100%, 50%)"]6.43469502[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01157[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(67.25979143006731, 100%, 50%)"]6.59252607[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00520[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(61.09880816146415, 100%, 50%)"]7.36264898[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01172[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(60.957723621120444, 100%, 50%)"]7.38028455[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01151[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(49.43170116830079, 100%, 50%)"]8.82103735[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01174[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(49.30837673387319, 100%, 50%)"]8.83645291[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00516[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(45.729402856850555, 100%, 50%)"]9.28382464[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01171[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(43.46065064295358, 100%, 50%)"]9.56741867[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00536[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(40.96364380868761, 100%, 50%)"]9.87954452[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01155[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(40.869808543135704, 100%, 50%)"]9.89127393[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01164[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(37.30561324974954, 100%, 50%)"]10.33679834[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01153[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(36.8870455344054, 100%, 50%)"]10.38911931[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01177[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(36.37129679350517, 100%, 50%)"]10.45358790[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01163[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(34.23190336727764, 100%, 50%)"]10.72101208[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00530[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(31.012881831132447, 100%, 50%)"]11.12338977[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(24.315317840314677, 100%, 50%)"]11.96058527[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01156[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(23.380366384466157, 100%, 50%)"]12.07745420[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01162[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(17.538299838427406, 100%, 50%)"]12.80771252[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00521[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(17.44739496239015, 100%, 50%)"]12.81907563[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00538[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(14.492980328321266, 100%, 50%)"]13.18837746[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00525[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(11.801781900070097, 100%, 50%)"]13.52477726[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00512[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]RegioX(23andMe)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(90.28745719397278, 100%, 50%)"]3.71406785[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01154[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(77.28629259827707, 100%, 50%)"]5.33921343[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01147[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(73.23686922371428, 100%, 50%)"]5.84539135[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01173[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(71.46175116467425, 100%, 50%)"]6.06728110[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01152[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(69.61352562442974, 100%, 50%)"]6.29830930[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01157[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(64.23879484803078, 100%, 50%)"]6.97015064[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00520[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(63.90853184306903, 100%, 50%)"]7.01143352[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01151[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(63.03056257957253, 100%, 50%)"]7.12117968[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01172[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(50.615552174856944, 100%, 50%)"]8.67305598[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01174[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(46.50781810287576, 100%, 50%)"]9.18652274[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01171[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(46.343195833650256, 100%, 50%)"]9.20710052[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00516[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(44.40186245680384, 100%, 50%)"]9.44976719[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01164[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(43.10073082271846, 100%, 50%)"]9.61240865[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01155[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(40.61101335827496, 100%, 50%)"]9.92362333[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00536[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(40.250271473816284, 100%, 50%)"]9.96871607[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01163[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(39.067514556885115, 100%, 50%)"]10.11656068[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01177[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(37.79043364668564, 100%, 50%)"]10.27619579[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01153[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(34.534685398110184, 100%, 50%)"]10.68316433[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(31.069969076807382, 100%, 50%)"]11.11625387[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00530[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(27.232867889537502, 100%, 50%)"]11.59589151[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01162[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(25.58969547766516, 100%, 50%)"]11.80128807[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01156[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(13.870268067802982, 100%, 50%)"]13.26621649[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00521[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(13.503352165432005, 100%, 50%)"]13.31208098[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00538[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(12.924579851396317, 100%, 50%)"]13.38442752[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01166[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(11.48357543671095, 100%, 50%)"]13.56455307[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01168[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]Father(23andMe)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(86.94344240547723, 100%, 50%)"]4.13206970[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01154[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(68.91844951452629, 100%, 50%)"]6.38519381[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00520[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(59.254919540756184, 100%, 50%)"]7.59313506[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01173[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(58.89272383750031, 100%, 50%)"]7.63840952[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01147[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(55.48725397256753, 100%, 50%)"]8.06409325[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01152[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(51.79954252352849, 100%, 50%)"]8.52505718[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01157[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(50.44134561393527, 100%, 50%)"]8.69483180[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01151[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(49.624640675872925, 100%, 50%)"]8.79691992[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00516[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(47.33846134301858, 100%, 50%)"]9.08269233[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01172[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(37.1427830542203, 100%, 50%)"]10.35715212[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01174[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(36.02225056599812, 100%, 50%)"]10.49721868[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00536[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(34.99511543446458, 100%, 50%)"]10.62561057[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01164[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(33.51726183798296, 100%, 50%)"]10.81034227[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01171[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(29.294463234045082, 100%, 50%)"]11.33819210[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01163[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(28.678326778360002, 100%, 50%)"]11.41520915[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00530[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(25.98794970856126, 100%, 50%)"]11.75150629[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01155[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(25.578341467648414, 100%, 50%)"]11.80270732[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01153[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(24.595010612651905, 100%, 50%)"]11.92562367[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(20.445697230104585, 100%, 50%)"]12.44428785[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01177[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(19.022251956185897, 100%, 50%)"]12.62221851[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00521[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(18.51300773005437, 100%, 50%)"]12.68587403[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00525[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(17.810904691351737, 100%, 50%)"]12.77363691[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00538[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(14.538090288483758, 100%, 50%)"]13.18273871[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01162[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(14.09042347360652, 100%, 50%)"]13.23869707[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00529[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(13.12865304488767, 100%, 50%)"]13.35891837[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00512[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]Mother(23andMe)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(91.47509158647479, 100%, 50%)"]3.56561355[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01154[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(76.06805262681836, 100%, 50%)"]5.49149342[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01147[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(64.13404614615443, 100%, 50%)"]6.98324423[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01173[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(63.244862787585454, 100%, 50%)"]7.09439215[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01152[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(61.5069234866211, 100%, 50%)"]7.31163456[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01157[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(61.445410085971915, 100%, 50%)"]7.31932374[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00520[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(61.125598092209884, 100%, 50%)"]7.35930024[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01151[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(48.59512621676302, 100%, 50%)"]8.92560922[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01172[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(46.41547988877009, 100%, 50%)"]9.19806501[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00516[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(44.93978950202711, 100%, 50%)"]9.38252631[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00536[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(35.41567048205677, 100%, 50%)"]10.57304119[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01174[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(34.99624478883301, 100%, 50%)"]10.62546940[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00530[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(31.643811761710737, 100%, 50%)"]11.04452353[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01177[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(31.299767756786565, 100%, 50%)"]11.08752903[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01171[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(30.69140242955328, 100%, 50%)"]11.16357470[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01164[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(29.156450972014497, 100%, 50%)"]11.35544363[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01155[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(23.466051567337203, 100%, 50%)"]12.06674355[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian_HGDP01153[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(23.136549720753806, 100%, 50%)"]12.10793128[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01163[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(21.926394988253847, 100%, 50%)"]12.25920063[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00538[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(20.987338183442418, 100%, 50%)"]12.37658273[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00525[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(18.088634588677976, 100%, 50%)"]12.73892068[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan_HGDP01167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(16.999355341823247, 100%, 50%)"]12.87508058[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00529[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(13.552251315492796, 100%, 50%)"]13.30596859[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00521[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(13.067617626838597, 100%, 50%)"]13.36654780[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00537[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: hsl(12.030078262508695, 100%, 50%)"]13.49624022[/TD]
[TD]French_HGDP00512[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Progon said:
I know the samples are updated.

But, the calculator itself is outdated.
Click to expand...

There was a thread where Jovialis ran all the Dodecad calculators, Eurogenes Calculators and MDLP calculators using the Ancient Roman Samples and compared those distances and plots to the ones published in the Antonio/Moots et al 2019 Paper. Guess which ones were closest to the academic ones published in the paper.
 
Investigating the source data of the Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 Ancient calculator I was able to verify that there are not many samples from the Iberian Peninsula. I was able to verify the existence of those that are listed below.

Iberia:
Iberia_Pre_BellBeaker_Chalcolithic_ATP16,4.94,38.80,0.01,0.01,56.23,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
IberiaChalcolithic_I1281,11.39,38.28,0.01,0.01,50.33,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
IberiaChalcolithic_I1303,2.09,42.04,0.01,0.01,55.87,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
IberiaMBA_ATP9,17.71,44.44,0.50,0.01,37.36,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01


Canarias Islands:
Guanche_11,0.01,12.69,0.01,0.01,24.73,0.01,23.27,18.15,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.19,13.56,7.41
Guanche_5,9.80,16.64,0.09,0.01,29.00,0.01,14.44,14.85,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.07,14.12

Out of curiosity I discovered the threads below, respectively created by @Tomenable (Europeans in Zanzibar in 800 CE) and @Ygorcs (Doubts about the "Tanzania_Zanzibar_First Millennium" aDNA sample) where it is discussed how an Iberian European could be found in Zanzibar in 800 CE (I0588_Tanzania_Zanzibar_800AD_outlier_European).

Tomenable said:
I0588 Tanzania Zanzibar, sample published by Pontus Skoglund and dated to 800 AD:

C:\Users\fpess\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image002.jpg


Eurogenes K15 results of this sample:

27834 SNPs used in this evaluation

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 26.89
2 West_Med 26.26
3 North_Sea 24.7
4 East_Med 6.37
5 Baltic 5.24
6 West_Asian 3
7 Red_Sea 2.41
8 Sub-Saharan 2.4
9 Eastern_Euro 1.48
10 Siberian 1.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Galicia 6.55
2 Portuguese 7.09
3 Spanish_Cantabria 7.34
4 Spanish_Cataluna 7.72
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.99
6 Spanish_Extremadura 8.15
7 Spanish_Murcia 8.9
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 9.69
9 Southwest_French 10.05
10 Spanish_Aragon 10.18
11 Spanish_Valencia 10.25
12 Spanish_Andalucia 10.47
13 French 11.81
14 North_Italian 12.6
15 South_Dutch 16.64
16 French_Basque 17.96
17 West_German 18.29
18 Southwest_English 18.53
19 Tuscan 18.61
20 Southeast_English 20.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.1% Orcadian + 44.9% Sardinian @ 4.56
2 60.8% Southwest_English + 39.2% Sardinian @ 5.11
3 55.2% West_Scottish + 44.8% Sardinian @ 5.35
4 55.9% Irish + 44.1% Sardinian @ 5.41
5 58.3% Southeast_English + 41.7% Sardinian @ 5.48
6 59.6% Spanish_Galicia + 40.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.8
7 85.5% Spanish_Galicia + 14.5% French_Basque @ 5.89
8 92% Spanish_Galicia + 8% Sardinian @ 6.11
9 55% North_Dutch + 45% Sardinian @ 6.12
10 73.1% French + 26.9% Sardinian @ 6.18
11 79.4% Spanish_Galicia + 20.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 6.21
12 79.3% Spanish_Galicia + 20.7% Southwest_French @ 6.22
13 83.2% Spanish_Galicia + 16.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6.38
14 80.4% Spanish_Galicia + 19.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.47
15 88.9% Spanish_Galicia + 11.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.47
16 88.9% Spanish_Galicia + 11.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 6.48
17 54.5% Portuguese + 45.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 6.49
18 99.4% Spanish_Galicia + 0.6% Yoruban @ 6.51
19 99.4% Spanish_Galicia + 0.6% Mandenka @ 6.52
20 88% Spanish_Galicia + 12% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.52

Similarity map:

9ry2D0G.png


Europeans in Zanzibar - eastern coast of Africa - as early as 800 CE ???

This sample is also in Global25.
Click to expand...

Ygorcs said:
I decided to post this doubt of mine here so that someone might perhaps help clarify what's happening with the average population DNA sample named TZA_Zanzibar_FirstMillennium in Global25 datasheets. I have googled to try to find the paper that that sample comes from, but couldn't find it. The issue is that, running the sample into nMonte software to model its ancestry, it's clear that it's just too much of an outlier to be believed: the sample is closest to ancient Iberian samples and, among modern populations, also to Iberians. Okay, I wouldn't be totally surprised by a Portuguese trader/sailor being buried in Zanzibar in the 16th or 17th century (though I still think that would be a real find, as they must've been a tiny minority of the total population), but first millennium? Does anyone have any information about that DNA sample, the study that analyzed and released it, the dating and archaeological circumstances? For now I'll just assume that the labeling was totally wrong and it in fact dates to the last centuries.
Click to expand...

As an experiment, I added the coordinates obtained for this sample in Gedmatch by @Tomenable in the Vahaduo EU K15 Ancient source data and, to my surprise, it became my best ancestral match in the Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 Ancient. Below the results. In calculating the mix, I searched for distances close to that displayed by Gedmatch EU V2 K15 'Mixed Mode Population Sharing - Primary Population + Secondary Population'.
Curious.

Gedmatch EU V2 K15 coordinats:
I0588_Tanzania_Zanzibar_800AD_outlier(European),24.70,26.89,5.24,1.48,26.26,3.00,6.37,2.41,0.00,0.00,1.25,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.40

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Duarte[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]6.76977104[/TD]
[TD]I0588_Tanzania_Zanzibar_800AD_outlier(European)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE600, align: right"]8.24704796[/TD]
[TD]IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]9.21567686[/TD]
[TD]IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.48283713[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_CHE_IA_SX18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]10.20174005[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R474[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]10.21657477[/TD]
[TD]IA_Civitavecchia_R473[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9400, align: right"]10.64023026[/TD]
[TD]ScythianMoldova_SCY197[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9400, align: right"]10.64999531[/TD]
[TD]RomanSoldier_FN2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8600, align: right"]11.06359345[/TD]
[TD]IA_Ardea_R851[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7E00, align: right"]11.28990257[/TD]
[TD]IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7900, align: right"]11.45422193[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_DEU_Singen_EBA_MX277[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7200, align: right"]11.65095704[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_Jeb8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7100, align: right"]11.68151531[/TD]
[TD]BronzAgeBalkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.28918223[/TD]
[TD]BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.30414158[/TD]
[TD]IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4800, align: right"]12.86881502[/TD]
[TD]EMBA_Croatia_I4331[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4400, align: right"]13.01338157[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_ERS86[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3300, align: right"]13.49124531[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_DEU_Singen_EBA_MX283_relMX286[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3200, align: right"]13.53752562[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_CHE_EBA_SX20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2500, align: right"]13.91407201[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_NOR4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1500, align: right"]14.39051771[/TD]
[TD]ScythianMoldova_SCY300[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0700, align: right"]14.79033468[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_NOR2B6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0600, align: right"]14.81770563[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_DEU_Singen_EBA_MX254_relMX286[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0003, align: right"]15.09151748[/TD]
[TD]Vucedol_I3499[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF000D, align: right"]15.38797258[/TD]
[TD]BronzeAgeEngland_I2462
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

rIKkhUx.png
 
top 10:
R437 K36 Ancient+ R1 R850 Salento_me :)

... higher distances, ... same Hierarchy as yourDNAportal


mBRmBCF.jpg


id9Fygc.jpg
 
top 10
K36 Ancient: R437 R850 R1

IBuBPrp.jpg



... and Salento_me :grin:

xE7d5CE.jpg
 
Salento said:
top 10
K36 Ancient: R437 R850 R1

IBuBPrp.jpg



... and Salento_me :grin:

xE7d5CE.jpg
Click to expand...

Very interesting, Salento, but what it says to me is that the K15 is terrible for Italians and maybe all Southern Europeans. The fits are much, much worse than with the Dodecad K12b.
 
Duarte said:
@mlukas
Hello mlukas, good evening.
First of all I would like to thank on my behalf and on behalf of the eupedia team all your effort and collaboration in the development of the Dodecad K12b West Eurasia calculator which now is available in the Admixture Studio v2.48 program at www.dnagenics.com


I am making this post just to alert you that I tried to run the calculator 'Dodecad K12b West Eurasia' of dnagenics.com today for two occasions, with the upload of files in both VCF (.txt) and csv (.xlsx) format and the error below was displayed and the admixture has not displayed.

Admixture Calculation started.
SNPs used for the calculation: 160.392
SNPs in calculator: 166.770
Genotype ratio: 96,18%
Elapsed time: 86 seconds
Admixture calculation: 12 - Correct: True
Admixture composition: 12
Start population calculations
Population calculation genomewide
Population file: Dodecad_K12b_V3_Ancient_Commas.txt
Calculate K-Means
Error calculating K-Means: Not enough points. There should be more points than the number K of clusters.
Nome do parâmetro: x
Calculate PCA
Error calculating PCA: Number of outputs should be less than or equal the number of columns in the input data 1.
Nome do parâmetro: value
Calculate N-Monte
Error: Referência de objeto não definida para uma instância de um objeto.
Admixture calculation finished!

Thanks.
Click to expand...
Thank you.
You must contact dnagenics for that. I'm not responsible for this program.
 
Angela said:
Very interesting, Salento, but what it says to me is that the K15 is terrible for Italians and maybe all Southern Europeans. The fits are much, much worse than with the Dodecad K12b.
Click to expand...

... it was out of curiosity :)

I found the K36 ancient coordinates in a folder, I extracted it and reformatted it for compatibility.

I know the order is correct because it matches yourdnaportal website.
 
Salento said:
... it was out of curiosity :)

I found the K36 ancient coordinates in a folder, I extracted it and reformatted it for compatibility.

I know the order is correct because it matches yourdnaportal website.
Click to expand...

K36 has biggest distances from all Eurogenes calculators. It is normal.
 
Salento said:
these are the K36-Ancient coordinates I used ...
Click to expand...

thanks salento :good_job:

my k36 ancient
like my your dna portal

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]adam[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5000, align: right"]12.65305102[/TD]
[TD]EMA_GreekBalkan_AEH_1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2E00, align: right"]13.64229086[/TD]
[TD]R850_Iron_Age_Ardea[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0011, align: right"]15.50188053[/TD]
[TD]CL30_GreeksouthItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0026, align: right"]16.11039726[/TD]
[TD]CL38_GreeksouthItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0044, align: right"]16.98783977[/TD]
[TD]CL25_south_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0068, align: right"]18.04734884[/TD]
[TD]CL31_Greek_Balkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF007B, align: right"]18.62021482[/TD]
[TD]CL121__northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008C, align: right"]19.11710752[/TD]
[TD]SZ36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0093, align: right"]19.32573414[/TD]
[TD]I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0095, align: right"]19.37823263[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Praeneste[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009F, align: right"]19.66186156[/TD]
[TD]i3808_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A5, align: right"]19.84915615[/TD]
[TD]Crimean_Goth_Ker_1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A5, align: right"]19.85204523[/TD]
[TD]SZ32_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00AC, align: right"]20.04655831[/TD]
[TD]SZ43_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E3, align: right"]21.69056707[/TD]
[TD]EMA_Alpine_STR_310[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E5, align: right"]21.74386580[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00F4, align: right"]22.17985573[/TD]
[TD]CL36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FD, align: right"]22.43557220[/TD]
[TD]EN_Anatolia_Tepe002[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FA00FF, align: right"]22.65344124[/TD]
[TD]MA2198_Anatolia_IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F800FF, align: right"]22.71326925[/TD]
[TD]SZ1_GreekBalkan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E500FF, align: right"]23.25793413[/TD]
[TD]Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E100FF, align: right"]23.37450748[/TD]
[TD]CL23_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DB00FF, align: right"]23.57039881[/TD]
[TD]SZ40_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CC00FF, align: right"]23.99231752[/TD]
[TD]SZ37_Greek_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C500FF, align: right"]24.20021488[/TD]
[TD]CHL_Armenia_I1632[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
@KingJohn
... almost :) I added R1, R850, and R437.
 
Thank you very much for the input data K36 @Salento. Very fun :)

My results including the mixed mode, using Vahaduo tool provided by mlukas.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Duarte[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8600, align: right"]11.04991403[/TD]
[TD]EMA_northItalian_FN_2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1400, align: right"]14.40337808[/TD]
[TD]CL94_Iberian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0F00, align: right"]14.54415003[/TD]
[TD]CL36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0029, align: right"]16.20095676[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_RISE373[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0039, align: right"]16.68255676[/TD]
[TD]CL57_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF003B, align: right"]16.73560874[/TD]
[TD]SZ43_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF005B, align: right"]17.68419633[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0065, align: right"]17.97782801[/TD]
[TD]CL23_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0068, align: right"]18.07335055[/TD]
[TD]SZ28_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0070, align: right"]18.30650158[/TD]
[TD]SZ45_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0071, align: right"]18.33766888[/TD]
[TD]SZ36_northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0072, align: right"]18.34074153[/TD]
[TD]I3578_EMA_Andalusia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF007D, align: right"]18.66526721[/TD]
[TD]EMA_northItalian_NW_54[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF007D, align: right"]18.66560741[/TD]
[TD]i3757_Celtiberian_IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0086, align: right"]18.94987599[/TD]
[TD]I10892_Catalonia_medieval[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009B, align: right"]19.56543892[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_RISE247[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B8, align: right"]20.39720324[/TD]
[TD]SZ18_Pannonian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C5, align: right"]20.80011058[/TD]
[TD]CL47_Alpine[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C7, align: right"]20.86432601[/TD]
[TD]CL121__northItalian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CE, align: right"]21.06504925[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_BR2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CE, align: right"]21.06839576[/TD]
[TD]I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00DB, align: right"]21.45052680[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_RISE480[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00DC, align: right"]21.46593813[/TD]
[TD]I1979_Beaker_North_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00DC, align: right"]21.47573514[/TD]
[TD]BA_Hungary_RISE483[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E7, align: right"]21.79636667[/TD]
[TD]Niederstotzingen_north-Italian_3c
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

1wKUTJK.png
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top