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[ssha_cha7]

I do consider it. Really it's just the time, waiting and processing, and in all honesty there are some mysteries but the most is clear.

It's enjoyable to explore the file that's here, passing the time while tech improves.

Until then I'll be making far-fetched theories and working on these readings of Chinese, Mongolian, Chuvash... May all be North_Swedish.

On the other hand, so many matches in South RU for it to simply be ancient.

I have some Sami ancestry. Here are a few of my 100% Sami matches on MyHeritage:

Sami do score some Asian, usually we see a combination of Central Asian, Inuit, Chinese

Udmurt people, Saami from Finland, Chuvash, Mari, Besermyan and Komi people the closest people to the original steppe hunter-gatherers and herders

I noticed when doing official G25 calculations. Very

interesting. Albeit again, each individual has their own unique ancestry makeup and these are only averages.

Each individual will vary in where they are positioned in the PCA chart.

I will try and operate on another theory: all Asiatic signals are North_Swedish. And the origin of R-Z93 is a completely different origin (e.g. More Indo-Iranian). Easily solved with BigY however

Edit: I retract retracting my theory. I think there's a Tatar aspect to all of this

 

[qh777]

I do consider it. Really it's just the time, waiting and processing, and in all honesty there are some mysteries but the most is clear.

It's enjoyable to explore the file that's here, passing the time while tech improves.

Until then I'll be making far-fetched theories and working on these readings of Chinese, Mongolian, Chuvash... May all be North_Swedish.

On the other hand, so many matches in South RU for it to simply be ancient.





I will try and operate on another theory: all Asiatic signals are North_Swedish. And the origin of R-Z93 is a completely different origin (e.g. More Indo-Iranian). Easily solved with BigY however

Edit: I retract retracting my theory. I think there's a Tatar aspect to all of this

You seem interested enough. You should also do the big Y. I’m not exactly sure the furthest you can go back and find a paternal ancestor. It seems like the furthest is the late medieval period. It’ll allow you narrow down your speculation. I’ve taken the big Y and I’m waiting for the results. The company says it may take 12-13 weeks to get the results. Yikes! So for me that’s about 10 more weeks. Unless ftdna is following the motto “under promise and over deliver”.

 

[ssha_cha7]

You seem interested enough. You should also do the big Y. I’m not exactly sure the furthest you can go back and find a paternal ancestor. It seems like the furthest is the late medieval period. It’ll allow you narrow down your speculation. I’ve taken the big Y and I’m waiting for the results. The company says it may take 12-13 weeks to get the results. Yikes! So for me that’s about 10 more weeks. Unless ftdna is following the motto “under promise and over deliver”.

Very possibly. Kind of it's the end of this file. I'll wait for the MH update. And I've contacted about every project on FTDNA where there may be help.

This evening it was specifically Lithuanian and Lipka Tatar. As well as messaging my Lithuanian matches regarding their knowledge of Lipka stories.

This seems a valid possibility. There were major migrations from the former Kazan Khanate to the Baltics in the 1500s. Then major 'wars' in the 1600s which might make someone want to move to Sweden. As is still the case today. Wars push people to Scandinavia.

About 50% of Lipkas carry R1a it seems. The timeline acknowledges my lack of Central Asia, traces of Baltic, and matches in the Tatarstan region.

There was a good hope that a match on FTDNA had the same subclade. However my email was bounced, and some research showed they were not so much around.

All that said, YSEQ R-Z93 may be the way I would go. Though finding the lost Turks of Bashkortostan would be good fun on FTDNA, as well. Kind of just seeing

With some very very unsound math... I experimented with me being theoretically 0.4% Turkic. I calculated a 100% Tatar Lithuanian in 1630.

And theoretically pictured below 1-10% Tatar

Smolensk War - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Pushed by any number of wars

 

[qh777]

Qh777_mergedAncestryMH23&Mev4v5_scaled,0.129758,0.139128,0.057322,0.03553,0.040315,0.011156,-0.00611,0.003923,0.005113,0.008565,-0.009094,0.009891,-0.008622,-0.020231,0.023208,0.010475,-0.004433,-0.000507,0.004022,0.003001,0.011729,0.004699,-0.00419,0.015544,0.001437

Qh777_Mergedfile_simulated_eydna_scaled,0.130458,0.138214,0.058176,0.037855,0.037562,0.014696,0.003263,0.004772,0.004729,0.007428,-0.003144,0.007485,-0.016607,-0.017692,0.022716,0.003051,-0.010941,0.001662,0.001978,0.001501,0.00507,0.004378,0.000304,0.014617,8.2E-05


The Bottom G25 coords were simulated from https://www.exploreyourdna.com/rawtosimg25.aspx

You will see some similarities (depending on samples used) in the admixture calculations, but the noticeable difference is in the distances and fit numbers.

 

[ssha_cha7]

I don't want to assume that was in reply to me however to elaborate, specifically this is the unscaled. My understanding being the process of unscaled -> scaled isn't great for smaller percentages. They somewhat get erased

So things like

China WLR BA O
1.20%

Are only in the unscaled and disappear. I'm not saying I take the unscaled literally, they're unstable. Just that they need application, and such results might actually be a clue in this case. Even if such overlap is commonplace, which it surely is.

For instance, a Turkic-like group as read by Dodecad could be categorically Baltic to MyHeritage. But in G25, aspects could be categorized very differently, and so Dodecad Chuvash, MyHeritage Baltic, and Unscaled_G25 BA China could be referencing the same segments. A remote possibility.

At the very very least, my GG-GF does have an interesting Chinese aspect to his appearance, especially if I look at the picture upside down

Really it's not super important. It's been fun to make it this far. Turks are the best whether I relate or not. I'll simply be keeping an eye to make the Lipka connection with any matches that appear. But triangulation, and more testing... it's fine as is.

Funny all of this "conquerer" ancestry. Vikings, Jutes, possibly Golden Horde haplogroup. Doesn't really suit me

 

[HereToLearn]

This is what I have. I got them from https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

Ignore the bottom 3 those are I think modern I added because I couldn't find them in the other scaled modern list on that site.