K13 My Eurogenes K13 results

[Javen]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit CA5957892

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 84.57
2 South_Asian 7.66
3 Oceanian 3.91
4 Baltic 1.77
5 Siberian 1.22
6 West_Med 0.56
7 Sub-Saharan 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Vietnamese 6.27
2 Dai 7.55
3 Cambodian 10.09
4 Lahu 10.24
5 Malay 13.85
6 She 15.6
7 Miaozu 15.8
8 Tujia 18.49
9 Yizu 27.76
10 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 29.28
11 Naxi 29.75
12 Tu 37.43
13 Japanese 37.5
14 Xibo 49.84
15 Hezhen 51.49
16 Uygur 67.56
17 Hazara 72.38
18 Kirgiz 73.31
19 Mongolian 73.71
20 Kazakh 74.58

 

[qh777]

Thank you for sharing. The Dai if I'm not mistaken, are an ethnic group found in southern China that are related to the Vietnamese. My knowledge of East Asian history is very limited but I think Chinese civilization started in between and the Yellow and Yangtze rivers. Southern China was more like the peoples from Vietnam in terms of culture. Chinese writers at the time called the people Yue. And would call them collectively the 100 Yue because of many tribes living there.

 

[Javen]

Thank you for sharing. The Dai if I'm not mistaken, are an ethnic group found in southern China that are related to the Vietnamese. My knowledge of East Asian history is very limited but I think Chinese civilization started in between and the Yellow and Yangtze rivers. Southern China was more like the peoples from Vietnam in terms of culture. Chinese writers at the time called the people Yue. And would call them collectively the 100 Yue because of many tribes living there.

The Yue are the ancestors of most Southeast Asians from what I have read

 

[Kirgonix Pereira]

-------------------------------------- MY EUROGENES K13 --------------------------------------

Eurogenes K13 Ancient Samples (Genoplot)
1 CL94 collegno italy longobard 4.88
2 IA Civitavecchia R474 7.31
3 I12516 iberia 7.59
4 IA Prenestina Colombella ... 7.79
5 I7498 Muslim Iberian 1000... 8.41
6 RISE254 Szazhalombatta Fo... 8.85
7 I6581 Silesia Bell Beaker... 9.33
8 CrusaderSI40KingdomofJeru... 9.39
9 I7498 Muslim Iberian 1000... 9.49
10 CL23 collegno italy longo... 9.70
11 SZ28 szolad hungary longo... 10.04
12 IA Ardea R851 10.30
13 I12644 Muslim Iberian 110... 10.35
14 IA Civitavecchia R473 10.41
15 IA Boville Ernica R1021 10.58
16 I12647 iberia2 10.90
17 I12647 iberia 10.98
18 I6582 Silesia Bell Beaker 11.06
19 ScythianMoldova SCY197 Mo... 11.19

Eurogenes K13 Ancient Mixed Oracle (Genoplot)
1 73.2% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 26.8% I12644 Muslim Iberian 1100 1300 CE2 3.30
2 91.4% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 8.6% KEB 4 (Morocco. 5000 BP keb.4 Morocco 3780-3650y.old 3.54
3 73.2% I12516 iberia + 26.8% CrusaderSI47KingdomofJerusalem 3.59
4 81.2% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 18.8% I3807 morisco 3.61
5 67.2% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 32.8% I12516 iberia 3.62
6 84.8% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 15.2% I2440 Neolithic Paluki GAC culture I2 I2 3.66
7 86.4% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 13.6% I0840 beaker iberia 3.74
8 88.2% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 11.8% NeolithicIreland Ireland 3.77
9 84% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 16% ILK001 Neolithic Podolia GAC I2a I2a 3.78
10 90% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 10% I5358 Neolithic Wales 5kya 3.83
11 87.4% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 12.6% I2434 Neolithic Paluki GAC culture 3.87
12 89.2% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 10.8% I2405 Neolithic Paluki GAC culture I2a I2a 3.91
13 90% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 10% I1392 Beaker No Steppe France 4kya 3.91
14 90.8% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 9.2% I2977 Neolithic Orkney 5kya 3.92
15 61.4% I12516 iberia + 38.6% I6582 Silesia Bell Beaker 3.96
16 90.4% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 9.6% NE2 Debrecen Tocopart Erd?alja Hungary 5060 5290 cal BC F HV 3.97
17 90.4% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 9.6% I2650 Neolithic Orkney 5kya 3.97
18 94.4% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 5.6% Hung2 P1 Polgar Ferenci hat Hungary 6300 6100 years 3.98

Eurogenes K13 2-Ancestors Oracle (Genoplot)
1 50% SZ32 szolad hungary longobard + 50% I8474 iberia 2.89
2 50% I8474 iberia + 50% SZ37 szolad hungary longobard 2.94
3 50% CL36 collegno italy longobard + 50% I8474 iberia 3.10
4 50% SZ43.SG szolad hungary longobard + 50% I8474 iberia 3.38
5 50% I8474 iberia + 50% SZ36.SG szolad hungary longobard 3.38
6 50% IA Protovillanovan Martinsicuro R1 + 50% I8474 iberia 3.60
7 50% I12644 Muslim Iberian 1100 1300 CE2 + 50% I6582 Silesia Bell Beaker 3.78
8 50% I6581 Silesia Bell Beaker R1b R1b + 50% I12644 Muslim Iberian 1100 1300 CE2 3.84
9 50% I8474 iberia + 50% I7424 morisco2 3.87
10 50% I6581 Silesia Bell Beaker R1b R1b + 50% I12647 iberia2 3.89
11 50% CL94 collegno italy longobard + 50% I12516 iberia 4.00
12 50% SZ27 szolad hungary longobard + 50% ILK002 Neolithic Podolia GAC I2a I2a 4.10
13 50% I6581 Silesia Bell Beaker R1b R1b + 50% I12647 iberia 4.16
14 50% I8474 iberia + 50% SZ31 Longobard M T1a1a PF5620 U4c2a 6-th century 4.24
15 50% SZ27 szolad hungary longobard + 50% I2440 Neolithic Paluki GAC culture I2 I2 4.26
16 50% SZ27 szolad hungary longobard + 50% ILK001 Neolithic Podolia GAC I2a I2a 4.28
17 50% CL23 collegno italy longobard + 50% RISE483 Erd 4 Hungary CT M5751 H2a1 4.34
18 50% I7498 Muslim Iberian 1000 1100 CE E1b1b1a1b1a H3a1 2 + 50% I6581 Silesia Bell Beaker R1b R1b 4.36


Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle (GedMatch)

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 French_Basque + French_Basque + Libyan_Jewish + Moldavian @ 3.914554
2 Croatian + French_Basque + French_Basque + Libyan_Jewish @ 3.998343
3 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + French_Basque + Moldavian @ 4.060354
4 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + French_Basque + Romanian @ 4.211587
5 French_Basque + French_Basque + Moldavian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.240943
6 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.267353
7 French_Basque + French_Basque + Moldavian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.294652
8 Croatian + French_Basque + French_Basque + Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.320025
9 Algerian_Jewish + Croatian + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 4.326715
10 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.338016
11 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + French_Basque + Serbian @ 4.349707
12 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.391629
13 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.392831
14 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 4.396625
15 Bulgarian + French_Basque + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.396626
16 French_Basque + French_Basque + Moldavian + South_Italian @ 4.416726
17 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.423043
18 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.439857
19 Algerian + French_Basque + French_Basque + Moldavian @ 4.450437
20 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.455090

 

[HereToLearn]

My results, from Lombardy (and some distant family from Veneto):


Eurogenes K13
Global Admix

1 North Atlantic 30.18%
2 West Med 23.15%
3 East Med 19.31%
4 Baltic 14.99%
5 West Asian 8.47%
6 Red Sea 2.78%
7 Siberian 0.61%
8 Oceanian 0.38%
9 Sub Saharan 0.12%

Eurogenes K13
Ancient Populations - Eurogenes

SZ36.SG Szolad Hungary Longobard 55.80%
DA195 Hungary Scythian 22.00%
IA Civitavecchia R474 15.40%
ILK002 Neolithic Podolia GAC I2a I2a 5.00%
I12647 Iberia 1.40%
CL36 Collegno Italy Longobard 0.40%

Eurogenes K13
Modern Populations - Eurogenes

North Italian 73.20%
Romanian 22.40%
Tuscan 2.40%
Serbian 1.20%
West German 0.60%
Lezgin 0.20%

Anyone can tell me if those are standard results for modern Northern Italians?

 

[qh777]

My results, from Lombardy (and some distant family from Veneto):


Eurogenes K13
Global Admix

1 North Atlantic 30.18%
2 West Med 23.15%
3 East Med 19.31%
4 Baltic 14.99%
5 West Asian 8.47%
6 Red Sea 2.78%
7 Siberian 0.61%
8 Oceanian 0.38%
9 Sub Saharan 0.12%

Eurogenes K13
Ancient Populations - Eurogenes

SZ36.SG Szolad Hungary Longobard 55.80%
DA195 Hungary Scythian 22.00%
IA Civitavecchia R474 15.40%
ILK002 Neolithic Podolia GAC I2a I2a 5.00%
I12647 Iberia 1.40%
CL36 Collegno Italy Longobard 0.40%

Eurogenes K13
Modern Populations - Eurogenes

North Italian 73.20%
Romanian 22.40%
Tuscan 2.40%
Serbian 1.20%
West German 0.60%
Lezgin 0.20%

Anyone can tell me if those are standard results for modern Northern Italians?

I prefer Gedmatch's Eurogenes K13 That looks like that's from DNAGenics.

 

[HereToLearn]

That looks like that's from DNAGenics.

Your assumption is correct.

 

[qh777]

Your assumption is correct.

I don't care for the ancient sample selection or DNAGenics is using all ancient samples in that calculation. I prefer doing ancient ancestry modeling with samples that come from the same time period. And that is what Illustrativedna.com does. Your results are divided by time periods like the Bronze Age, Iron Age, Migration Period, and Medieval:

 

[ssha_cha7]

Pretty neat, not knowing too much myself, was interesting to see the Siberian percentage. Mine gets a small boost from N_S. I also think attachments are disabled for me so here's a snapshot: (edit: oops nevermind post is from 2023)

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.594671
2 North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.599960
3 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.635920
4 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.675445

___

North_Atlantic50.56 Pct
Baltic27.24 Pct
West_Med11.31 Pct
West_Asian3.73 Pct
East_Med5.08 Pct
Red_Sea-
South_Asian-
East_Asian-
Siberian1.37 Pct
Amerindian-
Oceanian0.66 Pct
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan0.05 Pct

 

[qh777]

if anyone wants to see boring Celto-Germanic

I don't think it's boring.

 

[ssha_cha7]

I don't think it's boring.

Fair enough, and there are interesting quirks to everyone's results. I do try avoid calculators with CEU, though (75.2% CEU30 ). However, this class may have interesting use in the increasingly mixed future.

 

[qh777]

Pretty neat, not knowing too much myself, was interesting to see the Siberian percentage. Mine gets a small boost from N_S. I also think attachments are disabled for me so here's a snapshot: (edit: oops nevermind post is from 2023)

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.594671
2 North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.599960
3 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.635920
4 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.675445

___

North_Atlantic50.56 Pct
Baltic27.24 Pct
West_Med11.31 Pct
West_Asian3.73 Pct
East_Med5.08 Pct
Red_Sea-
South_Asian-
East_Asian-
Siberian1.37 Pct
Amerindian-
Oceanian0.66 Pct
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan0.05 Pct


please do not quote my coordinates but if anyone wants to see boring Celto-Germanic I'll set them here for a little:

Ssha_simulated_g25_scaled,0.131815,0.138708,0.065947,0.049273,0.04487,0.01953,0.004429,0.006897,0.006847,0.001575,-0.006579,0.003105,-0.007968,-0.002515,0.017658,0.00667,-0.006099,0.0016,0.003037,0.003759,0.004873,-0.000736,0.001274,0.009336,0.001261

And now new Genoplot coordinates

sshh-Ksim_scaled,0.1302,0.1326,0.0653,0.0488,0.0405,0.0169,0.0067,0.009,0.0059,0.0014,-0.002,0.0022,-0.01,-0.0086,0.02,0.0112,0.0009,0.0005,0.0028,0.007,0.0071,0.0027,0.0011,0.0051,-0.0019

I made a thread btw where you can share and compare g25 coordinates. I just posted my coordinates in the thread.