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MikeG

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Hi. I'm wondering how much Roman-like autosomal dna shows up in the Scottish people. I read the article here about the British and Irish and it said maybe a few percent West Asian and one or two percent Southwest Asian. My great grandfather was from Northern Ireland - basically Scotland and people I match for him also have a lot of Middle Eastern on those segments.
I have a grandfather from Sweden and my other ancestry is English and German. I'm American.

Here is my results from K13:


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[TD="align: left"]EG K13[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Population[/TD]
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[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]North_Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]47.50 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Baltic[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]22.71 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]West_Med[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]12.91 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]West_Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]6.60 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]East_Med[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]7.22 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Red_Sea[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]0.83 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]South_Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]- [/TD]

[TD="align: left"]East_Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]0.14 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]0.67 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Amerindian[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1.03 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Oceanian[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]0.40 Pct[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Northeast_African[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]- [/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Sub-Saharan[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]- [/TD]


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I think that Roman DNA in the Scots is about 1 to 3%.

… disregarding the calculator assumptions.

LivingDNA (UK biz) used to assign Tuscany to the British and the British Isle to the Italians.

I’ve always thought that LivingDNA detected Roman DNA in the British Isle, but wrongly assigned to the Italians as British DNA.

… more or less many Southern Italians like me got results similar to the image below.
imho the percentages below indicate the distribution of some of my Roman DNA among the Brits.

EogjlIQ.jpg
 
Ok. I'm just trying to find out if the Middle Eastern in my Scottish ancestry is some kind of Roman noise. Are there any Gedmatch calculators that do reference Roman-like dna?
 
MikeG said:
Ok. I'm just trying to find out if the Middle Eastern in my Scottish ancestry is some kind of Roman noise. Are there any Gedmatch calculators that do reference Roman-like dna?
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Classical Romans don't carry that much Middle Eastern (if any) for you to have noise from them … after 1.700 years.

Try:
mytrueancestry site

or try this:
your EuroG. K13 Coordinates:

Code: 
MikeG,47.50,22.71,12.91,6.60,7.22,0.83,0,0.14,0.67,1.03,0.40,0,0

https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]MikeG[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7AFF00, align: right"]3.58626547[/TD]
[TD]I2458_England_MBA_3340_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #84FF00, align: right"]3.88110809[/TD]
[TD]SZ24_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #85FF00, align: right"]3.89728110[/TD]
[TD]SZ38_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9EFF00, align: right"]4.64403919[/TD]
[TD]SZ8_Hungary_Langobard_sister.SZ14_sister.SZ6_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A5FF00, align: right"]4.86069954[/TD]
[TD]I1767_England_Bell_Beaker_4035_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A8FF00, align: right"]4.94779749[/TD]
[TD]CL87_longobard_north_italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ABFF00, align: right"]5.04030753[/TD]
[TD]R1286_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.09343695[/TD]
[TD]US-14_Colonist.SG_291_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AFFF00, align: right"]5.15530794[/TD]
[TD]SZ12_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AFFF00, align: right"]5.15958332[/TD]
[TD]SZ30_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.46832698[/TD]
[TD]I4946_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4172_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.47568261[/TD]
[TD]M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BFFF00, align: right"]5.62587771[/TD]
[TD]I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C9FF00, align: right"]5.91036378[/TD]
[TD]6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]5.96148471[/TD]
[TD]I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CCFF00, align: right"]5.98666017[/TD]
[TD]France_BA_RIX4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]6.18534558[/TD]
[TD]France_BA_BIS385[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]6.23933490[/TD]
[TD]Crusader_SI39_Kingdom_of_Jerusalem_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]6.51655584[/TD]
[TD]I4887_Czech_Bell_Beaker_brother.I4888_4070_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]6.82874073[/TD]
[TD]I7196_Czech_EBA_4250_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]6.85219673[/TD]
[TD]I2568_Scotland_CA_EBA_4113_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]6.92161831[/TD]
[TD]I6480_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4150_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]6.93024531[/TD]
[TD]I8206_iberia_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]6.93862378[/TD]
[TD]I7278_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4350_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EEFF00, align: right"]6.99950713[/TD]
[TD]I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F0FF00, align: right"]7.06717765[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_BFM265[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]7.07911718[/TD]
[TD]3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F2FF00, align: right"]7.12096201[/TD]
[TD]RISE97_Sweden_LN.SG_3905_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.14059521[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_BES1248[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.14627176[/TD]
[TD]I4895_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4110_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F8FF00, align: right"]7.28711877[/TD]
[TD]R1288_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F8FF00, align: right"]7.29809564[/TD]
[TD]I7210_Czech_Bell_Beaker_father.or.son.I7212_4050_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]7.51600958[/TD]
[TD]SZ14_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFC00, align: right"]7.58873507[/TD]
[TD]I7287_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4200_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]7.63696275[/TD]
[TD]vik_nuf002_Sweden_Viking.SG_900_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF900, align: right"]7.66186661[/TD]
[TD]SZ42_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF800, align: right"]7.71390951[/TD]
[TD]I5383_England_LBA_2945_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.92920551[/TD]
[TD]I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.93861449[/TD]
[TD]I5441_England_CA_EBA_3750_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.94616889[/TD]
[TD]CL102_longobard_north_italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.95467787[/TD]
[TD]R106_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]7.96001884[/TD]
[TD]R31_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]7.97203236[/TD]
[TD]rath2_Ireland_BA.SG_3833_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]7.97613315[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_ERS1164[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEE00, align: right"]7.98995620[/TD]
[TD]I2981_Scotland_CA_EBA_3703_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEE00, align: right"]8.01210958[/TD]
[TD]CL83_longobard_north_italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.03888674[/TD]
[TD]I2602_England_CA_EBA_3745_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEC00, align: right"]8.06393204[/TD]
[TD]I6680_England_CA_EBA_3702_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEB00, align: right"]8.08884417[/TD]
[TD]6DT21_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE800, align: right"]8.17617881[/TD]
[TD]I7576_England_MBA_3400_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE300, align: right"]8.32375516[/TD]
[TD]I2573_Scotland_MBA_3352_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]8.34643037[/TD]
[TD]I2859_Scotland_LBA_2811_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]8.34783205[/TD]
[TD]I4891_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4122_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.36818379[/TD]
[TD]SZ7_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.36909792[/TD]
[TD]I7627_England_MBA_3400_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.37472985[/TD]
[TD]I7628_England_MBA_3400_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]8.43525340[/TD]
[TD]SZ15_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDF00, align: right"]8.45556621[/TD]
[TD]SZ3_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDE00, align: right"]8.47764118[/TD]
[TD]I4896_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4165_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]8.50412841[/TD]
[TD]I7578_England_MBA_3400_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]8.51022914[/TD]
[TD]I7282_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4200_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDC00, align: right"]8.52289857[/TD]
[TD]I7289_Czech_Bell_Beaker_sibling.I7214_4300_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.57461953[/TD]
[TD]I4178_Hungary_Bell_Beaker_EBA_4300_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDA00, align: right"]8.58075172[/TD]
[TD]I7211_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4150_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD900, align: right"]8.60525421[/TD]
[TD]I7249_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4000_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD700, align: right"]8.66242460[/TD]
[TD]CL84_longobard_north_italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD700, align: right"]8.66624486[/TD]
[TD]I2860_Scotland_LBA_2843_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD600, align: right"]8.69553334[/TD]
[TD]I1775_Wales_CA_EBA_3597_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD500, align: right"]8.72967926[/TD]
[TD]I0113_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4140_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]8.77731736[/TD]
[TD]vik_grt035_Sweden_Viking.SG_996_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD300, align: right"]8.78158300[/TD]
[TD]Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.80927920[/TD]
[TD]I2609_England_CA_EBA_3848_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.81469228[/TD]
[TD]CL92_longobard_north_italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.82582574[/TD]
[TD]France_BA_OBE3626-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.82809719[/TD]
[TD]Alh1_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1500_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.87444646[/TD]
[TD]I7212_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4300_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCF00, align: right"]8.92473529[/TD]
[TD]I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]8.95636087[/TD]
[TD]I2655_Scotland_MBA_3308_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]8.97166651[/TD]
[TD]I2445_England_Bell_Beaker_4114_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]8.98867065[/TD]
[TD]I1390_France_Bell_Beaker_4383_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCC00, align: right"]8.99154603[/TD]
[TD]I7269_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4200_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCB00, align: right"]9.01646272[/TD]
[TD]I7640_England_MBA_3316_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.05214339[/TD]
[TD]6DT23_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.06554466[/TD]
[TD]I3589_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4175_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.06716053[/TD]
[TD]I7575_England_MBA_3400_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC900, align: right"]9.07991189[/TD]
[TD]SZ23_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]9.14366994[/TD]
[TD]I2566_England_CA_EBA_4070_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]9.16660242[/TD]
[TD]STR480_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]9.20992942[/TD]
[TD]STR355c_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.27703616[/TD]
[TD]I4888_Czech_Bell_Beaker_4060_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.27793080[/TD]
[TD]SZ22_Longobard_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.28554253[/TD]
[TD]I3132_Scotland_CA_EBA_3954_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.28608098[/TD]
[TD]I5377_England_CA_EBA_3745_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.29885477[/TD]
[TD]Albertsdedt_Germany_LN_M107790_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]9.33100745[/TD]
[TD]I5529_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4250_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]9.33557711[/TD]
[TD]I2452_England_Bell_Beaker_4049_ybp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC000, align: right"]9.33838316[/TD]
[TD]R1219_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBF00, align: right"]9.36867653[/TD]
[TD]France_IA_NOR3-6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBF00, align: right"]9.38670336[/TD]
[TD]Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2a1_[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBE00, align: right"]9.42114643[/TD]
[TD]I5043_Unetice_[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


fyi … the England Romans are not Classical Romans, they’re Gladiators.
 
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Thanks Salento. I always thought the Romans in Britain were mercenaries or people from the margins of the empire. That's why I thought there might be Caucasus or middle east in there. Some of my Scottish ancestry is also paired with some Russian or Siberian so originally I thought all of that was coming from Vikings - maybe slaves traded from the Volga region. I don't know. Maybe that is a better bet than Roman then.
 

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 3"]Target: MaxK13
Distance: 1.2124% / 1.21244882
[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]51.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Norwegian[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]33.7[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Belorussian[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]7.9[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Southwest_Finnish[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]3.9[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Moldova_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]1.9[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Yemenite_Jewish[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Lebanese_Druze[/TD]
 
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