@kingjohn I came across SZ18 on FTDNA as a very distant match under E-PH2818, and then I thought about your posting from a while ago. SZ18 is of course form a paternal Longobard line, and looks autosomal a little southern admixed much CEU even a tpcu of FIN, what makes it very Nordic, and a shot of TSI, the comes near Northern France, Belgium, Western Germany.You welcome
My last gift for you and e- v22 group ( if i will something else i will post it here):cool-v:
https://dna-explained.com/2020/10/1...t-does-their-dna-tell-us-are-you-related/amp/
Sample: SZ18
Location: Szólád, Somogy County, Hungary
Age: Longobard 6th Century
Y-DNA: E-BY6865
FTDNA Comment: Shares 1 SNP with a man from Morocco. Forms a new branch down of E-BY6865. New branch = E-FT198679
mtDNA: H13a1a2
What really made me think twice, because in my case the E-V22 is from a Frisian paternal ancestry. And during the migration ages people from also Suebi/ Northern Germany ancestry went to Friesland. So makes it to a kind of alternative scenario. Because my pet theory was: it -E-V22- came with the Romans towards the Rhine. So always associated it more with Roman soldiers planting in Germania.... But the Roman border never reached the heartland of the Longobards....so mmmm
Thanks @kingjohn !!!@kingjohn I came across SZ18 on FTDNA as a very distant match under E-PH2818, and then I thought about your posting from a while ago. SZ18 is of course form a paternal Longobard line, and looks autosomal a little southern admixed much CEU even a touch of FIN, what makes it very Nordic, and a shot of TSI, this comes near nowadays Northern France, Belgium, Western Germany.
And you showed this for Northern Italy:
What really made me think twice, because in my case the E-V22 is from a Frisian paternal ancestry. And during the migration ages people from also Suebi/ Northern Germany ancestry went to Friesland. So this makes it to a kind of alternative scenario. Because my pet theory was: it -E-V22- came with the Romans towards the Rhine. So always associated it more with Roman soldiers planting in Germania.... But the Roman border never reached the heartland of the Longobards....so mmmm
I'd say from levant then through egypt 8k years ago
sample to e-v22. Saho language speaker under E-Y100656
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Yes, this study tested for M78* only, which may include M22 and M12(there are known case from 23andMe), less likely V65. This is 1.5%, not insignificant as this is around the percent of the whole haplogroup I2-M223 and T, for example.very nice
this paper:
didn't checked for the v22 snp among bulgarians which is a shameY-Chromosome Diversity in Modern Bulgarians: New Clues about Their Ancestry
To better define the structure and origin of the Bulgarian paternal gene pool, we have examined the Y-chromosome variation in 808 Bulgarian males. The analysis was performed by high-resolution genotyping of biallelic markers and by analyzing the STR variation ...
because there is a big chance most of the e-m78( x v13 ) bulgarian cases in that paper could be really under e-v22
( along with maybe some e-L618)
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www.biorxiv.org
Great find King John, many thanks!!!!!it is interesting in the latest
paper on indo-europeans
while not relevant to e1b1b1 ( more to other y haplogroups)The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
The Yamnaya archaeological complex appeared around 3300BCE across the steppes north of the Black and Caspian Seas, and by 3000BCE reached its maximal extent from Hungary in the west to Kazakhstan in the east. To localize the ancestral and geographical origins of the Yamnaya among the diverse...
there is something who caught my eye
individual I1710 jordan ppnb who was only at the level of e-m78
was analysed again in better coverage
I1710_enhanced and he is now at the e-z1919 level ( the ancestor of e-v22 and e-L618)
that is very cool
P.s
also expert ted kandell at twitter notice it:
Last but not least, this study re-sequenced other ancient samples from different places.Sample I1710 from Ain Ghazal in Jordan 7741-7522 calBCE was re-sequenced and found to be E-Z1919* negative for L618 and V22. This is now our oldest E-Z1919 model.
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