Mars
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- Ethnic group
- Italian
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b1a2a1a1b3
- mtDNA haplogroup
- HV
I'm not fully ligurian indeed. My maternal grandfather was from Padua, Veneto. One of my maternal great grandmothers was from the emilian appennine near Modena. My paternal grandma was from Parma, Emilia. My part venetian ancestry could explain the higher than average north eastern euro, I suppose.Actually, although your numbers definitely have a "Northern Italian" look to them, they are a bit different from the published averages for northern Italians.
Your Northeastern number is very high, for example, especially for someone from Liguria, and yet the Caucasus number is a little high for a northerner as well, and I've never seen a Ligurian or Lombard or Tuscan for that matter score an African number. The only "northern Italian" group that seems to score an African percentage is the OT group. (They get .8 for it as an average.) I just assumed that was a group of mixed southern and northern Italians, but Sile posted that they're from the far northeastern mountainous areas, near Austria. I have no idea what population movement could have been responsible for it, but the neighboring Tyrol also harbors some rather "exotic" clusters for that geographical area. I mention it because I think I recall that you posted that one of your grandparents is from the northeast? Perhaps from that area?
Here are the actual averages from Dodecad "Euro 7" for the northern Italians.
HGDP sample/Bergamo
SW 34.3
NW 31
SE 27.9
NE 4.8
Caucasus 2
Far Asia 0
Africa 0
Dodecad Project North Italians
NW 31.4
SE 28.8
SW 27.9
NE 9.4
Caucasus 2.5
Far Asia 0
Africa 0
My "african" 1% is a total mystery to me. Other Dodecad calculators call it "palaeo african" so it should be a very ancient component. I have two theories: maybe it's just some noise (other calculators even found arctic and amerindian...) you know Dodecad is not a scientific project, just amateur. Since other calculators call it "paeleo african", maybe it's a very ancestral component which survived to millennia of admixture instead, only God knows why.