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Religion Christianity is a religion of peace, tolerance, forgiveness, love and redemption.

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Christianity is one of the world's great religions, with over a billion adherents in 160 countries. Christians are involved in some of the most charitable and honorable works on the planet and are as a group taught the virtues of tolerance, love, and forgiveness. It is a faith whose main theme is redemption. I believe it is time to unveil the positive impact of the life and words of Christ.

I am starting this thread for balance- because having four threads whose purpose was to slam this ancient and venerable religion seemed rather unfair. There seems to be an inbalance of negativity in this forum and I would like a place where Christians and others can speak about the positive aspect of the faith without being criticized, hammered, bothered, molested, slammed or ridiculed.

What are the positive things you associate with the Christian faith?
 
Charity, acceptance of a person no matter how they appear, good will towards most of mankind, a good sense of a moral right and wrong, and it helped many countries avert war and helped settle countless disputes over the course of history.
 
I associate charitable works- plenty of hospitals, food banks, homeless shelters, orphanages-- with Christianity. I believe the work of the Christian Church at large is to be the hands, feet and voice of Christ on this planet.

Mother Theresa and her Calcutta mission was founded just to give the abject a decent place to die. The Civil Rights movement was led by Baptist preachers such as Martin Luther King, Jr. Even abolition had evangelists such as John Brown at the forefront.

I remember a tough stretch a few years ago when food showed up on my door when I needed it. I don't know who did it or how they knew, but thank God it was there. I have had other assistance from my local church-- right now., their prayers in my families time of need is absolutely invaluable.
 
Christianity is a religion of peace, tolerance, forgiveness, love...

Some real world events show otherwise.

Was Joan of Ark being burned to the stake in collaberation with the Christian Church an act of love?
 
sabro said:
Mother Theresa and her Calcutta mission was founded just to give the abject a decent place to die.
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Ingrid Newkirk, leader and co-founder of PETA, lived in India with her mother who was a volunteer for Mother Theresa`s work. Living in India, helping her mother wrap the bandages of lepers, gave her one of her first glimpses of animal suffering, the human and non-human. I am glad Mother Theresa helped animals. It was a gateway experience for Ingrid as her mother pulled her on the road toward her destiny -- all in part due to Mother Theresa.

All animals owe a debt of appreciation toward Mother Theresa.
 
Joan of Arc was burned at the stake by the English. Both sides claimed God was on their side and her conviction of heresy (for hearing the audible voice of God)was overturned and she achieved saint hood. War is a hellish institution that existed well before Christianity and plenty of wars and injustices have happened apart from Christianity. In every war one side or another will probably claim some blessing by God. The real causes of wars are far more complex. Some real world events may support your claim, but history as a whole does not.

I'm thinking more in terms of the countless people that are helped each day by humble churches- People that have overcome addictions, that have emotional and physical needs met, that have benefitted from the love, comfort and actions of people that claim to love Jesus.
 
The church in our community actively sends people on mission trips to help with aide efforts in many different countries, as well as provides many services for the community that help numerous people with emotional problems.
 
sabro said:
Joan of Arc was burned at the stake by the English. Both sides claimed God was on their side and her conviction of heresy (for hearing the audible voice of God)was overturned and she achieved saint hood.
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Her murder was done in complicity with the English and the Christian church had a hand in it (if not a torch to set the kindling ablaze).

I don`t think her screaming self was concerned about Saint Hood as the flames ate away her skin and she became charred. Granting her Saint Hood did nothing to erase that pain -- but it probably did make those institutions guilty of her murder feel a little better about themselves.
 
Clawn said:
No, and by the way, strongvoicesforward, this thread is about the good things associated with Christianity (in case you didn't read that correctly).
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You mean, it is an "intolerant" thread?

The thread title has an assertion in it. Are you saying that those who disagree with that assertion are not permitted to take issue with that?

If the thread was titled, "The thread for talking about only the good things of Christianity," then I would probably cede to your point, Clawn.

However, the thread title as it is now, is putting forth an assertion on an internet site that is an open forum for discussion.
 
strongvoicesforward said:
You mean, it is an "intolerant" thread?
The thread title has an assertion in it. Are you saying that those who disagree with that assertion are not permitted to take issue with that?
If the thread was titled, "The thread for talking about only the good things of Christianity," then I would probably cede to your point, Clawn.
However, the thread title as it is now, is putting forth an assertion on an internet site that is an open forum for discussion.
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The thread title matters less than the actual question posed by the thread starter, in my opinion. strongvoicesforward, I do not mean it is an "intolerant" thread, as you have labeled it, but simply that you posted something completely irrelevant to sabro's original reason for starting this thread. sabro clearly stated that all he wished for was a place for he and others to speak positively about Christianity. If you want to discuss the negative points of Christianity (which I am quite sure you do) you can make yet another thread that has the sole purpose of bashing Christianity and its beliefs.
 
sabro said:
Christians are involved in some of the most charitable and honorable works on the planet and are as a group taught the virtues of tolerance, love, and forgiveness.
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Can you really make such a huge generalization about a group with over a billion adherents, Sabro? Have you visited every church to know that they all teach tolerance, love, and forgiveness? I can come up with many examples that would not fit with your generalization, actually, I think most of them don't. As you said in another thread: " Prejudice and stereotyping is just plain...lazy-- I can't think of another word. It is an intellectually lazy short cut, thinking that you can know something about an individual based upon what you think of an entire group.". And as far as "love and tolerance" goes, are you willing to extend this generalization about christianity so as to include the Old Testament too?
Btw, sorry for going off-topic. I think you guys already covered everything with the first 3 posts.
 
And communism is a political ideal of equality and everyone benefitting from all being shared equally.


But the reality of it is that communism was corrupted towards evil, and christianity is the same.

Thats not to say the founding ideals at its heart a honest and well meaning, but its having to deal with human nature,christianity isnt alone in being corrupted for other evil things.
 
just statistic,
do you know any other religions that does not share the same values of christianity?
i don't beileve in any, but just i wanted to add my opinion.
 
One of my favorite charities is World Vision- my family and I currently sponsor two children in Thailand. It was an amazing lesson last year when we had a real connection to the people affected by the Tsunami.

I'm certain that many other, if not most religions share a common set of values. I am also certain that Christian values have not been practiced and are not practiced by all of the billion adherents to the faith. But not all Christians are witch burners, and not all Muslims are suicide bombers. I was just asking about positive associations. I could ask the same questions about Islam or athiests...but that would be another thread.

If you guys can slam Christianity on the other threads that were created for that purpose, it would keep this one free and uncluttered.
 
Clawn said:
The thread title matters less than the actual question posed by the thread starter, in my opinion. strongvoicesforward, I do not mean it is an "intolerant" thread, as you have labeled it, but simply that you posted something completely irrelevant to sabro's original reason for starting this thread. sabro clearly stated that all he wished for was a place for he and others to speak positively about Christianity.
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Clawn, with that reasoning, then someone could create a thread like: Nazism is a belief of peace, tolerance, forgiveness, love, and redemption for aryan races and will eventually benefit all human kind -- except those who we view incompatible with us."

And then they could pose a few cute questions in their that guides the discussion toward saying only nice things about Nazism. Now, does that sound right to you? Are you still saying the assertion in the thread title makes no difference and people are not allowed to take issue with that and disagree with what the opening para is saying or trying to insinuate?

This is a forum for Christ`s sake! It is meant for discussion and not always agreeing and saying why is part of discussing.

I did not post something irrelevant. I took issue with the assertion in the title and countered that. Like I said, if someone makes a severely intolerant thread title such as "The thread for saying only good things about Christianity," then I would probably cede to it and respect it. But, a thread titles as such would be laughable. But, I wouldn`t put it past someone to make one. I wonder if I am a prophet... (???)

Let`s wait and see....
 
sabro said:
If you guys can slam Christianity on the other threads that were created for that purpose, it would keep this one free and uncluttered.
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We are not "slamming" Christianity. We are taking issue with it. There is a difference.

You put a very strong absolute assertion in the thread title. It is inviting disagreement on those points.
 
Why not start two threads. One to slam and attack me personnaly. And one to "take issue" and slam Christianity? It should be rather fun. snicker snicker....
 
i would say that all regilions of this world shares the same values, it is only matter of practising that, which is almost impossible.
even the most simple theoligical thought, which is (love one another), no one can practice that, why? because we are human being!
so beileve or not beileve is not the problem, religions are not the problems, is just us, some of you are trying harder than other.
 
sabro said:
I'm certain that many other, if not most religions share a common set of values. I am also certain that Christian values have not been practiced and are not practiced by all of the billion adherents to the faith.
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You missed my point, Sabro. I'm just saying that "Christian values" are not the same for every Christian; those values depends solely on how they interpret the bible, and are not necessarily about peace and tolerance.
And SVF, trying to compare Christianity with Nazism is rather ridiculous. The Christian god burns ALL Jews FOREVER, nazists in comparison don't hate Jews nearly as much, nor can they be so cruel.
 
sabro said:
Why not start two threads. One to slam and attack me personnaly. And one to "take issue" and slam Christianity? It should be rather fun. snicker snicker....
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No. Because we are not slamming. We are merely taking issue with Christianity and what you put forth.

Why is it Christians always feel they are personally being persecuted when someone questions what they are putting forth? Is that your ace in the hole for immunity to just say anything and expect no one to disagree strongly?
 
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