Debate Alexander the Great vs Julius Caesar: Who was the Greatest Commander in the Ancient World?

[Vallicanus]

Not really, most Balkan/South Slavs had already settled within Byzantine by this point. The Avars conquered the east Slavs, some Germanic tribes, Daco-Romans etc -

My point included the fact that the East Roman/Byzantine emperor Basil the Second, known as Bulgar-Slayer for obvious reasons, subjected all the South Slavs up to the Danube in the early 11th century.

In any case, thee Balkan Slavs were subjected to foreign rule for much of their Balkan history, Avars initially , Ninth Century Franks in some western parts like Carinthia and Slovenia, Venetians on the coast and the Kingdom of Hungary inland and then finally the Ottomans from the 15th to early 20th centuries.

 

[TetaEglantina]

My point included the fact that the East Roman/Byzantine emperor Basil the Second, known as Bulgar-Slayer for obvious reasons, subjected all the South Slavs up to the Danube in the early 11th century.

In any case, thee Balkan Slavs were subjected to foreign rule for much of their Balkan history, Avars initially , Ninth Century Franks in some western parts like Carinthia and Slovenia, Venetians on the coast and the Kingdom of Hungary inland and then finally the Ottomans from the 15th to early 20th centuries.

Avars never made it to the Balkans, like I said they conquered germanics and east slavs

Maybe this is an avar line but looks too recent, what do you think? -

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More avar possibilities here -

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[rishav]

The two greco Persian wars having failed speaks nothing of the technological superioty of greeks over persians. If that was the case Persians shouldn't have won the Ionian revolt,war of the delian League, and even the two greco Persian wars showed that the persians could operate with the logistics that greeks at that time couldn't.
Infact the persians overtook much of the greek world burning athens.

During Agelisius invasion Spartans were defeated by a comparatively smaller force. Greeks were defeated at cunaxa.

I mean stronger power could still lose given logistical issues,theater of war, terrain etc. i mean just take a look at zyprion Macedonian invasion of scythia or Anthony's invasion of parthia. Were Macedonian and romans inferior to Scythians and parthians respectively?

Late Achamenid even had proto cataphracts, scythed chariots, kardakes described as being similar to greek hoplites, and mercenaries with string navy .

Alexander fought greeks, balkan tribes of thracians, illyrians,gatea tribe, persians, tyrians, scythians, Indians.

Achamenid empire was stronger than many ppl give it credit for. It forced Alexander to fight on three fronts in the very beginning of his campaign i.e Asia minor, agean and greece.
He fought capable generals like memnon, pharnabazus, darius, agis,ariobazanes, bessus, satibazanese, spitamenese.

He later fought a multi front war against steep nomads in bactria, sogdiana margiana and scythian frontier

 

[rishav]

The two greco Persian wars having failed speaks nothing of the technological superioty of greeks over persians. If that was the case Persians shouldn't have won the Ionian revolt,war of the delian League, and even the two greco Persian wars showed that the persians could operate with the logistics that greeks at that time couldn't.

Infact the persians overtook much of the greek world burning athens.



During Agelisius invasion Spartans were defeated by a comparatively smaller force. Greeks were defeated at cunaxa.



I mean stronger power could still lose given logistical issues,theater of war, terrain etc. i mean just take a look at zyprion Macedonian invasion of scythia or Anthony's invasion of parthia. Were Macedonian and romans inferior to Scythians and parthians respectively?



Late Achamenid even had proto cataphracts, scythed chariots, kardakes described as being similar to greek hoplites, and mercenaries with string navy .



Alexander fought greeks, balkan tribes of thracians, illyrians,gatea tribe, persians, tyrians, scythians, Indians.



Achamenid empire was stronger than many ppl give it credit for. It forced Alexander to fight on three fronts in the very beginning of his campaign i.e Asia minor, agean and greece.

He fought capable generals like memnon, pharnabazus, darius, agis,ariobazanes, bessus, satibazanese, spitamenese.



He later fought a multi front war against steep nomads in bactria, sogdiana margiana and scythian frontier