Nothing I said is misleading or disproven by what you said.
Q in Scandinavians have nothing to do with the Huns? Correct, that's what I said. But I added, that many Eastern Europeans who have haplo Q has literally nothing to do with Germanics.
Tatars and Bashkirs (who are assimilated locals...
Scandinavia has some Q due to ancient mixture of Steppe Ancestry (probably WSH) which was already mixed with East Asians, and thus they carried it over. But Q was not spread by Germanics nor Scandinavians.
Many haplogroup Q Europeans outside of Scandinavia are either more recent Steppe Ancestry...
Update:
The 23&me update came. Me, my mother and her brother got traces of Albanian/Macedonian. Their aunt (my great-aunt, the oldest relative I mentioned) did not tho. I still suspect that it's from that side tho.
She also lost her Polish Genetic Group and County Matches.
I started to...
There is a Hungarian family around the Apuseni Mountains, which has the y-haplogroup R1b-PF7563. This looks like a quite specific branch, that mostly concentrates in the Southern Balkans. I'd like to know more about what kind of group would this indicate.
The oldest relative with this surname...
FTDNA with BigY is really costy, but it is the most precise and deep dived Y-haplogroup-wise.
After that comes 23&me, which gives a fairly deep subclade.
After that you have the option to just get AncestryDNA and use cladefinder.yseq.net. It's often more vauge, but gives real data.
And then...
Hungarian House of Árpád: R1a-Z93 > R1a-SUR51 > R-ARP
Hungarian House of Aba: N-P189.2 > N-A9416
Hungarian House of Hunyadi/Corvin: E-V13 > E-BY4281
Hungarian House of Báthory: R-L51 > R-S498
!Excluding Hidden ones!
My father (Hungarian, paternal line came from Transylvania, next to Seklerland's exclave, Câmpia Turzii, on 23&me has 8% Italian, mt-dna U3b2):
Late Bronze Age:
- 1. Proto-Illyrian Bronze Age Croatia Bezdanjaca Cave
1150 BC - Genetic Distance: 4.082
- 5. Proto-Illyrian...
I'm J1c, I think it reflects a native Carpathian Basin ancestry from my mother's side. On 23&me, she has Apuseni Mountains as a Genetic Group, which lists J1c as common there.
My father is U3b2, no known Romani or Jewish ancestry, but he has 0.5% "Iranian, Caucasian and Mesopotamian" (ICM) on 23&me. Any guess for the origin for a Hungarian?
Building a database, here is the current summary ('összesen' means 'sum'/'all'):
~10% seems to be steppe related (excluding Slavic, Germanic and E-V13 ones, which can also come from there tbh).
~8% is R-CTS1211 or its subclades. ~7% is I-L621 or its subclades.
Close to 35% is unidentifiable...
(Your haplogroup seemingly indicates a Germanic origin from the Alpes.)
Great reading, glad to see some Romanians leaning towards the Migration or Admigration theory. It's not like Hungarians would gain anything from claiming or proving Romanians were not ethnically native there, as Romania is...
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