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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    There is a significant coupling for I1 between Italy and Central Europe around Roman-times. A part of these clades seems to have been imported during the Roman-era. While indeed, some other got imported later with the Longobards (but the I1 signal of this migration is "weak", most likely the...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    I had a quick look at their phylogenic tree (involving older samples) in the suplementary materials ... and the fine structure of their tree is ... "let stay polite" ... weird in many aspects. I wouldn't consider too much what is claimed about uniparental stuff in such paper. Many teams are...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    After checking their phylogeny ... some older samples are clearly placed in weird positions, when having no resolution they assume that the samples are basal. Considering they place ORC samples upstream of theirs ... the samples are at least Z585+ They also place them upstream of I18748, thus...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    You should have read Bruzmi more carefully (among few others ... I just quote the most "representative" one). He claimed many times that J-L283 among Hallstatt culture was impossible (like "totally impossible"). But, I will accord that to you, maybe you didn't read the messages of this user in...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Depends what you are calling "Illyrians" ? Depends when you want to place this mechanism ? Depends from where you want to place the starting point ? The phylogeny place significant constraints on the feasible mechanisms. To me, the one you propose have one big issue, it will fail to displace...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Apparently, there is a J-Z597 (Z1297-) from this upcoming paper : Evidence for dynastic succession among early Celtic elites https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB73566 Sample : MBG006 The concerned site is likely Magdalenenberg (South-Western Germany) during Hallstatt-period (EIA)...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Still believing in this outdated idea ? From the data, to me the most likely is that Z631 find its root in cremating population of Eastern Alps. Keep in mind that there is basically no sampling of the northern edge of the J-L283 area. While you use some Z638 as proxy (from ancient DNA with a...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Apparently they all come from a single site (Rákóczifalva). The abstract claim that they have a 9-generations tree in their study. Most likely a lot of these J-Z631 are probing the same lineage across many generations. I would be surprised if they display a significant diersity at J-Z631 level.
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    To burn or not to burn: LBA/EIA Balkan case

    Nope, founder-effect didn't work like that. I2 started to significantly expand by ~4000 BCE, it is totally unrelated with a paleolithic imaginary "war". I2 real success comes from its participation to WSH-population expansions. But pre-4000 BCE the diversification rates for C and I is consistent...
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    To burn or not to burn: LBA/EIA Balkan case

    You are dodging many thing ... not a very good indication :( . If you like to count by hand ... : https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/C-V20/tree https://www.yfull.com/tree/I2/ https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/I2/tree Personnally, I use automated tools ... and I don't see the...
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    To burn or not to burn: LBA/EIA Balkan case

    By 10 kyr bp ... 37 surviving branches of I2 and 7 surviving branches of C-V20 ... such 80/20% repartition if we assume equal probability of survivance post ~10kyr bp. I won't call that nearly wiped out. What I'm trying to explain to you is that blue-eyes SNP are not on the Y-chr ... it is just...
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    To burn or not to burn: LBA/EIA Balkan case

    C peoples have been wiped out of Europe ? Great news some modern paternal descedents will be happy to learn that : https://www.yfull.com/tree/C-Y11591/ I-M170 responsible for blue eyes ??? ... I know many women with blue eyes ... I take the bet that they are not I-haplogroup ;) . All you speak...
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    To burn or not to burn: LBA/EIA Balkan case

    Do you have any paper really demonstrating that ? I mean by identifying the involved SNPs. Papers I saw with a quick search didn't used a methodology able to separate SNP on Y-chr (related to I-haplogroup) or any autosomal SNPs partially spatially correlated with I-haplgroup (either due to...
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    To burn or not to burn: LBA/EIA Balkan case

    Did you have any scientific paper able to prove that some specific I-related SNPs are connected to height ? I mean real studies done at the SNP-level and controlling that the correlation is not induced by other shared traits. To clarify the reasons behind my request : An observed correlation...
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    To burn or not to burn: LBA/EIA Balkan case

    Any paper to support this "strange" claim ? I think you are confusing spatial "correlation" between traits (here haplogroups and phenotype) with a causal relation. Such correlation emerge from human population limited mobility, but didn't imply the real existence of a causal relation. I think...
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    Stable population structure in Europe since the Iron Age, despite high mobility

    Showing your true colors ? But as you ask, yes, it is really my "disinterested quest for reality" speaking here. Can you claim the same ? Do you know how I recognise pseudo-scientists ? They always want to speak about me instead of speaking of the data ... But that's something we have in common...
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    Stable population structure in Europe since the Iron Age, despite high mobility

    I answeared twice, LIKELY most modern European have at least 1 ancestor from North Africa when looking in the last 3000 years. You've not isolated enough populations in Europe to dodge that. Main argument : The large number of Y-DNA injection during IA and Roman times, all across Europe...
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    Stable population structure in Europe since the Iron Age, despite high mobility

    Wow, it escaladed quickly ... I know many people have biases, I just don't care about other people biases and I don't try to enter the mind of other peoples to imaginate why they are doing what they are doing. I just try (as much as possible) to have the more objective approach. Thus, biased...
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    Stable population structure in Europe since the Iron Age, despite high mobility

    Nice one, I clearly see from where is coming the statistical signal I see in my probe :) .
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    Stable population structure in Europe since the Iron Age, despite high mobility

    I don't think "politics" or "ideology" when I think of science. Why are they emphasing some stuff ? Is it some ideological motivations ? I let that up to them ... Unless the claim is false, I don't see the point of contesting the claim. I don't think anyone pretended that a population can be...
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