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"… Ay, and you know this also, that the wrongs which the Greeks suffered from the Lacedaemonians or from us, they suffered at all events at the hands of true-born sons of Greece, and they might have been regarded as the acts of a legitimate son, born to great possessions, who should be guilty of...

In no certain order Croatia, Hungary, Czech Republic, Poland, Denmark, Italy, Slovenia, Switzerland but all, and many more, amazing in their own way.

And, Omino, you are a South Macedonian with typical insecurity issues void of any reality. So this is a group think platform where only your opinions are allowed, I did not know. I suggest you change your name to ostrich and keep your head buried in the sand.

DNA does not prove cultural identity and assimilation. If your DNA proves that your forefathers 2000 years ago were Aboriginal Australians, would you now identify as an Aborigine rather than a Greek? I find it ironic you said "...language that was more familiar or emotional for them." You...

Uhhh, ProtosP, Macedonia was never a city state. In fact, it's the accepted positions by an overwhelming majority of historians.

"Refute my post." A first grader can refute your silly posts. I would venture to say that the vast majority of Sicilians don't refer to themselves as Italians. My positions are substantiated by historians and I've quoted them accurately, so why would you consider that trolling? Your inability...

I find it astonishing that you have to go to the cellular/genetic level to try to prove a fallacy that Macedonians are Greek. None of the "big picture" items align with your hypothetical, not language, not culture, not being a city-state, having a polygamous king, the way males are socialized in...

Omino, its crazy how little you read on this board. It's not me that is saying it: Greece became part of the Macedonian Empire after losing the Battle of Chaeronea, one of the most renowned of all battles. The Macedonian victory at Chaeronea would put Greece into what historian G. Maclean...

Yes, indeed, Pella curse tablets say hi to you and yours as well. What's delusional is regardless of the historical facts presented to you by historians, you still try to convince yourselves that Macedonians were Greek. They aren't. You lost, the Macedonians won. Their history... their...

And I can just as easily post historians who say Macedonians are not Greek.

So much delusion... Greeks. LOLOLOL You guys are living in fantasy world. During the reign of Alexander the Great, the Macedonians spoke their own native language, as the native language language of Alexander the Great was not understood by the ancient Greeks (Quintus Curtius Rufus, VI, 9, 37...

You're right... in fact, man was created by Greeks and Greeks created the heavens and earth.

Yes, Greeks don't want to admit they lost the defining battle and their identity to Macedonians.

There is no doubt that Macedonians were not Greek. With all due respect, Hawk, I prefer to listen to historians.

Thank you. We are arguing semantics yet saying the same thing. As I wrote above, Dianatomia said "There was no Greece, as in Greek nation state. There certainly was though, a concept of "Greece" referred to as Hellas" and I agreed with him. Whether we refer to it as Hellas or Greece, it really...

No one said Hellas did not exist, "Greece" did not exist. Dianatomia said as much stating, "There was no Greece, as in Greek nation state. There certainly was though, a concept of "Greece" referred to as Hellas" and I agreed with him. Even today, the official country name in the UN is The...

What facts am I misrepresenting? I'm not misrepresenting any facts at all. I've stated multiple times that "Greece" did not exist at the time of Philip and Alexander. Athens existed, Thebes existed, Sparta existed and various other city states. Macedonia was not part of these city states and...

I agree, and I stated this in an earlier post, that there was no "Greece." It was the Romans that started referring to the territory as "Greece" (Graeci), and it wasn't until Late Antiquity (c. 3rd - 7th centuries) that Hellenes referred to themselves as "Greek." Persians called them "Yaunas,"...

Yes, I can see you are an omen... of complete irrelevance.

Not a troll in the least. I'm simply requesting proof of how the study I referred to was debunked. And you and the other two tortoises simply saying "it’s been debunked" is not enough. Show proof. Simple request.