why turks have most higher r1a?

[AlfonsoVIII]

It is clear that the Turkic peoples absorbed Indo-European populations from the steppe, such as Scythians.

 

[hayybinyakzan]

As a Turk, this week my familytreedna y-dna test result was R1a-M198. According to what I read somewhere, the Ottoman dynasty was also R1a-Z93.

 

[bigsnake49]

I don't know if it has been mentioned before in this thread but a lot of Slavs that became muslims during the Ottoman Empire's occupation of the Balkans have R1a Y-DNA. Plus of course all the R1a subclades from the Central Asia area.

 

[norbert]

From what I have seen online, R1a is not a particularly prominent haplogroup among Turks. Only 7% so far and I assume that most of it falls under the Z93 subclade which the Turks picked up from the Iranian Scythians, directly or through assimilation of other groups who picked it up before. I would not overestimate the presence of Slavic subclades but there were some minor migrations from the Balkans to Turkey during and after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

The Turks are one of the most genetically diverse nations in West Eurasia. Proto-Turkic haplogroups were most likely clades of C2 and O3. They would have mixed with West Eurasians very early on in central Asia. There's very little left of that original Turkic heritage.

 

[hayybinyakzan]

I don't know if it has been mentioned before in this thread but a lot of Slavs that became muslims during the Ottoman Empire's occupation of the Balkans have R1a Y-DNA. Plus of course all the R1a subclades from the Central Asia area.

Very funny, yes there are 3-5 people in Turkiye with R1a-Z282-Z283-Z280.

Do not confuse Slavic subclades with Turkic subclades. Turkic R1a is R1a-Z93.

From what I have seen online, R1a is not a particularly prominent haplogroup among Turks. Only 7% so far and I assume that most of it falls under the Z93 subclade which the Turks picked up from the Iranian Scythians, directly or through assimilation of other groups who picked it up before. I would not overestimate the presence of Slavic subclades but there were some minor migrations from the Balkans to Turkey during and after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

The Turks are one of the most genetically diverse nations in West Eurasia. Proto-Turkic haplogroups were most likely clades of C2 and O3. They would have mixed with West Eurasians very early on in central Asia. There's very little left of that original Turkic heritage.

Isn't R1a evident in Turks? Do you know about the Turkic republics and Turks?

If there are R1a-Z93 in Iran, they are not Iranians. You can be sure they are Turks. Turks ruled there for hundreds of years. Same in the Balkans, India, Afghanistan, Middle East and North Africa.

 

[norbert]

Very funny, yes there are 3-5 people in Turkiye with R1a-Z282-Z283-Z280.

Do not confuse Slavic subclades with Turkic subclades. Turkic R1a is R1a-Z93.


Isn't R1a evident in Turks? Do you know about the Turkic republics and Turks?

If there are R1a-Z93 in Iran, they are not Iranians. You can be sure they are Turks. Turks ruled there for hundreds of years. Same in the Balkans, India, Afghanistan, Middle East and North Africa.

All R1a-Z93 among the Turks and other Turkic-speaking ethnicities in Central Asia comes from the Scythians and groups related to them. This is where the Scythians "disappeared": they were absorbed by Turkic invaders. R1a-Z93 is undoubtedly Indo-Iranian. This mixing of Turks and Eastern Iranians is not only the result of Turkic expansions but previous Iranian incursions into East Asia which is why the Turks were a West/East Eurasian mix from the earliest history. The equestrian nomad culture is most likely a Scythian influence on those Turkic groups.

 

[hayybinyakzan]

All R1a-Z93 among the Turks and other Turkic-speaking ethnicities in Central Asia comes from the Scythians and groups related to them. This is where the Scythians "disappeared": they were absorbed by Turkic invaders. R1a-Z93 is undoubtedly Indo-Iranian. This mixing of Turks and Eastern Iranians is not only the result of Turkic expansions but previous Iranian incursions into East Asia which is why the Turks were a West/East Eurasian mix from the earliest history. The equestrian nomad culture is most likely a Scythian influence on those Turkic groups.

Funny, sculptures, objects, drawings, etc. relatedivilizations founded in Iran show that they had nothing to do with Scythians. First compare Scythian clothes, types, phenotypes with Iranian civilizations.

Indo-Iranian? Shall I tell you a secret? R1b and R1a also originated from central and northern Asia and Siberia

The Indian R1a came to India from Central Asia, but it is 5000 years old. This R1a type has nothing to do with the so-called "Aryan migration". The other Z93 markers are clearly Turkic, and looking at the Z93 base map, it turns out to be a purely Turkic haplogroup spread across South Asia.

Don't come with the eupedia fake map of Z93.

 

[MOESAN]

Funny, sculptures, objects, drawings, etc. relatedivilizations founded in Iran show that they had nothing to do with Scythians. First compare Scythian clothes, types, phenotypes with Iranian civilizations.

Indo-Iranian? Shall I tell you a secret? R1b and R1a also originated from central and northern Asia and Siberia

The Indian R1a came to India from Central Asia, but it is 5000 years old. This R1a type has nothing to do with the so-called "Aryan migration". The other Z93 markers are clearly Turkic, and looking at the Z93 base map, it turns out to be a purely Turkic haplogroup spread across South Asia.

Don't come with the eupedia fake map of Z93.

Maciamo updates his works and use as a whole more than a study to make them. It's enough to look at his maps compared to the maps of some scientists (with these last ones using 'isoglosses mistaking because they encompasse unstudied regions among their 'isoglosses' by generalisation) - Underhill 's survey is old.
Now what would be interesting is knowing where were found the oldest Z93 isn't it?