LeBrok
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I knew it. You are angry at US for forcing Serbia into defeated position. And in your mind "destroying" Yugoslavia.1. No, this has nothing to do with the issues I have with US government. Things get much more complex if we isolate just Serbia an US, so I wouldn't get into that on this thread. This is the policy that US and like-minded are conducting all over the world.
So, what should I say to them? Thank you for starting a war here, making properties value go down, buying them at low prices, and now owning half of my country (with 5 or 6 neighboring that emerged from the process)? No, I don't consider that a civilization. That is what I'm dissatisfied with!
I thought we were talking about US and Natives within its borders, and not the whole America. The most populated was central america with Mexico, because they were agriculturalists. Go to Mexico and you will see that majority of them look pure native and there is 100 million of them. Therefore your "close to extinct" is not even close.As for number of Indians in America current consensus is about 50 millions in 1492, with minimal estimate at 10 millions. That's why I used the terminology I did.
Maybe here:2. I'm pretty much satisfied with the way I live, don't know where you got the wrong impression.
Seams like you're contradicting yourself.Maybe it works for you, but not here. Only thing we got from that in whole Yugoslavia is bunch of criminals that are using guns, power, force, extortion and bribery, to raise themselves up according to those new standards of success. In fact, I will go that far to say that communism worked better for us, because there was a limitation on a private property for a person
Give me one example how US is forcing you personally to live the way they want. It looks to me that you are angry at others (Serbs?) that are following western culture.I'm dissatisfied when someone else is trying to inflict on me how I should live. U.S. have a very strong opinion that only they know what is right and that everyone should be living the way they do, because - It is the right way.
The beauty of Western civilization is that it brings freedom of choice to all people. You can chose to live any way you like, or you can live wherever you want. You don't like new technology, don't buy it, don't go to hospital, don't drive your car, throw away your computer. Nobody is forcing your hand to have it.3. In Sheldonian words, this is "the logical fallacy of extending someone's argument to ridiculous proportions and then criticizing the result." I would do the same if I told you to superglue yourself to your chair, in front of your laptop, and never come out into the sun light. That's just not a proactive conversation.
When you say 'civilization', do you really mean 'western civilization'? You have to understand that there are people in the world that have different priorities and approach to life. I don't neglect all the achievement of your civilization, but I neglect the need to embrace them all at once and forget everything I was ever taught which has worked here for thousands of years.
Let me remind you something. If you lived in communist country you wouldn't have computer and internet to share your views on Eupedia. Unless, it is again US forcing you to do so...
So what changed? Previously you had Red Barons owing Yugoslavia and doing whatever they wanted. And don't use word "us", I'm sure most people don't share your views. Seams like you would sacrifice your people, their freedoms and choices for a dream of Great Yugoslavia again. How imperialistic, despotic and communistic.In my opinion western civilization is nowdays obsessed with money and is weighing everything through the prism of economic gain. Maybe it works for you, but not here. Only thing we got from that in whole Yugoslavia is bunch of criminals that are using guns, power, force, extortion and bribery, to raise themselves up according to those new standards of success. In fact, I will go that far to say that communism worked better for us, because there was a limitation on a private property for a person, so they could not appropriate an estate that easy. Now we have ended up with local landlords owing half of the country, and facts are coming out that they are not even the real owners, but they were bying on behalf of a secret foreign investors.