Map of R1a for ethnic Serbs in Serbia and Republic of Srpska
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hrvat22
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http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/22Kangars/BesenyoGeneticsEn.htm
Bosnian Serbs have 13.6% R1a so this map is incorrect.
If you have scientific paper on which you base your map, you can freely attach it.
Bosnian Serbs have 13.6% R1a so this map is incorrect.
If you have scientific paper on which you base your map, you can freely attach it.
You are funny guy if you believe that Serbs from Bosnia have less R1a than Serbs from Serbia.
You research is not relevant because sample was small and and sample was from only few villages not from whole Bosnia where Serbs live.
You research is outdate, year 2005 was 12 years ago, a lot of Serbs was tested in period of 12 years.
Serbs from B&H have twice more R1a than Croats from B&H, deal wit it.
hrvat22
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You are funny guy if you believe that Serbs from Bosnia have less R1a than Serbs from Serbia.
You research is not relevant because sample was small and and sample was from only few villages not from whole Bosnia where Serbs live.
You research is outdate, year 2005 was 12 years ago, a lot of Serbs was tested in period of 12 years.
Serbs from B&H have twice more R1a than Croats from B&H, deal wit it.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1529-8817.2005.00190.x/full
Samples for the Serbs were taken from all over Bosnia and Herzegovina(where Serbs live in majority), the scientific work was done with rules prescribed by the profession and published in scientific journals.
Your data is from private portal without any scientific reference which is not proof of anything, except that in some areas exist these or those haplotypes.
Therefore my clame
is correct and deal wit it.
hrvat22
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Serbs from B&H have twice more R1a than Croats from B&H, deal wit it.
As far as I know in Croatian area Serbs have R1a types that have Croats there, which means that these Serbs are probably Croatian origin.
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In a recent paper, there was 10% of R1a in Udine , Friuli, North East Italy in the time of pre-Roman Italy circa 700BC ...........Udine at that time was a mix of Venetic and Histri Illyrians.
so , understand that R1a was in the alps and most likely further west long before any slavs arrived
hrvat22
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We in Croatia have history of Serbs for about 400 years, if R1a mutations in today's Croatian Serbs are older than these 400 years everything is clear, there are Croat origin by male line and do not come to Croatia from south east Balkans.
Which Croatian R1a types are originally Croatian or Italian we'll see in the future.
Which types of R1a?
Among Serbs from Lika it is more dominant M458 than Z280 (M458 is around 2/3, and Z280 is around 1/3).
Serbs from Kordun, Banija and Bosanska Krajina have more Z280 than M458.
Serbs from krajina which are R1a or any other haplogroup are not of Croatian origin, deal with it.
hrvat22
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This is not proof of anything, show me the latest scientific paper for Bosnian Serbs.
Bosnian Serbs have 13.6% R1a.
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From where Serbs bring R1a Z280, and which specifically branches and subcladest they bring to Croatia?
R1a Z280 is old around 4500 years.
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Please substantiate all claims with links to academic sources. It is the only way we can verify if they are correct; thus avoiding these kind of disputes.
hrvat22
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Wrong, your source is old 7-8 years and it's based at the sample of around 50.
Here are results of 430 tested Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina [video]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CkH42U0Po_3trplZuaoFf2IUTDYQtZrt4_KDW2ZNnOs/edit#gid=1803888126[/video]
At the sample of 430 Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina have 103 R1a which is 24%, but Bosnian Serbs without Herzegovinian Serbs have 25,1% R1a.
Deal with it!
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At the sample of 213 (at the day March 3 2017) R1a was 33,33% (71 samples) among Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina, but at the sample of 430 R1a is 24% among Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina (25,1% among Serbs from Bosnia).
User hrvat22 use source which is old 7-8 years and when sample was much smaller than today.
I demand from moderators to protect me from user hrvat22, because he obvious tr.lling (source which is old 7-8 years is not relevant today because sample was much smaller).
User hrvat22 use source which is old 7-8 years and when sample was much smaller than today.
I demand from moderators to protect me from user hrvat22, because he obvious tr.lling (source which is old 7-8 years is not relevant today because sample was much smaller).
hrvat22
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At the sample of 213 (at the day March 3 2017) R1a was 33,33% (71 samples) among Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina, but at the sample of 430 R1a is 24% among Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina (25,1% among Serbs from Bosnia).
User hrvat22 use source which is old 7-8 years and when sample was much smaller than today.
I demand from moderators to protect me from user hrvat22, because he obvious tr.lling (source which is old 7-8 years is not relevant today because sample was much smaller).
Obviously you have no proof (links to academic source) and that's why you manipulate with data from private portals.
Your data was not done with rules prescribed by the profession and published in scientific journals and therefore can not and should not serve as relevant evidence.
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@Bachus, providing a graphic or spreadsheet with no link to where it comes from is not sufficient. You will have to follow up with a link to the source of it's origin.
I will ask everyone in the thread to please show one another respect. Saying stuff like "deal with it" only serves to antagonize.
This is what eupedia has to say about R1a distribution:
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml
I will ask everyone in the thread to please show one another respect. Saying stuff like "deal with it" only serves to antagonize.
This is what eupedia has to say about R1a distribution:
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml
hrvat22
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@Bachus, providing a graphic or spreadsheet with no link to where it comes from is not sufficient. You will have to follow up with a link to the source of it's origin.
I will ask everyone in the thread to please show one another respect. Saying stuff like "deal with it" only serves to antagonize.
This is what eupedia has to say about R1a distribution:
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml
There is no link, only data which he has is from Serbian private portal. Research for Bosnian Serbs is what I quoting and that's only research we have for now.
Therefore his evidence is not relevant.
I'm afraid that I did not understand your question.
Do you sugest that Serbs from Croatia and Bosnia which are R1a-Z280 are of Croatian origin?