I would like to announce that I have just published a Genetic history of the Iberian Peninsula. It may still need a few corrections, but otherwise I think it is reasonably comprehensive.
Your feedback is welcome.
Your feedback is welcome.
I would like to announce that I have just published a Genetic history of the Iberian Peninsula. It may still need a few corrections, but otherwise I think it is reasonably comprehensive.
Your feedback is welcome.
I would like to announce that I have just published a Genetic history of the Iberian Peninsula. It may still need a few corrections, but otherwise I think it is reasonably comprehensive.
Your feedback is welcome.
It's probably too speculative yet, but regarding Iberia, there is in K15 the 'Atlantic' component, which peaks in French-Basque and second highest in Spaniards. It is also very high in the presumably celtic Iron Age sample.
By analyzing K15 it looks like 'Atlantic' is a combination of at least two major ancestries, one is more related to North-Europeans (Loschbour, La Brana, NW-Europe possess 'Atlantic') and the other is related to South-Europeans ('Atlantic' is modal in Iberians/Basques, but also strong in EEF-Stuttgart (25%), Sicilians (15%) and even Cypriots and sephardic Jews (7%)). Since Sicilians, Cypriots and Jews are the least WHG-North-European Hunter-Gatherer related peoples of today in Europe, it is almost certain that 'Atlantic' is partially composed of South-european ancestry, which could be either a mesolthic population from Italy and/or Balkans, which made it together with the farmers to Iberia. Another possibility is that these were Near-eastern/Anatolian hunter-gatherers who mixed with european hunter-gatherers across the mesolithic mediterranean.
MtDNA H1+H3 coincides well with 'Atlantic' autosomal component.
'North-Sea' and 'East-Euro' seem more strange and artificial. North-Sea seems to be closer related to 'East-Euro' than neighbouring 'Baltic', which is strange but interesting. FST distances would be nice to have.
West-Asian looks less ANE related in K15, which might be just due to an overfitting effect - my guess. But this is off-topic.
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According to the spreadsheet Ashkenazi Jews are supposed to get 10% Atlantic, I'm a full Ashkenazi but I get 20%, here are my results:
Admix Results (sorted):
Population East_Med
[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]26.20[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]19.52[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]16.32[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.60[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]North_Sea[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.44[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Red_Sea[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.79[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Baltic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.00[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Eastern_Euro[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.99[/TD]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Northeast_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.24[/TD]
Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.435981
2 West_Sicilian @ 7.124914
3 East_Sicilian @ 7.686503
4 South_Italian @ 8.222302
5 Central_Greek @ 8.253244
6 Ashkenazi @ 10.587203
7 Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.051206
8 Italian_Jewish @ 11.907031
9 Tuscan @ 11.965949
10 Greek @ 12.039761
11 Algerian_Jewish @ 13.711204
12 Greek_Thessaly @ 14.624115
13 Tunisian_Jewish @ 15.955420
14 North_Italian @ 19.058891
15 Bulgarian @ 19.539663
16 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.904432
17 Cyprian @ 20.181499
18 Turkish @ 20.992123
19 Romanian @ 21.754431
20 Lebanese_Muslim @ 22.375401
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish_Jewish +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.772971
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Sephardic_Jewish +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Turkish @ 3.586322
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.923865
2 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.259549
3 French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Muslim + Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.276515
4 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.335139
5 Assyrian + French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.400810
6 Assyrian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Tuscan @ 2.500655
7 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Palestinian + Tuscan @ 2.508104
8 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + South_Italian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.597329
9 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.608863
10 French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Turkish @ 2.628187
11 Armenian + French_Basque + Palestinian + Tuscan @ 2.628273
12 Ashkenazi + French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.653903
13 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Muslim + Tuscan @ 2.660685
14 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Muslim + West_Sicilian @ 2.665869
15 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish + South_Italian @ 2.667009
16 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.668889
17 French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + Samaritan + Turkish @ 2.674453
18 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish + West_Sicilian @ 2.678019
19 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Jordanian + Tuscan @ 2.737997
20 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.774329
Have no idea what that means.
P.S according to Iosif (forgot his surname) Ashkenazi Jews, Sicilians and Maltese have the least WHG in Europe, and thus plot in the gap between Europe and the near east, Cypriots get a negative value of said component, and plot on the tip of the near east.
After looking at the spreadsheet again, I think I came up with an answer:Compared to sephardim, ashkenazi jews are known to have some north-euro admixture, which is visible in elevated 'North-Sea', 'Baltic' and 'Eastern-Euro'. All populations being high in any of these three compopnents also have significant 'Atlantic', because they share partial common north-euro-WHG-like ancestry. Your 'Atlantic' indeed looks strangely high at first glance. I don't know what it means. Try to do some meditation using the K15 table, perhaps you'll find an explanation which I don't see yet.
After looking at the spreadsheet again, I think I came up with an answer:
Average Ashkenazi- north sea: 10%
Me- north sea: 8%
Average Ashkenazi- Atlantic: 10%
Me-Atlantic: 20%
Average Ashkenazi- Baltic: 7%
Me- Baltic: 4%
Average Ashkenazi- east Euro: 5%
Me- east Euro- 2%
Average Ashkenazi- west Mediterranean: 15%
Me- west Mediterranean: 15%
...
For all I know, I'm a full Ashkenazi, with roots in modern day Germany, Poland and the Ukraine. But my biological father was fairer than my mother.You look most like a mixed Sephardim+Ashkenazi with some additional Basque ancestry, but not exactly. Your west-Mediterranean should be higher then. You have a quite unique admixture profile.
"In the 14th century, approximately 8% of the Spanish population was Jewish."
Source? I have seen legitimate historical sources (not Wikipedia) that say that Jews in Iberia were quite less than that. In fact, more like closer to 1%.
"The Inquisition killed or expelled a lot of Muslims, but, as was the case with the Jews, many converted to Christianity and remained in Spain and Portugal. As many as 275,000 of these Moriscos, as the converts were known, were expelled from Castille and Valencia in the early 17th century, but many more lingered in other regions, notably Aragon, Andalusia, Extremadura and Portugal. At one point, Moriscos accounted for 20% of the population of Aragon. It is probably not a coincidence that haplogroups E1b1b, J and T make up 20% of modern Aragonese male lineages, despite the fact that the region was never under Phoenician or Greek influence."
The problem with this theory is the well-known historical fact that most "Moriscos" were just descendants of native Iberians who had converted to Islam (known as "Muladies") and later on reconverted to Christianity, not foreign Arabs or Berbers. Also, one would have to take a closer look at what subclades of E1b1b and J are more common in Aragon to venture to guess any possible connection to the subject.
correct me if I am wrong:
- Aragon was never on the coast , but only became coastal when catalonia claim the title of kingdom of Aragon...........IIRC ~1100AD
- Aragon was never inhabited by Moors
- Moors are not arabs, but mostly berber people who are 90% E in marker except a small group who are R1a ( 4.9%) in altai mountains`
- According to Adams (2008 paper) ibiza was formed by phoenician settlers, Ibiza has 20% g2a, 17% T1, 15% J2 and the rest ..............other phoenician settlement show mostly J2 markers
- Catalonia had phoenician and greek settlement
http://www20.gencat.cat/portal/site...ntid=278c3c084ded7210VgnVCM1000008d0c1e0aRCRD
In terms of the general introduction, I don’t think the weight of the evidence supports the proposition that there is a lot of substructure autosomally in the modern populations of the Iberian peninsula, or at least not in Spain, perhaps in part, indeed, to the resettlement policies following the Reconquista.
Perhaps some came in the Mesolithic, although I’m sure you’re aware that E-M81 has been assigned a "young" TMRCA. That doesn't mean, of course, that some upstream clade of "E" was not present in the Iberian peninsula at that time.
That some of it came during the Neolithic seems perhaps more likely.
I don’t know what basis there is for saying that none of it came with the Moors. I have, at various times, attempted to find current, or even twenthieth century comprehensive histories of Spain and Portugal covering this period, and dealing with the Moorish invasions, that compile in one place whatever data is available, and I can't find it either in English or Spanish.
"In the 14th century, approximately 8% of the Spanish population was Jewish."
Source? I have seen legitimate historical sources (not Wikipedia) that say that Jews in Iberia were quite less than that. In fact, more like closer to 1%.
On the other hand, we find that France and the Italian and Iberian peninsulas have the lowest rates of genetic common ancestry in the last 1,500 years (other than Turkey and Cyprus), and are the regions of continental Europe thought to have been least affected by the Slavic and Hunnic migrations. These regions were, however, moved into by Germanic tribes (e.g., the Goths, Ostrogoths, and Vandals), which suggests that perhaps the Germanic migrations/invasions of these regions entailed a smaller degree of population replacement than the Slavic and/or Hunnic, or perhaps that the Germanic groups were less genealogically cohesive. This is consistent with the argument that the Slavs moved into relatively depopulated areas, while Gothic “migrations” may have been takeovers by small groups of extant populations [54],[55].