French ancient dna 3400-2500 BCE

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ate Neolithic and Bell Beaker Genomes from Present-Day France
Shttps://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(20)31835-2

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  • Sequencing of 24 human genomes from France dated to ∼3,400–1,600 cal. years BCE
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  • These genomes show heterogeneous hunter-gatherer and steppe-related ancestries
  • Paris Basin Neolithic and Mesolithic groups admixed as recently as ∼3,800 years BCE
  • Admixture with steppe herders in southern France dated as early as ∼2,650 years BCE
  
  Summary
  
  The transition from the Late Neolithic to the Bronze Age has witnessed important population and societal changes in western Europe.1
  These include massive genomic contributions of pastoralist herders originating from the Pontic-Caspian steppes2,3
  into local populations, resulting from complex interactions between collapsing hunter-gatherers and expanding farmers of Anatolian ancestry.4
  , 5, 6, 7, 8This transition is documented through extensive ancient genomic data from present-day Britain,9,10Ireland,11,12Iberia,13
  Mediterranean islands,14,15Germany.8
  It remains, however, largely overlooked in France, where most focus has been on the Middle Neolithic (n = 63),8,9,16with the exception of one Late Neolithic genome sequenced at 0.05× coverage.16
  
  
• This leaves the key transitional period covering ∼3,400–2,700 cal. years (calibrated years) BCE genetically unsampled and thus the exact time frame of hunter-gatherer persistence and arrival of steppe migrations unknown. To remediate this, we sequenced 24 ancient human genomes from France spanning ∼3,400–1,600 cal. years BCE. This reveals Late Neolithic populations that are genetically diverse and include individuals with dark skin, hair, and eyes. We detect heterogeneous hunter-gatherer ancestries within Late Neolithic communities, reaching up to ∼63.3% in some individuals, and variable genetic contributions of steppe herders in Bell Beaker populations. We provide an estimate as late as ∼3,800 years BCE for the admixture between Neolithic and Mesolithic populations and as early as ∼2,650 years BCE for the arrival of steppe-related ancestry. The genomic heterogeneity characterized underlines the complex history of human interactions even at the local scale.
  
  
  
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Heterogeneous Hunter-Gatherer and Steppe-Related Ancestries in Late Neolithic and Bell Beaker Genomes from Present-Day France

 

[kingdavid]

Nice
HgY
1H07 I2a1b1b1
1H13 I2a1b1b1
2H07 H2a1a
2H10 I2a1b1b1
2H11 I2a1a1b1
2H17 I2a1b1b1
2HxC5x196x1131 I2a1b1b1
GBVPK R1b1a1b1a1a2a1
ROUQCC I2a1b1b
ROUQFF I2a1a2
ROUQHH I2a1b1b1
ROUQW I2a1b1b1
TORTD I2a1b1b1



And
Mtdna
Sample Hg
1H04 K1a1b1g
1H06 U5a2b3
1H07 J1c5
1H13 K1a4a1
1H14 H
2H06 H2a2a1
2H07 K1a4a1h
2H10 H3
2H11 J1c1
2H17 U5b1i
2HxC5x196x1131 X2b
GBVPK J2b1a
GBVPL J1c1
GBVPO U5b3
MAS15 H4a1a+195
ROUQCC T2c1d+152
ROUQEE H1+152
ROUQFF V
ROUQHH U2e1c1
ROUQV H3
ROUQW X2c1
TORTC K1b1a
TORTD K1a2a
TORTE K1a2b
TORTF H6a1a


P.s
Angela i see u2e1 :cool-v:

 

[Angela]

I'm U2e2. It showed up in Corded Ware, multiple times in Bell Beaker, and one of the recent papers on the steppe showed it too.

There's no getting around it. I have steppe mtDna, and my father and most of the people in those mountains have steppe yDna (R1b-U52).

I have no idea about my maternal grandfather's y however. He looked like Julius Caesar without quite such a large nose and of course he was probably R1b as well, but who knows? I've always had a hunch he might have been G2a

I think this is the best reconstruction bkz it's based on the only two known contemporaneous busts, and on coins issued in Rome during his lifetime.

 

[Angela]

I'm U2e2. It showed up in Corded Ware, multiple times in Bell Beaker, and one of the recent papers on the steppe showed it too.

There's no getting around it. I have steppe mtDna, and my father and most of the people in those mountains have steppe yDna (R1b-U52).

I have no idea about my maternal grandfather's y however. He looked like Julius Caesar without quite such a large nose and of course he was probably R1b as well, but who knows? I've always had a hunch he might have been G2a

I think this is the best reconstruction bkz it's based on the only two known contemporaneous busts, and on coins issued in Rome during his lifetime.

The tanned and weathered skin of the reconstruction comes from a lifetime spent outdoors campaigning. He was described as tall, well built, fair skinned and black eyed.

In fact, I think I look a bit like a female version of him. Without hair, my skull would look exactly the same, too; it's huge. I even have those bumps on my forehead. My doting father used to tell me my head had to be huge and had bumps to hold all my brains in...of course, the big skull and the forehead came from him and he was, I'm sorry to say, both an arrogant and a vain man. There's nothing attractive about that kind of skull. Thank goodness I've always had so much hair on my head.

 

[Jovialis]

The accession number is PRJEB41240

I just searched for it on ENA, and nothing comes up. Hopefully, they will get that fixed soon, so we can look at the raw data.

 

[Carlos]

An artist in my country has made the complete series of Roman emperors based on the sculptures.

https://www.boredpanda.es/escultura...oogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic


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I never believed that something like this could happen.



ADNmt
Muestra Hg
1S04 K1a1b1g
1S06 U5a2b3
1S07 J1c5
1h13 K1a4a1
1H14 H
2M06 H2a2a1
2S07 K1a4a1h
2S10 H3
2S11 J1c1
2H17 U5b1i
2HxC5x196x1131 X2b
GBVPK J2b1a
GBVPL J1c1
GBVPO U5b3
MAS15 H4a1a + 195
ROUQCC T2c1d + 152
ROUQEE H1 + 152
ROUQFF V
ROUQHH U2e1c1
ROUQV H3
ROUQW X2c1
TORTC K1b1a
TORTD K1a2a
TORTE K1a2b
TORTF H6a1a

 

[bicicleur 2]

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HgY
1H07 I2a1b1b1
1H13 I2a1b1b1
2H07 H2a1a
2H10 I2a1b1b1
2H11 I2a1a1b1
2H17 I2a1b1b1
2HxC5x196x1131 I2a1b1b1
GBVPK R1b1a1b1a1a2a1
ROUQCC I2a1b1b
ROUQFF I2a1a2
ROUQHH I2a1b1b1
ROUQW I2a1b1b1
TORTD I2a1b1b1

isogg 2018 or 2020 ?

 

[kingdavid]

isogg 2018 or 2020 ?

Have no idea
The source by the way
Is russian forum molgen


p.s
here are the sites in france from were the ancient dna samples
were taken close to modern day reims and nimes in southwest france

https://i.imgur.com/6Mub2oo.png

 

[kingdavid]

neolithic france 4800-4500 bc ( Gurgy site)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06350-8

 

[Friesday]

It's an interesting study, there is also a prediction of pigmentation if you're interested