Famous J2 Individuals

American explorer James Felix "Jim" Bridger belonged haplogroup J2. Bridger was a western explorer in the first half of the 19th century and one of the first Europeans to see the Yellowstone area and the Great Salt Lake. He was descended from General Joseph Bridger (1631-1686), an early settler of Virginia originally from Gloucester, England. The Bridges DNA Project at FTDNA shows 2 descendants of Joseph in J-M172 Group 02.
 
Rusty said:
American explorer James Felix "Jim" Bridger belonged haplogroup J2. Bridger was a western explorer in the first half of the 19th century and one of the first Europeans to see the Yellowstone area and the Great Salt Lake. He was descended from General Joseph Bridger (1631-1686), an early settler of Virginia originally from Gloucester, England. The Bridges DNA Project at FTDNA shows 2 descendants of Joseph in J-M172 Group 02.
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Thank you for your post. I see these guys are more specifically J2b-L283>Y12007

I will open a new thread for "Notable J2b-L283 carriers" as it is misleading having a thread for "J2" carriers when this is a macrohaplogroup designation that doesn't entail any further information really. There is no need to lump together people with totally different origin backgrounds under it.

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11​
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32​
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11​
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12​
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22​
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14​
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9​
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10​
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26​
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15​
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18​
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11​
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22​
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14​
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11​
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14​
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24​
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12​
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21​
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18​
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9​
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14​
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17​
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9​
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11​
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11​
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[TD="class: td1"]111409[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Bridger[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]England[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]J-M172[/TD]
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12​
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24​
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15​
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10​
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11​
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15​
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12​
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12​
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11​
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27​
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17​
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8-9​
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11​
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11​
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26​
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16​
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19​
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31​
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13-15-15-18​
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11​
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10​
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[TD="class: td1"]21635[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Bridger[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]William Bridger, 1803 - 1864[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]England[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]J2b-L283>Y12007[/TD]
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12​
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24​
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15​
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10​
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13-17​
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11​
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12​
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11​
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27​
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17​
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8-9​
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11​
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11​
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26​
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16​
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19​
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31​
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13-15-15-18​
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12​
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10​
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19-20​
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14​
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14​
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17​
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17​
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36-39​
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11​
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9​
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11​
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8​
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15-17​
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11​
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10​
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8​
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11​
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12​
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21-23​
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16​
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11​
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12​
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12​
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17​
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12​
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17​
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10​
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12​
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27​
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14​
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24​
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12​
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21​
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18​
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17​
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11​
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11​
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12​
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11​
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11​
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19​
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13-15-15-18​
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12​
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10​
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[TD="class: td1"]
11​
[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]
11​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: td1"]97773[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Bridger[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Unknown Origin[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]J-M172[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]
12​
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[TD="class: td1"]
24​
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[TD="class: td1"]
15​
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10​
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11​
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11​
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27​
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17​
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8-9​
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11​
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11​
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27​
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16​
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19​
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31​
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[TD="class: td1"]938984[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Bridger[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Joseph Bridger b 1631 and d.1686[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]England[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]J-M172[/TD]
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12​
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[TR]
[TD="class: td1"]13773[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Bridger[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Joseph Bridger, (1632-1686)[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]England[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]J-M172[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]
12​
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24​
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15​
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10​
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11​
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12​
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11​
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27​
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17​
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8-9​
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11​
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11​
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tcfield said:
In the Eupedia article about the J-2 Haplogroup, it is mentioned that Sir John Field (~1520-1586), the astronomer, is in the subclade J2b-Z8429. John Field's haplogroup designation is a subject of question within the Field Project, and I am wondering what the basis for the subclade designation is here.
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I see you Fields being J2b-L283>Y16536. This post is quite old and more data was gathered over the time, so if you by chance are still active here and there on this forum could you inform us in regards to these samples here (perhaps you are even one of them?):

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[TR]
[TD="class: td1"]410 J2-FGC61400>FGC61398 Descendants of William Feild, Hertfordshire: BigY-345305/YF08379, FGC-NKDT5/YF11868[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: td1"]554732[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]Field[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]John Field, b: 1613 Hertfordshire, d. 1686 RI[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]England[/TD]
[TD="class: td1"]J-FGC61400[/TD]
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12​
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24​
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15​
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11​
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13​
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11​
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28​
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16​
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8-9​
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11​
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11​
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28​
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16​
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19​
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29​
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10​
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16​
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20​
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11​
[/TD]
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8​
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11​
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12​
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12​
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18​
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[TD="class: td1"]William Feild, b. bef 1600, Herts, UK[/TD]
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John Field (astronomer) died in 1587 and the oldest tracked ancestor on the FTDNA project was born in 1613 and one vaguely before the 1600s. Is this a paternal relative or even direct descendant of John Field? Considering they trace ancestry to Hertfordshire it would be quite plausible and with that that John Field was indeed J2b-L283>Y16536.
 
according to ftdna discover tool
this legendary painter belonged to y haplogroup j2 (more specifically j2-L26 );-)

Vincent van Gogh was a Dutch post-impressionist painter who posthumously became one of the most famous and influential figures in the history of Western art. He was born in Groot-Zundert, Netherlands on March 30, 1853, the oldest child in a family of art dealers. Despite his love for art, van Gogh struggled to find his place in the art world and suffered from depression and mental illness throughout his life.
Vincent drew as a child and worked as an art dealer as a young man. He often traveled for his work and became depressed after being transferred to London. He turned to religion and spent some time as a Protestant missionary in Belgium. After a period of poor health and loneliness, he moved back to his parents and took up painting in 1881 at age 28.
His younger brother Theo, also an art dealer, supported him financially and most of what is known about Vincent today comes from the over 650 surviving letters from their long and frequent correspondence.
Vincent_van_Gogh_-_Sunflowers_-_VGM_F458.jpg


Sunflowers, painted August 1889 (Public domain)
In Vincent’s early artistic career, he mostly depicted still objects and realistic peasant characters without many signs of the vivid colors that would later come to characterize his art. He moved to Paris in 1886 and met members of the avant-garde who were going against the impressionist style. In the following years, he experimented with colors, his paintings became brighter, and he developed the unique artistic style for which he is known.
Despite his talent, van Gogh struggled to gain recognition during his lifetime, and his work was often rejected by galleries and collectors. He lived in poverty and suffered from mental health issues. In 1888, he severed his own left ear with a razor. In 1889, he suffered a mental breakdown and voluntarily admitted himself to a mental asylum in Saint-Paul-de-Mausole, France. It was during this time that he produced some of his most famous works, including "Starry Night" and "Irises."
Van_Gogh_-_Starry_Night_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg



Van Gogh died at the age of 37 on July 29, 1890, after suffering a gunshot wound that was likely self-inflicted. Despite his tragic end, van Gogh's work has had a lasting impact on the art world, and he is now considered one of the greatest artists in history.
Vincent’s haplogroup was determined by Y-DNA testing of his great-great-grandnephew Lieuwe van Gogh, who is also a Dutch painter. Lieuwe’s great-great-grandfather was Theo van Gogh (1857-1891), the younger brother of Vincent van Gogh.
In 2014, Lieuwe van Gogh participated in Diemut Strebe’s science-art project Sugababe, which used genetic engineering to reconstruct Vincent van Gogh's ear using DNA from an original letter from Vincent and cartilage samples from Lieuwe’s ear.
Genetic information sourced from Toine van der Weerden: Van Gogh versus de Groot verslag. Biographical information from Wikipedia. Pictured: Vincent van Gogh Self-Portrait, September 1889 (Public domain). See also: Lieuwe van Gogh's website.




source:

https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/J-L26/notable




 
kingjohn said:
according to ftdna discover tool
this legendary painter belonged to y haplogroup j2 (more specifically j2-L26 );-)

Vincent van Gogh was a Dutch post-impressionist painter who posthumously became one of the most famous and influential figures in the history of Western art. He was born in Groot-Zundert, Netherlands on March 30, 1853, the oldest child in a family of art dealers. Despite his love for art, van Gogh struggled to find his place in the art world and suffered from depression and mental illness throughout his life.
Vincent drew as a child and worked as an art dealer as a young man. He often traveled for his work and became depressed after being transferred to London. He turned to religion and spent some time as a Protestant missionary in Belgium. After a period of poor health and loneliness, he moved back to his parents and took up painting in 1881 at age 28.
His younger brother Theo, also an art dealer, supported him financially and most of what is known about Vincent today comes from the over 650 surviving letters from their long and frequent correspondence.
Vincent_van_Gogh_-_Sunflowers_-_VGM_F458.jpg


Sunflowers, painted August 1889 (Public domain)
In Vincent’s early artistic career, he mostly depicted still objects and realistic peasant characters without many signs of the vivid colors that would later come to characterize his art. He moved to Paris in 1886 and met members of the avant-garde who were going against the impressionist style. In the following years, he experimented with colors, his paintings became brighter, and he developed the unique artistic style for which he is known.
Despite his talent, van Gogh struggled to gain recognition during his lifetime, and his work was often rejected by galleries and collectors. He lived in poverty and suffered from mental health issues. In 1888, he severed his own left ear with a razor. In 1889, he suffered a mental breakdown and voluntarily admitted himself to a mental asylum in Saint-Paul-de-Mausole, France. It was during this time that he produced some of his most famous works, including "Starry Night" and "Irises."
Van_Gogh_-_Starry_Night_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg



Van Gogh died at the age of 37 on July 29, 1890, after suffering a gunshot wound that was likely self-inflicted. Despite his tragic end, van Gogh's work has had a lasting impact on the art world, and he is now considered one of the greatest artists in history.
Vincent’s haplogroup was determined by Y-DNA testing of his great-great-grandnephew Lieuwe van Gogh, who is also a Dutch painter. Lieuwe’s great-great-grandfather was Theo van Gogh (1857-1891), the younger brother of Vincent van Gogh.
In 2014, Lieuwe van Gogh participated in Diemut Strebe’s science-art project Sugababe, which used genetic engineering to reconstruct Vincent van Gogh's ear using DNA from an original letter from Vincent and cartilage samples from Lieuwe’s ear.
Genetic information sourced from Toine van der Weerden: Van Gogh versus de Groot verslag. Biographical information from Wikipedia. Pictured: Vincent van Gogh Self-Portrait, September 1889 (Public domain). See also: Lieuwe van Gogh's website.




source:

https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/J-L26/notable
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Really cool.
 
I don't know if anyone has ever seen his paintings in person, but as wonderful as they look in reproductions, it's nothing to the impact they make in person, partly because the paint is so thick it rises from the frame and it all becomes almost three dimensional.

Another one of my favorites:

wheat-field-with-cypresses-digital-remastered-edition-vincent-van-gogh.jpg
 
Angela said:
I don't know if anyone has ever seen his paintings in person, but as wonderful as they look in reproductions, it's nothing to the impact they make in person, partly because the paint is so thick it rises from the frame and it all becomes almost three dimensional.

Another one of my favorites:

wheat-field-with-cypresses-digital-remastered-edition-vincent-van-gogh.jpg
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… went to “Beyond Van Gogh” … last September:

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kingjohn said:
according to ftdna discover tool
this legendary painter belonged to y haplogroup j2 (more specifically j2-L26 );-)

Vincent van Gogh was a Dutch post-impressionist painter who posthumously became one of the most famous and influential figures in the history of Western art. He was born in Groot-Zundert, Netherlands on March 30, 1853, the oldest child in a family of art dealers. Despite his love for art, van Gogh struggled to find his place in the art world and suffered from depression and mental illness throughout his life.
Vincent drew as a child and worked as an art dealer as a young man. He often traveled for his work and became depressed after being transferred to London. He turned to religion and spent some time as a Protestant missionary in Belgium. After a period of poor health and loneliness, he moved back to his parents and took up painting in 1881 at age 28.
His younger brother Theo, also an art dealer, supported him financially and most of what is known about Vincent today comes from the over 650 surviving letters from their long and frequent correspondence.
Vincent_van_Gogh_-_Sunflowers_-_VGM_F458.jpg


Sunflowers, painted August 1889 (Public domain)
In Vincent’s early artistic career, he mostly depicted still objects and realistic peasant characters without many signs of the vivid colors that would later come to characterize his art. He moved to Paris in 1886 and met members of the avant-garde who were going against the impressionist style. In the following years, he experimented with colors, his paintings became brighter, and he developed the unique artistic style for which he is known.
Despite his talent, van Gogh struggled to gain recognition during his lifetime, and his work was often rejected by galleries and collectors. He lived in poverty and suffered from mental health issues. In 1888, he severed his own left ear with a razor. In 1889, he suffered a mental breakdown and voluntarily admitted himself to a mental asylum in Saint-Paul-de-Mausole, France. It was during this time that he produced some of his most famous works, including "Starry Night" and "Irises."
Van_Gogh_-_Starry_Night_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg



Van Gogh died at the age of 37 on July 29, 1890, after suffering a gunshot wound that was likely self-inflicted. Despite his tragic end, van Gogh's work has had a lasting impact on the art world, and he is now considered one of the greatest artists in history.
Vincent’s haplogroup was determined by Y-DNA testing of his great-great-grandnephew Lieuwe van Gogh, who is also a Dutch painter. Lieuwe’s great-great-grandfather was Theo van Gogh (1857-1891), the younger brother of Vincent van Gogh.
In 2014, Lieuwe van Gogh participated in Diemut Strebe’s science-art project Sugababe, which used genetic engineering to reconstruct Vincent van Gogh's ear using DNA from an original letter from Vincent and cartilage samples from Lieuwe’s ear.
Genetic information sourced from Toine van der Weerden: Van Gogh versus de Groot verslag. Biographical information from Wikipedia. Pictured: Vincent van Gogh Self-Portrait, September 1889 (Public domain). See also: Lieuwe van Gogh's website.




source:

https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/J-L26/notable
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Many thanks, I saw it on my FTDNA Notable connections some days ago. It would be great to have further news regarding his subclade under JL26, because this clade is a bit too old.
 
@Salento, I went to that exhibit too, it was great! I also went to one similar based on King Tut.
 
Jovialis said:
@Salento, I went to that exhibit too, it was great! I also went to one similar based on King Tut.
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… the Boy King, … very cool Jovialis :)
 
kingjohn said:
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This is BS. First of all there are many living descendants of the house of Montgomery who have been tested and they either belong to J2 or R1b, showing that after 1,000 years non-paternity events do occur.
Secondly, there is absolutely no reliable evidence that the Montgomery family descends from the same patrilineal lineage as the Dukes of Normandy. I should know, I descend from both houses and analysed my genealogy in detail.

Furthermore, the DNA testing of Richard III's remains were tested (G2a) and compared with several descendants of the House of Plantagenet (all R1b-U152) and didn't match, showing once again that non-paternity events happened even in royal families.

The only conclusive evidence of Rollo or William the conqueror's Y-DNA would have to come from testing directly their remains.
 
Maciamo said:
This is BS. First of all there are many living descendants of the house of Montgomery who have been tested and they either belong to J2 or R1b, showing that after 1,000 years non-paternity events do occur.
Secondly, there is absolutely no reliable evidence that the Montgomery family descends from the same patrilineal lineage as the Dukes of Normandy. I should know, I descend from both houses and analysed my genealogy in detail.

Furthermore, the DNA testing of Richard III's remains were tested (G2a) and compared with several descendants of the House of Plantagenet (all R1b-U152) and didn't match, showing once again that non-paternity events happened even in royal families.

The only conclusive evidence of Rollo or William the conqueror's Y-DNA would have to come from testing directly their remains.
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Agree
I thought that in order to publish such an article
In Researchgate they might have evidence
Rather than assuming
 
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Another laughable statement about J2-M172 from self proclaimed "experts" who use macrohaplogroups in their argumentation and claim "it can be shown to have originated in the fertile crescent" 🤣. Literally no clue about uniparental analysis and get the stupid idea that paleolithic lineages are the answer to deciphering someone's geneaology.

Meanwhile we find 13-10.000 year old basal and the oldest Mesolithic J2-M172 samples in Kotias and the northern Caucasus something which is the case for J1-M267 basal lineages too. Remembering those old super basal samples in Eastern Europe.

Ah sure "directly descend from ancient Semitic peoples", maybe it's that mysterious Levantine mass migration? One embarrassing statement after another.
 
Archetype0ne said:
Could you elaborate if you have full access. Do we know anything beyond J2?
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I think the J2 they're talking about is J2a-Y13128>Y14434>Y14439>Y16842>Y22056. So yeah the pseudoscientific fertile crescent blabbering is utter non sense. I don't have a list of Y13128 distribution but from what I remember it has been found from the Panonnian plain to Eastern Balkans, Pelagonia? and the Aegean spanning from the Neolithic (Chalcolithic) to the IA.
 
Galaxy Overlord said:
From what I've seen, his paternal line has been traced to Phillipe Bieber (born 1856) Zilling, Alsace-Lorraine. This is a region very close to the Rhine J-L283 hot spots and the city of Strasbourg, correlating with the Roman Rhine Lime and henceforth likely implying Roman mediated migration. "Argentoratum or Argentorate was the ancient name of the city of Strasbourg. The name was first mentioned in 12 BC, when it was a Roman military outpost established by Nero Claudius Drusus. From 90 AD the Legio VIII Augusta was permanently stationed there."(Wikipedia)

The Family Tree DNA evidence from the Beaver(s)/Biwer Surname Y DNA Project demonstrated the Bieber Subgroup deriving from Alsace/Pensylvania, which contained only J-M172 and J-M241 Y DNA Samples. I assume the Pensylvania is added for some samples who have not yet connected their paternal line to an Alsace ancestor who migrated to the US. The same surname spelling and Alsace region specification as Phillipe Bieber, Justin Bieber's Great x3 Grandfather, has demonstrated decent evidence that he is possibly J-M172 and therefore likely J-L283. In order to confirm we must find a common paternal ancestor between one of the Family Tree samples and Justin.

It would also be nice if one of them pursued further sub-clade testing to confirm J-L283. Then he could probably go under the notable people section on the Eupedia J2 Haplogroup page. Does anyone have the ability to contact these Biebers, or the ability to find a common paternal ancestor?
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I am actually directly related to the family
 
Galaxy Overlord said:
From what I've seen, his paternal line has been traced to Phillipe Bieber (born 1856) Zilling, Alsace-Lorraine. This is a region very close to the Rhine J-L283 hot spots and the city of Strasbourg, correlating with the Roman Rhine Lime and henceforth likely implying Roman mediated migration. "Argentoratum or Argentorate was the ancient name of the city of Strasbourg. The name was first mentioned in 12 BC, when it was a Roman military outpost established by Nero Claudius Drusus. From 90 AD the Legio VIII Augusta was permanently stationed there."(Wikipedia)

The Family Tree DNA evidence from the Beaver(s)/Biwer Surname Y DNA Project demonstrated the Bieber Subgroup deriving from Alsace/Pensylvania, which contained only J-M172 and J-M241 Y DNA Samples. I assume the Pensylvania is added for some samples who have not yet connected their paternal line to an Alsace ancestor who migrated to the US. The same surname spelling and Alsace region specification as Phillipe Bieber, Justin Bieber's Great x3 Grandfather, has demonstrated decent evidence that he is possibly J-M172 and therefore likely J-L283. In order to confirm we must find a common paternal ancestor between one of the Family Tree samples and Justin.

It would also be nice if one of them pursued further sub-clade testing to confirm J-L283. Then he could probably go under the notable people section on the Eupedia J2 Haplogroup page. Does anyone have the ability to contact these Biebers, or the ability to find a common paternal ancestor?
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Also I have no idea about the explanation of them being a Roman family. According to the actual family history, their original name was de Beauvoir, They later changed the name to Bieber. This was actually because of shared family names. That was a really big thing in the day oof Charlemagne. They are not as common as they used to be back in that day though. So it's rare to really find these. By what my research has suggested is that the family is more of an old Dutch Frankish family, then they really are of France since a lot of them have shared ancestors, which were the Franks. Their family name. Beauvoir, Was first introduced throughout the Sprink's when they named a Greek statement after it. Beauvoir, Bieber, Beaver, Bever, Biever. Etc... Are all more modern names That were given to them from their shared ancestor as I explained, which is why a lot of French families are so big on it.
 
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