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No, sadly I have just this link; which curiously nobody seem take in count (I guess that don't fit well with their agenda). Except that, 100% agree with you and Johannes about the zealoutry for the science; I really like your examples about hair colors lol.

Maybe for Yamna; but not for the ancestors of CW; for example their ancestors; the Globular Amphora Culture (probably the first proto-Indo-Europeans; around 3.400-2.800); they have 80% of light hairs and eyes (TYR and HERC2) according Haak 2015 (edit: according Wilde Sandra), you can see the...

Okay no problem, and thank you very much for your words, but to be honest I'm little tired to repeat each time my opinion; I'm not fluent in english, so for me it's a little complicated; that take too much of my energy lol. Thank you again for these threads, but also for your clear logical...

Seriously I don't understand their childish reaction, specially when your question is very clear. About the Urheimat in East, I guess there are always some scholars who continues to defend differents positions regardless the evidences, some peoples continue see the Umeirath around Iran/central...

For to have contributed to derail this very interesting thread, and thank you for to have reply and explain better than myself my own point of view, lol (I don't see where Lebrock see a contradiction for these isolated blond Papu who are a tiny minority; I make a parallel about a the weak...

Yes like I say between 1/3 and half, and apparently for Eurogenes it seem more around 40-45% in average, and like Rethel have said that don't change the main problem.

Thousand times sorry Rethel, I'm very sorry. Lebrock, thank you for to have taken the time to reply, I think we are just agree to disagree, that would be my last reply; thanks again. Again sorry Rethel; and thank you for this thread.

Of course I have already known this kind of pictures, but that don't change the fact that unhealthy. Well...no: http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/ocular-albinism "Ocular albinism is characterized by severely impaired sharpness of vision (visual acuity) and problems with combining vision from...

For the Aryans, if we trust academic study: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Iranian_languages So closer to the Western Siberian part/Russian and Ural river. @Rethel Yes, I have never...

Yes, lol, thanks for the link, so I guess Lebrock and me are agree to disagree.

No, but I find funny that you talk first about a theory, so not yet proven, and say in the same that have a been proven, that a contradiction, and no population genetic, archeology etc...are not agree about everything, it's far from the true, you can see lot of refutation about these kinds of...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocular_albinism be careful with the sensational pictures you can found in internet, this little girl is simply ill; that nothing to do with healthing blue eyes from Europeans. Again we should be careful with this kind of sensational article; first that yet to...

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/30936-Yamna-quot-25-ENF-30-35-ANE-quot-and-40-45-WHG some of them have near 45% WHG, so we can talk of half, of if you prefer between 1/3 and 1/2; so near half.

Yes, and that the case with these peoples but they don't have blue eyes, you can find some discussion about that in various forums, and you know they are not a very large group, they are a tiny tribe (320 peoples !!!), if one of them would have blue eyes, that would have been well known.

Lol again 100% agree with you Rethel, that have absolutely no sense.

ANE is closely related to indo-europeans too and Yamna were supposed to be half WHG...for Karitiana, how I know they don't have blue eyes ? Very simple, with the pictures...

No, not 99%, there are too much problem also with modern peoples to be sure for ancients WHG; for example, for what I have read, the karitiana, an ameridians groups have the genes for blue eyes, but have dark brown eyes..so I guess other factors could play a role.

I don't have to explain something, I'm not a scientific, but I know when something have no sense; if you are not agree, please explain me how today, in USA, among Whites peoples, despites that they have the populations with more powers, blue eyes simply disappear and how a tiny minority like WHG...

Lol that sound like a preach for "natural selection", like a religious speech.:laughing: More seriously, I don't think Rethel is 100% against the theory of the natural selection, he is against the way that have been used like a magical explanation, blue eyes is a recessive traits, that have...

Well, the problem that blue eyes have no advantage and is extremely recessive (see my link with the USA); and we know the WHG were a really weak numbers and have been replaced by Yamna/indo-Europeans peoples (and before that by farmers); I don't see how natural selection could work in this...