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  1. Humanist

    101 Ancient Eurasian Genomes Available Online

    What region are you referring to?
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    Assyrians.. what European ethnicities can they pass for? Choose all that apply.

    Thanks, sparkey. Please let me add a few notes. Hello, MOESAN. Regarding the nomenclature issue, please see the opinion of the eminent Assyriologist, Dr. Simo Parpola, in my post here, and copied below: National and Ethnic Identity in the Neo-Assyrian Empire and Assyrian Identity in...
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    Dr Doug McDonald BGA analysis results

    One of Dr. McDonald's plots, with two Syrian Arabs, two Iraqi Mandaeans, one additional Armenian, and several Assyrians (Syriacs, Chaldeans, and "Nestorians") added. This does not include Turks, Iranians, Kurds, Georgians, and others, as the plot is cropped where the original image contained a...
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    Multiple choice; Where in Europe can Armenians and Georgians pass as natives?

    David at Eurogenes created a MDS plot for a few populations yesterday. I superimposed the plot over a map of the general region associated with the particular populations examined. The original MDS is also provided (2nd image). The two Iraqi Arabs are from Baghdad and S Iraq. The...
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    Modern Assyrians (split from "Were the Aryan who ruled the Mitanni"...)

    Dogmatic does not equal bias. And, quite frankly, I take great offense to even the suggestion. There was nothing to interpret. Dr. McDonald has consistently placed the great majority of Kurds in what is today part of NW Iran. I believe the average spot may be a bit too far east, and perhaps...
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    Modern Assyrians (split from "Were the Aryan who ruled the Mitanni"...)

    There is a fine line between being passionate, and being disrespectful. This gentleman, from my perspective, has crossed that line a number of times. This includes instances where the issue being discussed pertained to Assyrians, or where an Assyrian forum member was engaged in the discussion...
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    Modern Assyrians (split from "Were the Aryan who ruled the Mitanni"...)

    Green = Kurds. Kurds of Iraqi origin, and Zaza Kurds. And, sorry, this is what I thought he had stated in his thread on ABF. I thought he was definitively Zaza. But, he is Alevi, with "possibly some Zaza." "Alevi Kurds from Dersim (possibly some Zaza), with oral ties to Khorasan." All of...
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    Modern Assyrians (split from "Were the Aryan who ruled the Mitanni"...)

    Green=Iraqi Kurd and Zaza Fuchsia=Turk (w/ believed Khorasanian ancestry) Cyan=Armenian Blue=Iraqi Mandaean (From S Iraq) Red=Assyrian (Chaldean Catholic, Syriac Orthodox, and "Nestorian") Orange=Syrian (Arab Muslim) Adding two Syrians and one new Assyrian. Regarding Mosul...
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    Modern Assyrians (split from "Were the Aryan who ruled the Mitanni"...)

    How is Cobol19 "maybe Armenian/Turkish?" The average McDonald green spot on the map for 7 Assyrians is NE Iraq*. See the first attachment. The second attachment contains the central point of the McDonald green (average) spots for only those individuals who received the new McDonald analysis...
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    Presidential DNA Signatures - is there a list somewhere??

    Jefferson's T Y-DNA line may have moved north/west millennia ago. Haplogroup T is one of the more important paternal lines in Assyrians. See: 1.http://www.familytreedna.com/public/AssyrianHeritageDNAProject/default.aspx?section=yresults 2.Mendez et al. (2011) 3.Yepiskoposyan et al. (2006)
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    Updated all haplogroup maps for Caucasus and Kurdistan

    Hello Maciamo. Would you please add Assyrians and Yezidis? "Genetic Testing of Language Replacement Hypothesis in Southwest Asia" LEVON YEPISKOPOSIAN, ASHOT HARUTYUNIAN, ARMINE KHUDOYAN Arya International University, Yerevan Institute of Man, Yerevan 2006 n=x 106 hgx Assyrian hg1...
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    New map of haplogroup T

    And, for those interested, a PC plot from Mendez et al., of the "kinship R matrix" based on the Y-DNA frequencies for populations (after removal of outliers). Populations:
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    New map of haplogroup T

    Were the results of the Mendez et al. study included in the frequencies? Increased Resolution of Y Chromosome Haplogroup T Defines Relationships among Populations of the Near East, Europe,and Africa Hum Biol. 2011 Feb;83(1):39-53. POP n T M184* M70* PS21* P77 P330 P321* P317 L131* P322* P327...
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    Did you know that Kurds(Kurdish PeoPle) are Europeans?

    sparkey. Just want to clarify one thing. That last one is not actually Chiaroni et al., but rather a questionable study out of Iran, on Iranian minority religious groups. Please see Dienekes' post on this paper, for more information: "Y Chromosome variation in Iranian religious groups." The...
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    Did you know that Kurds(Kurdish PeoPle) are Europeans?

    You appear to have some interest in the question, so, you may also find this worthy a read: National and Ethnic Identity in the Neo-Assyrian Empire and Assyrian Identity in Post-Empire Times Dr. Simo Parpola (Assyriologist) Also see: "Çineköy inscription" on Wiki. And, REMARKS ON THE...
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    Did you know that Kurds(Kurdish PeoPle) are Europeans?

    Hi sparkey. No, I was not referring to you. We do indeed share genes with Syrians. Their Arabian admixture, however, particularly when it is associated with African admixture (presumably via the Arab slave trade), complicates these sorts of analyses. But, if you look at the less admixed...
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    Did you know that Kurds(Kurdish PeoPle) are Europeans?

    I am not going to reply to some of the patently false statements made about my people in this thread. I would hope folks would refer to the genetic data, and let it speak for itself. However, I will address the suggestion that we are principally Jordanian. This is, I suppose, a reference to...
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    Y-DNA haplogroups of ancient civilizations

    Updated frequencies The great majority of modern Aramaic-speaking Assyrian Y-DNA is distributed across five primary haplogroups: n=70 R1b 27% J1 17% J2 16% T 11% G 11% E1b 4% R1a 4% R2a 3% F 1% I 1% L 1% Q1b 1% The above distribution is most...
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