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Demosthenes’ claim that Macedonians were not Greek was largely political rhetoric, aimed at uniting southern Greek city-states against Philip II’s growing power. He portrayed Philip as an outsider to rally opposition, but this wasn’t an objective statement about ethnicity. The Macedonian royal...

Technically you are correct. Macedonia was never a city state in the way Athens or Sparta were. It was an actual kingdom. My point wasn’t to suggest that Macedonia was a city state, but rather to emphasize its place within the wider Hellenic world. Again you knew that but wanted an aha moment. A...

You raise an important point and I agree that DNA alone doesn’t determine cultural identity. Culture is shaped by many factors including language, traditions and shared experiences. It can also evolve over time but when it comes to ancient Macedonians, the evidence suggests that they were part...

I got 25% Southern Italian and 4% Spain. Now that’s a surprise considering my great grandparents are 3 greek and one thats pennsylvanian dutch and jewish. I’m thinking the southern Italian probably overlapping with Greek?

That’s no secret that it was Alexander the Great united all the Greek city states into one. All that meant was that Macedonia was the most powerful of all the Greek city states and were able to conquer the rest and bring them into one. Rogers’ statement implies that after this loss, Greece would...

This claim is not accurate. The passage you’re referring to from Quintus Curtius Rufus (Book VI, 9, 37) describes an incident during Alexander the Great’s campaigns. It’s talking about a moment of heightened tension during a mutiny when Alexander was frustrated and addressed his Macedonian...

Go ahead and share. Who’s stopping you? I’d love to see what you have and I’ll share what I have. I have so much to share too. One simple question that I like to ask people who are of the opinion that the Macedonians weren’t Greek is why didn’t Alexander the Great spread Macedonianism as opposed...

I typically prefer to read rather than post, but when I come across fallacies like yours, it’s hard not to respond. I’m not going to flood the thread with all my sources of historical evidence from both ancient and modern historians. I don’t want to derail the discussion, so I’ll keep it...

How do you get that data from GED?

Just delete for me. Thanks