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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Thats still somewhat far. Hopefully, you will break your geneology brickwall and find more documentation. You probably know a bit already, considering you traced it to 18th century galicia, but pares have some resources for that if you don't for whatever reason. Http...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Could be other ways. Mercenaries who worked for carthagenians phonecians then landed in spain. Balkanites who got absorbed by later eastern suebians or other goth tribes and then migrated to west spain. Maybe absorbed by celts who later establish some french or celtic related kingdom...
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    Debate Are religious people somehow weaker than atheistic people?

    Probably not. Their blind faith will take them either far or will lead them continuously in a delusion.
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    Etruscan possibly Gaelic + Brythonic.

    Also there is post z615 in Sardinia but they are modern samples
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    Etruscan possibly Gaelic + Brythonic.

    They are different for obvious reasons.. Because they are -z585, they are more basal then 99.9999 percent then all ancient sample J-L283 on mainland. And they are basal in the J-L283 tree. Are you familiar with the J-L283 tree? R1B and G isn't J-L283. There is only 1 -z585 clade, its a J-YP91 in...
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