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I think Lazaridis is right about the genetic continuity between the Mycenaeans and the Classical Greeks. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354261916_Cosmopolitanism_at_the_Roman_Danubian_Frontier_Slavic_Migrations_and_the_Genomic_Formation_of_Modern_Balkan_Peoples

Exactly Angela. Contrary to what many thought (we already know who these "many" are), it is the present-day mainland Greeks that are more "northern" than the classic ones. :smile:

In the second paper, I was surprised to see 40% light hair and 20% blonde hair in the GRC_Minoan_Lasithi_BA samples. I thought they were darker.

Afrocentrists are as stupid as white supremacists. Anyway, I also expected the papers to say something about the Dzudzuana cave. Because, it was considered by Lazaridis to be the core of West Eurasian ancestry and so I was a little disappointed that it wasn't mentioned in the papers. We hope...

I would like to apologize to everyone for the fact that I introduced political ideology to this forum. Forums of this type cannot be contaminated by politics, I am ashamed of what I did and I promise I will never repeat such an act again. Now, back to the topic of this forum: the papers that...

Proto Indo-Anatolian (archaic PIE) --> Hittite (extint language). Proto Indo-European (late PIE) --> preesent day IE languages. Late PIE = creole language resulting from the junction of Indo-Anatolian (archaic PIE) and the language of the EHG population (Uralic? Siberian?). In any case...

Yes. English: seven. Russian: sem'. Hindi: saat. Arabic: saba. Hebrew: sheba. amharic: sebati.

What? Lol! I never said that there was an negligible percentage of steppe in the Mycenaeans. Mycenaeans had an low steppe percentage, but it was not definitely negligible. I was referring to Anatolia when I said negligible not to Greece.

I wasn't clear, I apologize: number 7 (seven). English: seven. Russian: sem'. Hindi: saat. Arabic: saba. Hebrew: sheba. amharic: sebati.

https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/events/2022/09/the-genetic-history-of-the-southern-arc-a-bridge-between-west-asia-and-europe quote: "At least two streams of migration transmitted Caucasus and Anatolian/LEVANTINE ancestry northward, contributing to Yamnaya steppe pastoralists" Does this...

And? What does that contradict what I've shown? :wondering:

Exactly! :laughing:

You may be right, but my point of view in showing this is that a negligible percentage of steppe ancestry is not valid to support the emergence of Indo-European languages in a given region. Cheers for you too.

Anyway, if Reich is right, and apparently from what I read in the summary of the link firetown gave us (very grateful for that), it could have been the girls who introduced archaic PIE to the steppe. And long live the women! Even though I'm a gay man, I'm proud that my best friends are women...

I don't deny it, but, no offense, you're incomparably more likely to be wrong than Reich. :)

Oh yes, they have! If not, why would Reich be claiming they have?

It seems that sub-Saharan populations also have this "minor steppe influence" (from "POPULATION GENOMICS OF STONE AGE EURASIA" - Allentoft et al. 2022):

Once again: if you think northern Iran is an unlikely place for archaic PIE to emerge due to the steppe populations "weak" non-EHG ancestry percentage (35%), so by logic it is even more unlikely that the proto-Greek came from the steppe (as the Mycenaeans had approximately half that value in...

"no evidence for systematic differences in steppe ancestry among social strata, such as those of the elite buried at the Palace of Nestor in Pylos" - Reich didn't mean to dismiss steppe ancestry in Proto-Greek origin by saying this, just that the dispersion of IE languages had nothing to do with...

The current Basque language, the old Iberian (non-Indo-European) and Etruscan languages, how do you explain the existence of these languages in populations where the overwhelming majority of males have/had the R1b haplogroup? I also expect a surprise. :awesome: