:wondering: If you guys are so certain that we are wrong about exploring this central balkans tangent about the proto-Albanians, which is supported by countless linguists, then just sit back and laugh at us for being so wrong.
You guys have your "On the autochthony of Albanian" thread on...
I guess it would be important to explore the different tribes in this region then.
The Dardani probably were not quite this east, but should be mention as being a possible minority element in their easternmost region. In this line of reasoning, maybe also the Macedones should be mentioned as...
Lol, he's also straight away trying to do some damage control:
"The fact that they have quite different profiles to each other as well strongly suggests that by the EIA, different E-V13 clades were part of very different populations and profiles."
Smerdaleos believes Skodra in Illyria was actually "Skudra" as greeks tended to render /u/ as /o/.
Also, Hammond believed the chanelled ware that appears in Gajtan, Shkodra, as well as in central Albania, all the way to Lofkend, to have been the Brygians.
But its clear that Brygians could not...
Carl Patsch interestingly argued that the Thracians were in Albania/West Balkans before the Illyrians.
While this is most probably wrong, he did also argue some toponyms in Illyria like "Hebros" (Devoll) to be Thracian in origin (compare Hebros in Thrace).
He also argued that Scodra was...
Wrong. Plasari deserves to be trash talked for misleading people and totally forcing disjointed unconnected things together to force a conclusion which doesnt exist.
He tries to place arbon from polybius in Albania when its clearly not in Albania going from polybius' account alone. He knows...
The change of arb- to rab- is a slavic sound law that happened before the end of the 800s, called slavic liquid metathesis.
For another example, skardona became skradin, or Alb- became Lab- in Laberia through slavic liquid metathesis.
Arb- appears in the old name of the croatian island Rab...
The inscription near Shkup which actually says Albanopolis is obviously related to the Albanoi, (remember they had no illyrian names also) as is the one near Shtip, but the "Arbaios" from finiq has nothing to do with Albanopolis.
This is Aurel Plasari's bullshit hypothesis and lies that have...
Yes, but the second quote mentioned that it appears in north albania and as far as kosova, but was going into more specific subtypes of chanelled ware (horizontal chanelling vs vertical, etc)
This image was made in 2010 by Seth Pevnick and Esmeralda Agolli of the Lofkend Archaeological project, so I consider it more up to date than Prendi's localisations.
Also interesting to note how hard Prendi's trying to minimise possibility of any migrants bringing the chanelled ware in those...
Obviously, if the hypothesis that chanelled ware spread ev13 is correct, then i agree that we should expect ev13 in albania since LBA-EIA since that is when chanelled ware appears in Albania. Ive said this a couple of times here.
Also, I wonder what type of autosomal signature these chanelled...
This is the position of Bruzmi also, that it is a very minor lineage which had a founder effect in the roman era.
I think his hypothesis is a forced one just to muddy the water and distract from focus, i.e. damage control about the ev13s in thrace, the absence of ev13s in the west, etc.
Lets not...
Damn, excine really went and got a 117 page thread locked because some new articles from 2022 were posted that didn't line up with his fantasies 😱
Excine:
"In my opinion, this topic should be temporarily locked until the situation is resolved, as a suspiciously large number of sock accounts...
Yes, I personally photographed and highlighted those pages from the first edition print of this book in the library of tirana archive, since these passages about alexander were removed from the main later editions of this book.
I have tried to find corroborating claims for this but have not had...
I think you've mistaken this for the account by Rose W. Lane. Ive tried for a long time to find these stories recorded in Albanian somewhere with no luck.
So you also have a problem with basic reading comprehension? My comment clearly states that the deepest phylogeny of Albanian is with Greek as is argued by them in the paper alongisde others like Matzinger.
That doesn't negate the fact that the 11-19 counting system of Albanian and Slavic...
Illyrian names do appear all the way deep into Epirus territory, in Dodona in South Epirus for example in very old prayer tablets, they found names like Gent, etc.
Only problem with this is that Gent and Illyrian names in general don't fit proto-Albanian.
Names like Gent and Teuta very...
Anyway, to get back to reality.
The new paper about Albanian's phylogenetic position has been released with open access.
Hyllested and Joseph, like Matzinger, reaffirm that Albanian's deepest phylogenetic linguistic position is with Greek.
However, there is a deep and non-trivial isogloss...
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