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  1. Johane Derite

    Where does the Albanian language come from? [VIDEO]

    Some important points from Schramm on concrete implications about the Proto-Romanian / Proto-Albanian symbiosis. - Proto-Romanians rented lands owned by Proto-Albanians and learnt transhumance shepherding from them - The Proto-Albanians and Proto-Romanians spent winter months in close proximity...
  2. Johane Derite

    Where does the Albanian language come from? [VIDEO]

    Hard to say for now. This is the region that Schramm argued for, and the "Bessi" from this region in the 4th century that were converted by Nicetas. As for wikipedia, I would be wary as it is vandalized by Bruzmi/Corrigendum and co. On there it brings up the "hellenic influence" of the Bessi...
  3. Johane Derite

    Where does the Albanian language come from? [VIDEO]

    Here is Gottfried Schramms entire book about the early christianisation of proto-Albanians, where he makes his case for why proto-Albanian homeland being the west half of Dacia Mediterranea. This is an Albanian translation, a bit clunky in some parts but useful nonetheless. Especially...
  4. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    That makes no sense. Why would pëdhanë come from Bassania if that is not where Bassania was.
  5. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    Anyway, this thread has seriusly been derailed. It is about E-V13 frequencies and new data so lets get back to that: For every Illyrian linguistic correspondence that we find in Albanian, there are 2.5 as many Thracian correspondences. Linguistically the origin of this obviously cannot be...
  6. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    I didn't post Jokl. You were the one that posted him as Jokl was in your image that you screenshotted from Grok saying that the toponyms are not of Albanian form. You are just inventing things now, first you accuse me of posting from some author i never read before, now you accuse me of...
  7. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    Bassania was discovered in 2022 and it is not Pëdhanë, so this is an archaeological refutation not from 1920s as you falsely accuse but from the last 3 years. Secondly, I have discussed this article by Demiraj with academics from munich also, and they consider it tortured reasoning (Bassania...
  8. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    This is a linguistically meaningless statement. If albanians had been in this region before the romans then the toponym Dyrrachium would be in their lexicon, and therefore the /ki/ in dyrrakio- would become /q/ as it became so in Albanian. keq, a pre latin word. If "latin influence" was...
  9. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    Bardhyl Demiraj is 100% wrong about Bassania being the origin of Pëdhanë. There is no case and its an embarrassment from him that he argued this.
  10. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    Norbert Jokl is correct, these toponyms represent a western Dalmatian latin variety spoken in Prevalitana, that does not match Proto-Albanian. Cabej's attempt is a textbook example of motivated reasoning. Apparently this is a "dialectal feature of northeastern gheg" that for some reason only...
  11. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    >there's no study which supports such settlements >you shouldn't post as a counter-reply some source "There's no study which supports your position but if there is you shouldn't post it because it will prove me wrong" What a ridiculous and desperate thing to think, let alone write out. Sorry...
  12. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    What are you talking about, I have never seen that article or book. I got it from "byzantins, slaves et autochtones" Was this supposed to be your "gotcha" clapback moment..
  13. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    The Channelled ware and Low tumuli dented ware cultures appear in Dardania in the iron age, and they are most definitely not Illyrian in origin. Channelled ware penetrates all the way into Albania. Then Brnjica culture which also is within Dardania that is a non-Illyrian culture, most probably...
  14. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    The extent of Albanian's relationship to Messapic cannot be deployed only to push for an Illyrian origin for Albanian as it doesn't necessarily say what you think it says. Albanian has linguistic relationships to other languages and language groups that are also part of the equation in...
  15. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    I have never claimed anywhere ever that proto-Albanians were 90% E-V13. This is a textbook strawman. J2b-l283s diversity is all good and well but ultimately insofar as it belongs tothe mat/dibër/mirditë cluster according to Rrenjet, it cannot be a candidate for having spoken proto-Albanian but...
  16. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    There are plenty of toponyms and anthropnyms over the years that have been pointed to as having Albanian or Albanoid features. Some for example: Dacian. Amalusta [camomile] Albanian. Ambël [sweet] Dacian. Drubetis [placename] Albanian. Dru [wood] Dacian. Zermisirga [placename] Albanian...
  17. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    Dimale also appears exactly near the zone of a channelled ware intrusion in Albania, so is it again a Daco-Thracian linguistic influence? Or is it just a pan-paleobalkan phenomena that is not specifically Albanian but appears also among Dacians (Dacia Maluensis) and Lithuanians, Latvians, etc...
  18. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    Taulanti is the name of an Illyrian tribe in a region where we know there were intrusive channelled ware incursions, so firstly we do not know for sure if this name has a proper Illyrian etymological origin or if it was brought by Thraco-Dacoid channelled ware influences. Compare the cognate of...
  19. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    Mat is recorded for the first time in the 400s AD, which is the post-roman era and therefore not an argument for Illyrian continuity. Another problem with Mat is that it shows explicitly un-Illyrian phonetic development, meaning, it fits for proto-Albanian but not for Illyrian. We see this...
  20. Johane Derite

    E-V13 Frequencies and New Data

    We know that proto-Albanian was not spoken around the mat/dibër/mirditë cluster from multiple lines of evidence, so proto-Albanian cannot have extended from Mirdita to Dardania until the migration from Dardania/Moesia came to Mirdita/Albania and proto-Albanians began to spread their linguistic...
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