I would say that Serbs are being pulled away from Croats because of Albanian influence. Same for Montenegrin's. Its pretty obvious.
They assimilated Albanians a lot in last 1000 years in various historical events.
South Serbs and Montenegrins are heavy Albanian admixed, Y-DNA and autosomal wise.
Mine is 19.06, average Kosovars should be even lower.
Regarding "Based on current data, it seems that the two main components in all Balkan populations are proto-Slavic and Paleo-Balkanic." i absolutely agree here. South Slavs are like 50 % Paleo-Balkan and 50 % East Europe.
Thats why i like...
Regarding Etruscan 700 BCE sample which was expansion of Dalmatian 1700 BCE sample. So, If Dalmatian sample is really Indo-European expansion and if Etruscans were pre-IE population its possible that at this period of 700 BCE Etruscans already mixed with Indo-Europeans and that this sample does...
Dear Jovialis, I3313 is female. She was from period of 1500 - 900 BCE in Dalmatia. I doubt that any researcher who is serious enough would classify these samples as Illyrian. They were too early to be Illyrians as we know them. She was probably closer to 1500 BCE then to 900 BCE. However these...
There is all the evidence you want. Behind my opinions is years of research and reading about this issue we are debating here.
Its you who disagreed with me for some reason which is kinda obvious and if you have a problem with accepting genetic data then i am not sure that this is real hobby or...
Looks like you have a problem accepting that Italians are autosomally all over the place and that North Italians are quite far away from Greeks, South Italians and Albanians. This would be like saying South Italians are far away from Croatian l14331 sample and from North Italians because of...
Ashkenazi i mentioned only because they were marked on modern populations map. I was speaking for East Mediterranean genetics as i also said in previous post. That still does not explain what pulls south Italians and Greeks to East Mediterranean clusters. Why Lebanese match Cypriot Greeks at...
What is pushing South Italians and Central Greeks into Ashkenazi cluster? I think actual Phoenician genetics are hidden here and might me main reason why are Greeks and South Italians, Abruzzo Italians etc pushed toward these East Mediterranean clusters. Only North Italians are somewhat close to...
Of course Angela and i dont say you or anyone have any personal interes in this. Its simply matter of finding truth since for sure in future when we will have ancient results we will know but until then there is some room and data that opens door for speculations. Anyways i agree that Slavic...
Yeah, its ungrateful to yet give any conclusions but i might try. This GD is just relative distance calculated by some formula according to shared DNA. Therefore GD 5 does not have to be same distance on mytrueancestry and on Gedmatch. However there is quite a few modal Italian groups in...
Angela matches him at GD 12.5 and she is top match. Therefore i doubt that anyone matches him much closer then 12.5, while that is not really close, i would consider that mid to far match.
Simply noone matches this sample under GD 10 which can be considered a borderline of close match.
Sent...
This site is 100% legit, its simple genetic distance from modern populations with ancient ones. You even have tools in their website so you can check genome yourself and see exactly on what chromosome you match some sample. Also they did it in average so you can see more or less what are...
Yeah, thanks for sharing Angela! So you are TOP match vs this Dalmatian Illyrian from 1600 BCE and yet pretty far away. You match him at GD 12.5 while typical for Albanians is GD 14-16.
This means that you are his closest match in entire database. I think this alone proves that being close to...
According to mytrueancestry which manages plenty of ancient and modern DNA therefore i am pretty confident in them and modern Albanians against ancient samples stand like this:
1. *Byzantine (5.168)
2. *Roman (5.168)
3. Byzantine + Roman (5.168)
4. Byzantine + Gallo-Roman (7.35)
5. Roman...
These calculators can confuse you with their labels of clusters. Mediterranean is much more then what these calculators show you. Geographically Mediterranean is everything in Mediterranean Sea and its shores.
This 1600 BCE Dalmatian sample had significant steppe percentage and typical steppe...
Its probably some kind of Mediterranean genetics that these Proto-IEs didnt have but got later after settling Mediterranean Sea and mixing with natives which actually made Italic tribes, Illyrian tribes, and Greek tribes.
That is why i got Romans so close but Illyrian is so far, because he is...
Yeah i agree with everything you said just i used term Pelasgian as label to older pre-IE population. Not necessarily pelasgians from Greece and Albania who are real Pelasgians actually.
Pelasgian is just term Greeks used to describe natives and pre-Greek populations. I used same term for...
I dont think it has anything with Slavic admixture, i believe Albanians are far from Bronze Age Dalmatian because he was still not real Illyrian. He was more of a proto-IE. Therefore that is why he is so much northeast shifted. Towards Ukraine, etc.. These Bronze Age proto-IEs later mixed with...
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