Well, there are also Vlachs who have been assimilated into Albanians so EV-13 could be a Vlah Y-DNA ? Maybe all these EV-13 Albanians are Albanized Vlachs ? or Albanized Gogs ? Not that I know much about EV-13 Vlachs or how much EV13 they got.
Doesn't mean it was proto-Albanian just because...
So how can all these J2b2-L283 branches come from Bulgaria when they are found in Western Balkans ? How do you explain the similarity in autosomal DNA ? These samples are quite a good match for Albanians. Even some of the Illyrian samples that cluster like Northern Italians come out like 60%-80%...
With these kind of theories, the only one who has nationalistic theories is you. There is nothing that suggests that proto-Albanians were supposedly never coastal people. Might of been driven away from the coast after Roman occupation, Albania with it's mountain terrain would be favorable for...
I think you misunderstood my post. I did not say Cinamak wasn't Glasinac-Mati but that it is Glasinac-Mati together with 'Rrafshi i Dukagjinit' , the pushing out part I was referring to the claim made in his post that the Autariate had pushed out the Dardanians supposedly out of the pester since...
He said there were some Proto-Thracians that had spread from the Steppes and also touched the Western Balkans but he said most who settled Western Balkans were Illyrians anyway. I thought maybe some Thracians were responsible for spreading this type of Channelled ware culture or the elements in...
Coon on his work on Albanians 'Mountains of Giants' claims proto-Thracians/Dacians from the Steppes settled Western Balkans too. But he considered Albanians as Glasinac-Mati and Hallstatt derived. And considered Illyrians to be of Hallstatt and Glasinac culture. But he also noticed some Thracian...
Serbs can be factual and objective when they are not driven by nationalism.
I obviously admit that I don't know much about this topic or these cultures which I will read more about and learn but how do we define what was the core ? Based on the map, Channeled Ware seems to of also touched...
OK. I understand now that you explained it better. Maybe I should of read first. I will read more about this because obviously I don't know everything about this or that much at all. But he is saying it received Greek influence in classical antiquity ?
That's what I said ? He was talking to me and not you. I responded to him by saying just because I quote wiki doesn't mean I trust what it says. And you're the one who is quoting Serbs.
Where is the evidence that Channeled-Ware was it's core ? Different cultures emerged because different...
Author: Milos Jevtic
The text proves absolutely nothing bro. Just people who have an agenda to claim that Kosova was inhabited by Thracians and not Illyrians. Some proto-Thracians/Dacians probably did spread out there obviously and brought some cultures just like Illyrians.
That's what I'm saying :laughing:. 'Rrafshi i Dukagjinit' was Illyrian territory and Glasinac-Mati culture. I don't trust everything wiki says. I know how wiki works and how nonsense it can be.
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Why would you use some Albanian medieval and Ottoman cluster and not modern Albanian ? It's obvious these clustering are of bottle neck effects and it's obvious Illyrian samples match Albanians better. Thracians clustering like Greeks/Albanians is just genetic similarity to Illyrians , Greeks...
I am not saying the Dardani did not have Thracian influence, which is very possible. Though it does not seem that 'Rrafshi i Dukagjinit' has ever been some kind of Thracian territory which is actually historically the core territory of Albanians within Kosovo itself. Peak of Thracian / Dacian...
Kosovo area, especially Rrafshi i Dukagjinit / Western Kosovo (where there lived historically an Albanian population and which is actually the area that gained an Albanian majority first during the Ottoman period) was without a doubt Glasinac-Mati culture and similar to the population in...
Could be some Thracian influence, as Thracians and Dacians lived in Eastern Dardania, and there were even Dacian towns in Dardania for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quemedava , the Moesi were also Daco-Thracian tribe.
Dardania too seems to of been Glasinac-Mati.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kukës
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardani
Kukes is like only 30km away from Western Kosovo
Samples found in Kukes are definitely some kind of Proto-Dardanians or related tribes and was even within Dardanian territorial area or close by. Not sure about supposedly Glasinac-Mati pushing them out since Dardanians were eventually of that culture. In my honest opinion, That's just an...
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