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We cannot determine that the migration from Illyrian to Messapian was an one time event. It could have been waves, having similar languages.

Its a very interesting combination. A probable migration of Illyrians of probably todays Montenegro in Puglia (Messapians), shifting north (Krk) and south (Vlore) and later on being members of the Roman army (France). Quite a history

And what is Brumi theory? What's Riverman theory? What's PaleoSomething theory? Who can make a summary of these theories, in a short version, chatGPT format, if possible/ Thanks

What theory are you implying? EV-13 being all over the Balkans is a very complicated discussion that can;t be advanced by 6 skeletons. If Dacians = EV-13 = Proto-Albanians, then we can say easily that the main Survivors of 3000 years of Paleo Balkans history are the proto-Albanians, today...

Are you basically saying that Dacians were the proto-Albanians?

Basically, the same level of EV-13 is still present in Hungary, so nothing new in the discussion. 9-12%, 17 centuries ago, and 10% now.

Who told you where is the most likely proto-Albanian area? We have Greeks that use J2a as the only source of continuity with just 10% of modern population.

I asked ChatGpt and it does not say that. I focuses on genetic mixing and on the fact that people married cousins all over the place, a unique feature of the Aegean Greeks. I suppose marrying cousins is still a practice in Greece. Here are the key points from the article in simpler terms...

What is the problem with the main roots of Albanians?

So few discussions, in such an important paper... Such a huge genetic mixing and different ancestral sources, and still no one cares. While in the albanian threads, there are hundreds of postings everytime

What do you mean? Skourtanioti et al 2023 did not focus on the continuity of modern greek population, but mostly on the discontinuity of the ancient greek population.

Yes, EV-13 is very important in Albanians, as it is in the Greeks (probably of Albanian origin). Nevertheless, Albanians comprise the real Paleo-Balcanic groups. Having more than 20% of the modern population of J2b haplogroup is clearly a great link to Illyrians. It's a pitty that Illyrians...

Dorians and Myceneans were not going North!

I don't see why the personal animosity! We have the abstract and the poster of a huge study, which has presented only 12% of its sample! The researchers presented their main findings and conclusions. One the other side you make your conclusions not based on the DNA studies. We have not seen...

Let's focus on the paper! R-Z2103 is not the only subclade that is present in the Kamenice Tumulus. The main advantage of this study is that we will know the composition of the biggest tumulus in Albania, having around 600-700 individuals. Every other study of the region will compare their...

Its still too early to analyze the specific subclades. There will be 200 individuals in the final study, and the conclusions of the last abstract are based on the full sample. The researchers have made their conclusions and they have the final say. We are reading their conclusions and let's...

"Kamenice samples cluster on PCA closely with BA samples of South Croatia, Montenegro, N. Macedonia and Albania" "Little shift from Kamenice to modern Albanians" "FITS WITHIN GENETIC CONTINUITY OVER 2000 YEARS FROM NORTHERN AEGEAN TO EASTERN ADRIATIC" So, proto-south Illyrians...

Some suggestions: In Lunik/Junik MENKU Dejan, son of Menku Mihail, son of Menku Menku son of Dimitri Menku Siromah Pepa, son of Menku Menku, Menkshi, etc, should be considered as Albanian. You may contact Mihalis Ntinopoulous for a better explanation. There is a huge presence of Menku in the...

"Our results indicate that populations from Albania, the northern Aegean and Dalmatia form a joint cluster, regarding the Neolithis Caucasus-like gene flow, but also from further inland Balkans in terms of hunter-gatherer ancestry". "We identified the biological relatedness up to 10th degree...

I have to add the continuity of J2b too, from Velika Gruda and Cinamak to the center of Athens.