I've just noticed that FTDNA updated my Y haplogroup to a new subclade called G-FT369640 (supposedly formed about 1,100 BCE) and there seems to be another sample under that label (of unkonwn origin). Mine paternal line comes from Salamanca (Western spain by the Portuguese border)...
It seems that FTDNA has finally recognized both L3f1b6 and L31fb7 branches:
https://discover.familytreedna.com/mtdna/L3f1b6/story with 4 Spanish and 1 Portuguese samples together with other 3 of unknown origin
https://discover.familytreedna.com/mtdna/L3f1b7/story with 3 USA, 2 French, and 1...
YFull has recently labelled as L3f1b7 a new European branch at L3f1b tree. It seems to very very old (10600 ybp, TMRCA 1550 ybp). I'm sorry I'm not allowed to insert the link.
Meanwhile L3f1b6 seems to increase its number of samples of Iberian origin both at YFull and at Ian Logan's website.
Thanks again kingjohn
I just checked at YFull (too fastly) for some of the L3 haplogroups from the recent paper I tried to share a few days ago and found at least 4 fully Iberian L branches: L1b1a6a, L1b1a6e, L1b1a6f, and L3d1b3a2a
Thank you for the info (I'm not allowed to quote your message), very interesting to see ancient L3 samples outside Africa.
By the way, YFull has create the L3f1b-a9 subranch with only two samples (both of them of Italian origin, one from Genoa and other from Naples).
Recent paper about sub-Saharan mitochondrial haplogroups outside Africa seems to confirm the arrival of most of them into Iberia in Early Holocene period across the Straight of Gibraltar (Eupedia does not allow me to post links): "Phylogeography of Sub-Saharan Mitochondrial Lineages Outside...
Just in case some one in interested, Ian Logan included one more L3f1b6 sample (it's from Oviedo = Asturias region in NW Spain):
As I am not allowed to include pics nor links, I paste all the samples he considers to be L3f1b6. In total there are 6 from Asturias: a mountainous area in NW Spain...
Thank you moderator for the answer. (Unfortunately I don't have permissions to quote or it fails every time I try).
I fail to understand all what that study claims, it would be wonderful if someone wiser than me would review it and share its opinions.
Here I try to quote two paragraphs from...
A 2019 paper entitled A western route of prehistoric human migration from Africa into the Iberian Peninsula (I cannot add links) stated that there exists evidence of a Sub-Saharan migration into Iberia in a prehistoric period:
As for the timing of that contact it pruposes that the most...
Thank you again Duarte.
Regarding the flags and the provinces they are not nornally added at YFull when a sample from a study is loaded. That happened also with all the L3f1b6 samples until I emailed YFull telling them the countries and provinces (showing them the sources, of course) of all of...
Thank you Duarte for the link to the study.
The extracts above mention five samples from Asturias (=Oviedo Province) but both at Yfull and at Ian Logan's website there are only four from Asturias (in the company of two else from the neighboring province of Leon, mine is one of those two).
L3f1b6 has not been found neither in Brazil nor in Africa, it is only an Iberian haplogroup which seems to have existed there for about 4,700 years.
It seems it is carried by about 1% of the population of Asturias in NW Spain, I don't think 1% of the population of Asturias can descend from the...
All that seems very much the case. According to YFull G-Z5859 formed 3900 ybp and its TMRCA would be 3400 ybp.
As Regio X commented the Jewish branch seems to be of Western Mediterranean origin and possibly not too old (Middle Ages).
The most fascinating stuff for me is how this branch succeeded...
"It seems I was not clear. I was actually referring to G-FGC228 when I wondered about a possible Jewish origin."
As far as I know the parent clades of G-FGC228 did not emerge from the Levant. Their seem to be Neolithic Central European haplogroups of ENF origin which at certain moment moved West...
trying to reply to "Regio X"
Regio X I am replying to myself because an error emerges when I try to reply to your post (maybe because I don't have permissions to reply answers with links?)
The answer is no. I don't have the markers for the "Jewish" branch nor the ones or the North African nor...
Thank you, yes those are the links (I cannot quote your answer because it contains links and I am not allowed to publish links).
It is important to remember that L3f1b is basically a Sub-Saharan clade, not North African. The TMRCA of 4700 years for the fully Iberian L3f1b6 seems to suggest that...
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