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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    too later i think
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    How was probably phenotype of these proto-celts and proto-italics?
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    I'm curious to know what the phenotype of these proto-Celts and proto-Italics was like, would be similar to the people of southern Germany or some other place??
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    Celts and proto-italics had high steppe and low whg?
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    she had contact with tribes with high farmer
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    Yes , celts from south had more contact with ancient tribes with higher farmer , so is normal steppe be lower on them than celts from central and north france
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    R1b-U152 L2*

    Thanks for the answers, one doubt I have, how did the split of the proto Celtics and proto Italics from alps before 1800 bce occur, they were basically the same people? because i know both have same father R-U152 , R-L2 what differentiate them is just language and culture? phenotype probably...
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    R1b-U152 L2*

    R-Z49 is too strong northeast italy but some subclades from R-S8183 do not look like italic , but veneto has a strong conection with R-Z49 , R-S8183 father R-S8172 , but a lot people from north germany and scandinavia test positive to R-Y4353 father from R-S8172
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    I mean celts and proto-italic from alps region in some moment had exactly same phenotype because both son of R-P312 father R-L21, R-U152 ..., all of them had high steppe when these proto italic began to have contact with another ancient tribes with higher farm the things began to change
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    Is basic people coming from north had a higher steppe and south high farmer
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    This is literally impossible , celtic and proto-itallic both had the same ancient father so they had same phenotype , they had a high steppe , celtic and italic is just a culture , language , when these people from alps migrated to northeast italy they got another phenotype because contact with...
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    R1b-U152/S28 : more Gaulish or Roman ?

    Impossible because oldest R-U152 samples was found regions between bohemia , bavaria and alps , this is too older than romans, this clade born in europe central with proto-celtic and italic people , these people later desenvolved celtic and italic languages but was basically same people because...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Some subclades from R-S8183 from maciamos tree dont look like italic
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    yes , i noticed that aswell, this haplo is spread between northeast italy , croatia , slovenia , so what i can say my major haplo is a mix celtic and italic and some moment of history some people from these clades R-U152 and R-L2 coming from alps regions/bavaria/bohemia went to northeast italy...
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    R1b-U152 L2*

    Dorian , i am R-Z49 , R-S8183 , R-S8172 final clade that means my ancient ancestors is only proto-italic or a mix between celts and italics?
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    Where does the Albanian language come from? [VIDEO]

    people with R-Y4353 and R-Y4354 is only descedeants of proto-italics and illyrians or they are a mix between celts R-L2 and italics R-Z49?
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    i thought R-Z49 was celtic , so i am descendeant of only italic people or is a mix of R-L2 celts and later italic people R-Z49?
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    So how R-L2 after become italic or celt? Who was the R-L2?
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Hello i am R-Z49 , R-S8172 my haplo probably come from proto italic people?
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    What is origin R1b-S8172?

    really , is hard to awnser that , ancestors from R-S8172 look too shifted to north maybe it came with suebis , R-Y4353 , R-Y4354 hotzone look like north germany , only explanation i can to say would be maybe suebis or another germanic tribe R-Y4353...
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