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    another non overfit G25 model of mine . try it out :)

    the Boncuklu site is near Konya. i would say it's central turkey, or perhaps eastern western turkey? www.exploreyourdna.com/sample/turkey/zhag there are also the Turkey_AsikliHoyuk_EN_Preceramic samples from a bit more east near Aksaray as i found out now, you can use them instead, although...
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    another non overfit G25 model of mine . try it out :)

    use Boncuklu, it's i believe the only early neolithic anatolian population in the G25 spreadsheet. they are from central anatolia...
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    what are your East Med and West Med component scores from Eurogenes K13 ?

    you can also use Natufian if you want, i updated the post with a table including Natufian as source. in the end all of these populations have a certain overlap. there was also a cline from northwestern anatolia towards southern levant already existing in early neolithic. so the observed shift in...
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    what are your East Med and West Med component scores from Eurogenes K13 ?

    it doesn't really matter how far apart Pinarbasi and neolithic levant are chronologically. fact is, that the earlier neolithic anatolians can be modeled as a mixture of Pinarbasi/Iran_N in the 2019 paper or Pinarbasi/Mesopotamian in the 2022 paper but this doesn't work anymore for the later...
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    another non overfit G25 model of mine . try it out :)

    how does the model change when you replace the anatolian sample from Bursa, with older anatolian neolithic samples?
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    what are your East Med and West Med component scores from Eurogenes K13 ?

    PCA clustering can't be used for ancestry inference. Also, they didn't exclude neolithic caucasus/iranian references. From the 2019 paper: "Ancient Iran/Caucasus populations and contemporary South Asians do not share more alleles with ACF (|D| < 1.3 SE). Likewise, qpAdm modeling suggests that...
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    what are your East Med and West Med component scores from Eurogenes K13 ?

    considering what these papers found, such a model would have to exclude anatolian late neolithic populations from the sources and keep levant neolithic.
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    what are your East Med and West Med component scores from Eurogenes K13 ?

    in this 2019 paper, "Late Pleistocene human genome suggests a local origin for the first farmers of central Anatolia", they find that later neolithic populations from anatolia have to be modeled with a neolithic levant source while this was not the case for the earlier neolithic anatolians. and...
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    what are your East Med and West Med component scores from Eurogenes K13 ?

    if i remember right, it might also additionaly be due to neoltihic levant and neolithic anatolia already both beeing largely dzudzuana derived populations, with dzudzuana beeing a mixture of basal eurasian and westeurasian. and later there was introgression from chg/neolithic iran into both...
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    Genetic study The Roman Military Community as a Melting Pot: Biomolecular Evidence from the Lower Rhine Limes

    Wikipedia suggests Praetorium Agrippinae was primarily a camp for auxiliary units. so these people might be gaulish auxiliaries. still remarkable that we have a greek like individual among them, in one of the most northern roman camps in continental europe. this indicates that in the actual...
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    Ethnic groups of Central Europe 2025

    in your article you want to talk about ancestry, but those categories are mostly about nationalities. you look at them as language groups and add ethnic categories in there. to my knowledge there isn't a "mixed race" category in any of these countries. of course, you just want to make an...
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    Who are Turks closest to?

    a decision on this based on genetics doesn't make sense. it's like asking if poles with a polish genetical profile are germans. the answer would be no because poland is geographically and culturally not defined as part of germany. if turkey was geographically located in europe they would be...
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    Ethnic groups of Central Europe 2025

    it's a weird mixture of numbers since all those countries have different systems to categorize their populations and so they are not comparable. in german speaking countries the definition of migration background differs a lot. for example in germany people who have at least one parent who was...
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    Iosif Lazaridis: Proto-Indo-Europeans had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermed‌iate skin tone

    i suggest you look up Vitruvius's post again to which i replied. my point was not to talk about absolute distances but relative ones compared to what other populations score. you're right there are no modern populations that are really close to bronze age anatolians but that wasn't my point. why...
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    Iosif Lazaridis: Proto-Indo-Europeans had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermed‌iate skin tone

    the actual distance is 0.05-0.06 comparable to all the other distances shown. he just cut it off after the first 5 displayed populations to make his point.
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    Iosif Lazaridis: Proto-Indo-Europeans had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermed‌iate skin tone

    so as soon as not everyone looks like Kimi Reikkonen this guy passes very easily. why don't you apply the same logic to near eastern pops? what the about the other guy? does he also pass very easily in central europe but not at all in near east?
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    Iosif Lazaridis: Proto-Indo-Europeans had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermed‌iate skin tone

    you said yourself that that other guy could "easily" pass in central europe. imo he could pass there, not easily but he could. and he also passes in near east easier than in central europe. we probably have to agree to disagree here.
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    Iosif Lazaridis: Proto-Indo-Europeans had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermed‌iate skin tone

    we can also cherry pick crowd pictures. the point is not to depict armenians as something they are not but to show very clear overlap with surrounding populations. i've met kurds and iraqis. they often have light skin if not tanned and could fit in these crowds easily. i still believe...
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    Iosif Lazaridis: Proto-Indo-Europeans had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermed‌iate skin tone

    genetically speaking it does make sense because, well, that's just the way it is. the argument about haplos is kind of irrelevant.
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    Iosif Lazaridis: Proto-Indo-Europeans had dark hair, brown eyes, and an intermed‌iate skin tone

    do Caucasians, i assume you mean georgians and armenians, only have a resemblance with europeans but not with levantines arabs or iranians? do europeans themselves not resemble these people somewhat already? it's completely wrong to say they would have resembled europeans but not others. btw...
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