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For what I know, the non included samples are those for which the age estimation was not finished when the last update (8.09) was completed. Those which are now ready will be included with the current update and will get their final position on the tree. Most of the new samples added during the...

Hi Olyve, from what I know the region called Epirus - including the mountains of Suli - was settled long before the 16th century. Among Albanians (and I do not know if the same logic would apply in your case), the lastname would correspond to your father's name or clan name. When someone's...

I know that nothing was published about it on their site. I wrote that because the decrease affected many other subclades (under R1a and R1b as well). I do not think that only newly added samples justify such a generalized decrease. If you look at R-L1029 its forming age dropped by 600 years...

It seems that you were right Çerç. With the last update, I-Y3120 TMRCA decreased to 1800 ybp. It might the result of a change in the computation method since several other subclades seem also concerned.

R1a-CTS1211 > CTS8816 > Y2902 > YP3994 in Albania and in the Balkans My fatherline has been present in Gjirokastër during at least two centuries (I need to do some research in the ottoman defters to go further back in time). It is now present in various city districts and we have no...

Based on current estimates our lineages are 4200 years distant from each other if you are confirmed YP321. I guess this is quite distant in time (although the geographical distance is much smaller). There are several distinct lineages under CTS1211 present in Albania. I assume it is the same for...

Thanks Trojet. Yfull changed the TMRCA of R-Y2902 from 2400 ybp to 2000 ybp 4 months ago. And now they reversed it with no clear reason. In FTDNA's R1a-Y1392 Project they write that the branch's age is around 2500 years (and they have more subclades and samples than yfull, but perhaps they...

With the last update a few days ago, R-Y2902's TMRCA jumped 500 years in the past (without addition of a significant number of new samples, just based upon R-Y3226's TMRCA). It is now 2500 ybp. Does anyone understand why ?

It is here. I hope it works: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/39919-Potential-R1a-M458-sample-discovered-in-Bronze-Age-South-West-Germany?highlight=bronze+age+R1a+M458

yDNA matches are a good and efficient way to answer the "question" raised in this thread. There are, I believe, some examples of Albanian-Sicilian subclades on yfull which could prove the link between Arbëreshë and modern Albanians. By the way, I also have a yDNA match in Palermo (although he...

As it is labelled MX265, isn’t it the brand new R1a-M458 sample from iron age southern Germany. Dibran recently started a thread about it. I am quoting: « One sample on a upcoming paper on social and genetic structure of Late Neolithic Switzerland may belong to R1a-M458 pending further...

Perhaps it is not the right place to ask (since this thread is supposed to be about Arbereshë), but I found your question ("Is that correct for Albania as well?") interesting and would like to check and compare the data. Do you know/remember any scientific paper (or a thread) with detailed data...

R1a-CTS1211 > CTS8816 > Y2902 > YP3994 in Albania and in the Balkans Thanks Dibran. I also thought that this had to do with new samples and the average age. I have seen your L-1029's age changing a bit over the last months and I would also expect the estimation to change +/- 50/100...

Arbereshë also left "en mass" from Morea (Peloponese). They still sing a beautiful song about it in Albanian. But I guess the scenario was different in Greece for some unknown reason... As for the rest of your story, could you please provide some historical sources for your other facts ? I have...

That might be the reason. Either those samples were not exclusively roman (autosomally speaking) or they share some older admixture with Balkanic antic peoples (which is labelled Roman given the limited number of balkanic samples). But this is just a hypothesis. Sent from my iPhone using...

On Yfull R-Y2902's TMRCA was recently reduced from 2400 to 2000. Can someone explain what has changed in their age estimation method ? There must be a reason but I do not understand it since the figures given by some of its subclades are older than 2000.

I get a huge amount of Roman as well. One reason could be that other romanized populations are labelled as romans. For example the samples from Szolad. I do not know if you match them ? Another reason could be the fact that there are much more ancient roman samples tested than ancient samples...

So the true Albanians left to Italy (among others) before 1500 and were replaced after 1500 ? By whom ? Are you serious ? Have you read the paper before posting ? Isn't it much more rational that the small group of Arbëresh intermixed to some extent with the local populations (or simply absorbed...

I do not understand it either. In the breakdown, I have almost two times more Illyrian than Thracian but Illyrians do not even appear among my closest ancient populations.

These words also exist in albanian: Gardh = fence Stol = bench