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Kukes is a J-L283 stronghold for some reason.

Because the way you speak makes me believe that you view all of these tribes as undoubtably all sharing significant majorities of J-L283 with your only perception of other haplogroups being there, is that you perceive them as being outliers rather then there existing other haplogroup tribes like...

So I'm supposed to recognize your improper use of grammar and punctuation? You do realize your original statement is to be interpreted exactly according to my response, as per the rules of the English language. If English is not your first language then that's fine, but don't pretend like I'm...

Are you claiming that all of the Illyrian tribes had J-L283 as their predominate haplogroup? The modern and ancient haplogroups samples found in the Western Balkans make up a large amount of various haplogroups that indicate settlement by various haplogroups prior to the R1a invasions, not just...

I'm tired of us using the vague term Illyrian. "The name "Illyrians", as applied by the ancient Greeks to their northern neighbors, may have referred to a broad, ill-defined group of peoples. The Illyrian tribes never collectively identified as "Illyrians", and it is unlikely that they used...

Any new major discoveries gents?

There is a lot of claiming J-l283 as proto-Illyrian when we have so few ancient samples. What is the logic behind this assumption? Is it simply because it's heavily present in modern Albania? Couldn't this just be a mountainous refuge region where groups got pushed back by the R1a?

Ya, I'm of the opinion that the heavy English and South Western German samples are roman mediated migration along the border urban centers, rather than Celtic expansion theories. But I also believe that the amount in these areas is likely very significant, even when accounting for the...

Commenting to bump this thread, as these haplogroups are interesting and rarely spoken about.

Are there any studies that have shown the percents of J-L283 among the various tribes? I'm trying to find which tribe(or tribes) has the highest percent.

Does anyone know what Albanian tribes have the largest percent of J-L283?

Is this proven by direct descendant DNA testing? like the House of Lubomirski was proven to be J-L283 via a family tree direct descendent. Or is this jsut a theory based on various men of similar surname or claimed descendence?

The modern dispersion does appear to correlate with the Roman Borders and settlements along the Rhein River, with a large amount of samples being found there.

From what I understand, the "Illyrian" term is used to describe the many tribes that existed within the western Balkan region. However, there have been many ancient samples within the region found with different haplogroups other than J-L283. I believe there were also ancient E-V13 and R1B...

Yes, I was talking about the Nuragics. They make up a decent amount of the old samples, but I haven't seen much explanation of how they got there in many of the primary J-L283 theories. Perhaps, they follow a similar principle to the higher rates of J-L283 in mountainous regions. The island...

To increase your hope of us potentially finding alien life one day, I suggest everyone read the Miller-Urey Experiment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

Are these samples from a new study?

What's the theory behind the ancient Cagliari Sardinian samples? How did they get there?

I've been gone for a couple months, have there been any breakthroughs or is it still the same speculations? :/

R1b appears to correlate with red hair so you would have to first prove it to be the dominant Y DNA of the Dacians to even somewhat support the Roman stories. Also, the present population of red hair in Europe is not significant to any degree in the assumed Dacian region relative to other areas...