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This suposed relatedness is not very expressive genetically , it is more about similar ratio of farmer , steppe and whg by chance between iberians, north italians and and ancient illyrians . North italians are the moat similar with a ratio of around 34 - 40% steppe, 3 - 10% whg and around 60%...

It is a shame americans have to choose between these two guys, the diference to a one party system is mostly a matter of apearances really.I would have liked to see Dwayne the Rock Johnson as the leader of the free world, he seems like a capable man. Mainly with a big gun in his hands.

My index finger is quute a bit longer, i read somewhere it also correlates with lesser odds of male pattern baldness.

What is Volga-Karma Neo? It surely isn't a standart reference for western steppe herderer. If so the casenovele etruscan CSN004 should be scoring around 26% sredny stog related ancestry.

Why doesn't the croosbred with a tiger father have a tiger face then? Because how your face looks is overwhelmingly not determined by the y chromossome that is.

I guess yamnaya is the closest thing to sredny stog then , that is if cetina males can't be model with corded ware / beaker (can they?), but personally i think L283 was pre yamnaya indo european. I remember the mycenean J-L283s were modeled as either cetina + minoan/greece neolithic or cze...

If J-L283 was among steppe yamnaya shouldn't it have been found already? They are almost all R-Z2103 , I2a2 or J1.

If by nordic we mean depigmented mediterraneans I2a and G2a are the nordic haplogroups (globular amphorae, scandinavian stone age), R1s were the swarthy hooked noosed Iranid-CM bunch that recognised how pretty the farmer women were and selected for what in their eyes were the most exotic/lighter...

I recently took a quick look at there and saw a syrian girl posting her autossomal results, cool polite and very respectful girl. First coment was from a german blob (Rottae?) He comented as following: " No WHG and steppe / euro HG, sorry but i can't consider you human." Like WTF. These kinds of...

It makes no sense being resented when actually clearly still showplaing beahvior similar to that a member of the low brow forum that just fired your indignation, shows you are in the same place at heart and did not learn from the mistake. The apricity is simply a hub for trolls and adicts in...

It should be viewed with more scrutiny that a "scientist researcher" is able to publish a paper with such nonsense as "J2(30.000 years old stuff)as a phoenician(1.000 BC folk)-associeted Y -DNA". The field of archeogentics is really still the trashbin of natural sciences.

I find myself in this exact situation, as a brazilian under J-L283, I assume my ancestor was portuguese, 99% odds of it but who knows, maybe a italian, french or flemish merchant from madeira or the azores, or even one of the few non iberian europeans we had around in colonial times.

E-V13 and J2b-L283 are both more frequent in northwestern/ western iberia, as well as I1 , I theorise the visigoths and the suebians have something to do with this.

E-V13 is more frquent in western Iberia, peaking in Asturias if my memory doesn't fail me.

Ohh I remember this one from anthrogenica. Another western slavic L283 ancient sample, at the time i expected it to be at least Z1043 like KRA010.

Hello , 2 new ancient J2b-L283 samples for you guys: They are father and son, from around the year 428 - 634 AD. IDs : 2423-US118 and 2419-US484(?) (ItalicMedit /TSI autossomal profile) both are J2b-L283-Y51320 and in https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/J-Y51320/tree TMRCA estimated 550 BCE...

Ossetians are linguistic and genetic descendants of the Alans, a iranic people. Their language is the most similar surviving language to that of the ancient scythians...

Yes , I know , i mean what were them in a genetic sense, east eurasians?

What was ASI? Does it have east asian affinities? I imagine it was largely related to ongee, but with genetic drift?

Interesting , Joubert is downstream of J2b-Z1043.