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    Debate need clarification on the topic of Italian population genetics and its amateur and academic treatment

    Are there any studies about genetics of the French in the Nice and Menton general areas too?
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    Debate need clarification on the topic of Italian population genetics and its amateur and academic treatment

    Roman openness and geography work both ways though: Italy northernmost parts may be regarded as geographical Central Europe but the OP is rightly complaining that on these forums those with an anti-italian agenda use geography EXCLUSIVELY to explain Levantine or NA influences, when in fact...
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    Genetic study The Picenes and the Genetic Landscape of Central Adriatic Italy in the Iron Age.

    https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/archaeologists-discovered-2-700-old-140000485.html Let's hope some new aDNA is on its way.
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    Debate need clarification on the topic of Italian population genetics and its amateur and academic treatment

    Yeah, we are lucky that this forum is an oasis in that sense! That's probably because there are a lot of very knowledgeable people here, both at history and genetics, and trolls get caught at once.
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    Debate need clarification on the topic of Italian population genetics and its amateur and academic treatment

    I agree in whole with your general point, if I may I would just add that, very oddly, some of "those who have a bone to pick with the Italian sense of identity and the idiots that are naive enough to believe them" are indeed Italian themselves. That's a curious phenomenon I have observed on...
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    Debate need clarification on the topic of Italian population genetics and its amateur and academic treatment

    If you could please refer me to graphics or plots indicating this, that would be great. Not to doubt what you say, I just find this subject matter interesting, thanks.
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    Debate need clarification on the topic of Italian population genetics and its amateur and academic treatment

    Nonetheless as a frequent visitor of Aosta Valley myself I can confirm that the local people in this region form much more of a continuum with their Northern Italian neighbors than those in other regions with significant linguistic minorities (such as f.e. Alto Adige). Even the ones speaking...
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    adnaxp: Hair, skin, eye color for ancient samples (AADR-based)

    Is that the same Etruscan sample that had only one light eyed individual among a sizeable group while the neighbouring and genetically almost identical Picenes where overwhelmingly light-eyed? Or is that a new sample? Ancient DNA phenotypical results are being very curious. Nonetheless interesting.
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    adnaxp: Hair, skin, eye color for ancient samples (AADR-based)

    French will be French :p On a serious note I'm surprised how familiar (they think) they were with Italian regions. Probably a view from Italians of the French wouldn't have been more flattering but it's hard to imagine that Medieval Italians would have been able to provide different characters...
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    adnaxp: Hair, skin, eye color for ancient samples (AADR-based)

    5/17 "blondes" in the Greek Anatolian sample looks even more curious.
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    Of perceptions and self-perceptions

    She doesn't strike me as so specifically Italian-looking honestly, I'd guess more Cyprus or that general area. Maybe she could pass (the make-up helps of course) but as she would maybe pass in Italy she would pass anywhere else in Southern Europe too. She might remind a little bit of Luisa...
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    Average Percentages of WHG, ENF, and ESH Ancestry in Modern Europeans

    Are the Uralic and CHG components the only extra components among modern Europeans, other than EEF, WHG and Steppe?
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    New Felsina Etruscan Paper by Zaro et alia 2024

    What an incredibly dumb and irrelevant comment, moreover considering the most extreme geographical points of the two countries. Did you know that Como si closer to Copenhagen than to Palermo? What is that supposed to mean in genetics term? Are you suggesting that NW Iranians are genetically...
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    Etruscan DNA: Tarquinia, ninth–seventh century BC, central Italy

    It's surprising the diversity in such a small sample considering there's also a Northern European/Baltic like individual.
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    Etruscan DNA: Tarquinia, ninth–seventh century BC, central Italy

    That contradicts a previous study with abnormally low rates of blue eyes for Etruscans compared to other IA and modern Italians.
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    The Basques were one of the examples I had in mind exactly, as they have such high level of WHG although they aren't a northen population though very much western. If I had to give labels (shaky as they are) I'd assume the "northern" label goes to the Steppe component if anything. Thanks for...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    Pax Augusta, please help me understand. WHG was the main ancestral component of most of Europe from Scandinavia to southern Iberia at some point so there's nothing inherently "northern" in that (surely not phenotypically, going by the facial reconstruction of WHG). It just happens that modern...
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    Genetic study Population changes in northern Italy from the Iron Age to Modern Times

    Who were these C./N. European like outliers in your opinion? We already know with a good degree of certainty that the aegean/caucasian signal was from people living further south in the peninsula (originally from Greece or Anatolia).
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